Would someone please check my System check for me?

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  1. devilmaycry1979
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    I used Mauifrog's guide over at Wii-Hacks.com.​
    Is this outdated?:unsure:
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
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  2. Arras

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    I'm not much of an expert, but it looks good to me.
     
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    K?...
    Sorry about the double spoilers..I dont think my browser and the site get along when posting spoilers..
     
  4. Lacius

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    It looks fine. You don't need to do anything.
    If it were my Wii, I would reinstall clean versions of IOS9 and IOS36.
     
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    The latest version of hbc is 1.1.2, and why do you have hacked ios's? There's a few IOS's on there that you don't need: [all stubs], 11, 16, 20, 40, [41-48 - korean ios's], 50, 70, 80, 90.

    If it was my Wii I'd reinstall clean IOS's of all your hacked ones.
     
  6. Lacius

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    Those are likely there for brick protection (e.g. the accidental installation of a different system menu).
     
  7. devilmaycry1979
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    yeah its brick protection, and Im glad I had it. I used this guide#mce_temp_url#
    Doing research..
    Oh research..:wacko:
     
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    Using that guide, your Wii is pretty much set up for anything (except GC games) and I've used it on about a dozen plus Wii.
     
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    Looks good, but I would update d2x to v10, it should improve compatibility with newer games.
     
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    It's a great setup, lots of brick protection. You don't need to install clean versions of IOS9 and IOS36, those are there for a reason. I personally set up those cIOS's so I know they are patched correctly.

    Don't update the HBC either. The latest one has bugs.

    If the current d2x versions work fine for you, I suggest you stick with them. Otherwise, update. For some people the latest causes problems, for others it fixes them.
     
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    Update:
    Unfortunately some bugs snuck into the v1.1 release, which are now fixed in v1.2:
    • PAL 50Hz (576i) video mode now works properly
    • BootMii/boot2 can be installed again on newer Wiis
    • Icons load again in The Homebrew Channel
    Sorry for the inconvenience.
    1.1 has bugs, what bugs does 1.2 have?
     
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    Sorry for the double post, just wanting to give feedback on the guide used.
    Okay, so when I opened that page for the first time, I read up to this line, and then dismissed the whole guide:

    Warning: Never Ever Ever Update Your Wii From Nintendo

    The issue is that it's at odds with every other message. The HBC/Hackmii warns NOT to update the wii through any other means than the official update, and http://wiibrew.org/ has this warning on the top of every page:

    WiiBrew recommends that you run the latest version of the HackMii Installer and then optionally update your Wii to 4.3 using Nintendo's official updater.
    Only update using the official update procedure. Downgrading or installing patched updates is unsupported, dangerous, and may permanently brick your Wii.

    The only reason not to do this is if your Wii is region-changed Korean (but if that's the case then you have already hacked it), or if your Wii isn't connected to the internet. Furthermore the HBC also warns against installing hacked IOS's - which they refer to as "failpacks" - which is exactly what this guide does.

    But if I wanted to update my Wii, should I use one of those many homebrew update packs?
    No, you should not. There are risks, and some packs are made of fail. Just update through the official means if you really want to.

    The installer tells me that it couldn't find a vulnerable IOS or something? What's that about?
    The HackMii installer is the only program that can automatically make non-trivial system modifications on all Wiis. It has several different code paths (aka exploits) that it uses to do this; on any given Wii, the installer will scan your system to find the most appropriate one to use (generally, the most stable or least invasive one).

    If you have recently installed an official update, this may mean that all of our existing exploits have been patched; in this case, please wait patiently for us to update the installer.

    In most cases, however, this means you have installed some sort of "mod pack" (we refer to those as "failpack") which leaves your system in a damaged state that interferes with our system scan. In particular, "cIOSCORP" is known to be problematic because some idiot decided it would be smart to take some old version of IOS, change the version number, and overwrite all other IOSes. Other failpacks are less destructive, but that still means its not a good idea to use them.

    You're basically on your own, for the sake of your Wii: get rid of the failpack.

    QUOTE: <FenrirWolf> It refuses to run on those IOS's because the earlier versions of cIOScorp scooped out your Wii's innards and turned them into delicious Scrambled IOS Breakfast™, which confused the crap out of their installer and gave TT all sorts of bizarre errors to scratch their heads over.

    The installer seems to hang, and I can't get past that scam screen. Is this a bug?
    Maybe, but it's more likely that a failpack prevents the installer from working correctly. See above.

    So chapter 1 should start with - Update the Wii through the official update procedure to 4.3, then launch the hackmii installer using your chosen exploit (letterbomb being the easiest).

