Hacking Question Will there be something like dual emunand?

[Draxzelex]

Some games may require a higher firmware version than what you've installed on SysNAND. Theoretically a warmboot method that doesn't involve RCM should be coming for 4.0.1 and below, I think.

As far as I know, no games require higher than 4.1 but you are right. The warmboot works up to 4.1 and is called Deja Vu. However, they believe it has not been patched out on 5.X yet which is the reason they have not released it yet. The reason I say this is because no one has disclosed whatever hacks work or don't work on 5.X yet outside of the Tegra exploit.

That would mean you will lose warmboot when you update the Sysnand from updated emunand. You will have to update at some point since games will require the higher firmware hence the use for an emunand

On SysNAND, you can load a CFW (Atmosphere) that would bypass the firmware check unless part of the game requires certain features of higher firmware

 

[Jeffrey367]

His point is:
You start fresh (not banned or anything)
1. Create Emunand which is not modded and only played retail games
2. Create emunand that is modded and can play backups
3. Play backups on number 2. Keep the console offline.
4. Replace 2 with 1 and go online with 1 to update and play games.
5. Repeat step 3-5

 

[Deleted User]

The idea is to have 2 emunands. 1 isolated, kept as clean and stock as possible, for legit games, and online play.

You have a second emunand then that's isolated separately. All fucky and hacked and homebrewed to The balls. All kept offline.

One Clean Online Nand
One Hacked Offline Nand.

Do long as the hacked nand stays offline and doesn't touch Nintendo's servers, the Clean Online Nand can be used as of its a virgin system. Online functionality and all.

Yes, Op. It's possible, and has been done with other systems like the 360.

Ignore the tards on the attack for this one. They're missing the obvious picture.

 

[gnmmarechal]

Though you can recover your sysnand from backup to avoid bans. How is this any different?

That's.... not how it works. It's not the console that prevents itself from connecting. Reverting to an older backup from before you were banned won't unban you. Bans are handled by the server, as they should be.

TLDR, you get banned from one, you get banned from all of them. So no, you can't restore a SysNAND backup to circumvent bans.

 

[linuxares]

Okey everyone, cooldown. I understand OPs question perfectly, the rest might just have misunderstood the situation.
I did the same on my 3DS for a while, except just one redNAND. I kept my SysNAND untouched for a loooong while. Maybe too long to be honest.

I would/will probably do the same, I rather not touch sysnands if I can. But I actually got two switches, but I will still try to not get the "naughty one" banned. The other will stay original and clean.

 

[jaysea]

Okey everyone, cooldown. I understand OPs question perfectly, the rest might just have misunderstood the situation.
I did the same on my 3DS for a while, except just one redNAND. I kept my SysNAND untouched for a loooong while. Maybe too long to be honest.

I would/will probably do the same, I rather not touch sysnands if I can. But I actually got two switches, but I will still try to not get the "naughty one" banned. The other will stay original and clean.

True but since sysnand cannot connect since it has low fw, we will need a second emunand for the ‘legal’ stuff.

 

[linuxares]

True but since sysnand cannot connect since it has low fw, we will need a second emunand for the ‘legal’ stuff.

That is correct! And a really good way to do it.

 

[jaysea]

That is correct! And a really good way to do it.

For now I will make a sysnand backup and until emunand is a thing, I will keep my sysnand offline. When emunand is there, I will recover the sysnand from the image and make the emunands. This way I do not have to wait until emunand is there.

 

[guily6669]

Well you can always use 2 SD cards and use a permanent ink marker to know which is the one for online and the one for doing a lot of crap, this is close to a dual nand option...

There's just one problem atmosphere emunand is CFW too, so technically speaking there is already a ban possibility by just using it and it will be the race against hackers trying to bypass every single security check and nintendo on the other side keep updating stuff with more and more security...

Who really dont care updating sysnand, then the best safest solution is having a clean sysnand where not a single hack has been ever tested, then using a emunand 100% offline for the rest and completely remove the emunand SD from the console and use nand with original games only for going online, this would only probably ever be detected if nintendo could also log the RCM data, which is very unlikely. ITS THE SAFEST SOLUTION other than having 2 Switches which is 100% ban proof using 1 4 ever offline hacked and the other fully original (not really a solution at all) .

So 4 you since you are wanting to stay below FW4.1 then like I said first you would just use 2 SD cards with 2 emunands which does exactly what you wanted, but its not exactly 100% ban proof...


EDIT: Forgot to say you can also update the nand to last FW without burning the efuses, however again is not ban proof because no one ever thinks what if nintendo also check the efuses and see why would this console be on latest FW and Efuse XXXYYY not burned... I have no idea if nintendo bans 4 that, but it means even if not, at any point in time they can update stuff again, detect efuses and activate a ban flag anytime they want .

 

[Pippin666]

WTF man, having an emunand already mean that you have tempered your Switch = BAN

Pip'

 

[Addconsult]

Do not confuse him, he is semi-right, you can use a always offline emunand to isolate hacky stuff from being detected by nintendo (as long as it remain always offline and the other nands are clean and pristine whitout hacks) and indeed that avoid being baned(Nintendo can't ban you if nintendo does not know that you should be banned), altrought once you are baned you are banned no matter restoration, emunand, or anything, console baned, and account banned, only option to unban is to hire ninjas and raid nintendo servers.

Gofundme page for the ninjas ?