No you're not. You're talking about a completely separate scenario that no one ever mentioned, you're just reading what you want to read before spewing out your own theories.
It really does upset me when someone asks a perfectly fine and thought out question, and people start bashing him cause one idiot posts without reading the post properly, and then people continue to discuss based on the first repliers points, while ignoring the actual OP at hand.
I think we're all thinking you mean different things. Are you trying to avoid a ban? Or is this post just a psa that it would make it harder for Nintendo to detect bans?
OP do not want to use multiple nands so one can be baned and the others not, op want multiple emunands so he can do hacky stuff OFFLINE on one, and thus not be baned(You need to go online to be baned)
and have other emunand that is hack-free to go online(as long as nintendo can't tell a sysnand and a emunand apart, that we don't know, sience this is hack-free should be safe for online and thus not be baned)
and have other emunand that is hack-free to go online(as long as nintendo can't tell a sysnand and a emunand apart, that we don't know, sience this is hack-free should be safe for online and thus not be baned)
Your switch is tied to a certificate which is used for logging on to nintendos online services (eshop/online gaming/updates). That cert is unique for every switch and cannot be faked/spoofed whatever.
You just need to start a game which has a faked or missing cert (games have this too) and this will be enough to ban your switch forever.
Emunand/Sysnand backups won't help with making your banned cert valid again.
You just need to start a game which has a faked or missing cert (games have this too) and this will be enough to ban your switch forever.
Emunand/Sysnand backups won't help with making your banned cert valid again.
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NO, for fucks sake Dio, he's not asking to CIRCUMVENT A BAN, only avoiding GETTING BANNED, to operate in different NANDs based on the activity.
E.g. going online through your own cart, or playing a pirated version in another NAND to separate logs and what-not.
No one's bashing the op. Nor are we ignoring him. We're trying to answer what we thought he asked
He's trying to prevent a ban by keeping anything you'd be banned for on a separate emunand that would never go online. Assuming that Nintendo can't detect emunand (which is a big assumption, considering we don't have a working implementation on Switch yet, at least not publicly), I see no reason why this wouldn't work.
Good call... good call.
That "asymmetric cryptography" sure is important.
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Yes. I realize that I misunderstood the op. But shadowfied was saying that we were bashing him and ignoring his question. We weren't trying to Ignore the question, we just didn't understand it
Now answer for the OP:
What you said might be posible, but the problem is that we don't know if nintendo can tell apart a sysnand and a emunand, if nintendo can tell them apart, then what you said would not work sience nintnedo may ban you by the mere fact of having a emunand at all, but if nintendo can't tell them apart then what you said might be posible, just use 2 SD cards, and have a diferent emunand in each one, that even increase the security, you want to have the sd card for online as clean as the nand for online.
What you said might be posible, but the problem is that we don't know if nintendo can tell apart a sysnand and a emunand, if nintendo can tell them apart, then what you said would not work sience nintnedo may ban you by the mere fact of having a emunand at all, but if nintendo can't tell them apart then what you said might be posible, just use 2 SD cards, and have a diferent emunand in each one, that even increase the security, you want to have the sd card for online as clean as the nand for online.
when theres an option to restore nands you could put your old nand back on and then use tht to mke an emunand.
just backup saves before you go back to an old nand dump.
A second sd because you do not want nintendo to accidentaly find any payload or atmosphere folder or things like that I guess?
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Isn't that already possible?
save games with checkpoint for instance
For the nand recovery, I think I have seen that somewhere, but I cannot find the link due to the flood of posts in the nintendo switch secion. It was some kind of tool where you could read the image, there was some payload you could write the image to nand directly too if I am not mistaken
EDIT: HacDiskMount can restore the nand if you run the memloader payload.
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, Reason: Found the problem I was talking about.
Some games may require a higher firmware version than what you've installed on SysNAND. Theoretically a warmboot method that doesn't involve RCM should be coming for 4.0.1 and below, I think.
That would mean you will lose warmboot when you update the Sysnand from updated emunand. You will have to update at some point since games will require the higher firmware hence the use for an emunand
EDIT: Omg @RHOPKINS13 you beat me to it with almost the exact same answer
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