    Chapter 2 has a section where you can download "IOS Updates" - this is wrong. The only place that you should get your IOS files is 1. through official system updates, or 2. through the NUS Downloader, you shouldn't download them from filesharing sites.

    Further down it gives you filesharing links for system menu 4.1 - again I stress that all official system files for the Wii should be retrieved using NUS Downloader and not filesharing.

    Further down the guide, at the end it says this:

    Warning: It is illegal to obtain/distribute backups of games you do not own. WiiHacks does not support or promote software piracy. Play fair.

    Well I think that warning is kind of redundant considering the fact that sharing Wii system files is also illegal. You don't go pirating software throughout your guide, get to the bottom and then tell people not to do the piracy that you do!

    All in all, it's not a bad guide, however, there is absolutely no reason to have hacked system files on your system, and and absolutely no reason to have IOS's that are stubbed out in the 4.3 update (except of course for your system menu IOS), nor do you need the Korean IOS's, even though they are included with the official 4.3 update. I do not agree with their warning that is opposite to the warning that is given to you by Hackmii/HBC and by wiibrew.org.

    Also, if you really don't want to update using the system update it'd be better to use MMM to update your missing system IOS's, then to download the IOS packs in the guide, 1. it's legal and 2. it's easier and safer.
     
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    Sorry, but you really don't seem to know what you are talking about. You should NOT update to 4.3, it's stupid. You get less brick protection/recovery, the SM tries to brick your Wii everytime you start if you have a region changed Korean Wii (lots of people with them aren't aware of it), you lose region free, and several exploits are blocked. All that with NO benefit. And yet you advise doing it.

    Softmod ANY Wii is the most complete guide available. Where do you think XFlak got most of the setup for ModMii?
     
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    Um, of course you should update to 4.3 using the official updater, and then - if you want to - you can downgrade to 4.1. There is no need to alter any system IOS's, I do recommend installing the base version of IOS36, but besides that your cIOS's have all the "hacked" support you need, hacking system files is unnecessary.

    If you have a korean wii that's region changed, then obviously you shouldn't update it, however that's a specific case of a hacked wii. An unmodified Korean Wii can be hacked on v4.3 like any other, and then downgraded to 4.1, like any other.

    Oh and a guide that uses pirated IOS's that ends with an anti-pirating message is laughable.
     
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    Facepalm. You are such a newbie...
     
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    Facepalm yourself, every other resource echos the same message: only update with the official procedure; don't hack the system IOS's.
     
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    Uh, no it doesn't. Anybody who understands brick protection knows why you would want your System Menu IOS patched.
     
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    Really? Well brick protection relies on something booting prior to the SM, bootmii-boot2 is the best, obviously, and doesn't require any IOS's. Not everyone can use it, but they can use Priiloader, Priiloader doesn't rely on any hacked IOS's:

    priiloader itself needs no hacked ios at all (hell, we recommend using unpatched ios's)​

    There's that consistent message again - same on HBC, on wiibrew, on priiloader - don't hack your system IOS's...
     
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    You are recommending modifying the System Menu, but not the IOS. Real smart. Messing with boot2 is one of the most dangerous things you can do. I recommend Priiloader and Bootmii, but they are certainly more dangerous than patching a SM IOS.

    The IOS loads before the System Menu, that's why it prevents 003 bricks. The patches (which are really just UN-patching it, since it removes Nintendo's patches) allow you to use brick recovery methods that wouldn't normally be available on the later versions.

    What you've been recommending has bricked tons of Wii's. You need to understand how stuff works before suggesting it's safe.

    PS: Quoting Wiibrew and Team Twiizers is the same thing btw.
     
  20. Lacius

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    He doesn't need to install clean versions of IOS9 and IOS36; his setup looks good. Installing clean versions is just what I would do since IOS9 and IOS36 still have the potential to be actively used, and I also see no need in having a patched IOS36 anymore. Correct me if I'm mistaken about IOS36.

    There's no reason to update using the official online updater when things like ModMii exist. None. The only thing it accomplishes over something like ModMii is setting up people with the potential for issues. See JoostinOnline's post for some reasons why.

    The problem is not everyone knows they have a region-changed Korean Wii, and those who do might not understand that later system menu versions are a problem.

    Bootmii is a last line of defense, and not everyone has it installed as boot2. Priiloader also isn't going to help someone if he/she installs a system menu without the appropriate IOS. That's one reason why the SM IOS stubs have been replaced.

    No one is talking about hacking system IOS files (with the exceptions of IOS9, IOS36, and one's present SM IOS). We're talking about replacing stubs with patched IOS files for brick protection.
     
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