Hacking Wii U Hacking & Homebrew Discussion

[Oxybelis]

# sed
#
# Wrapper function for /usr/bin/sed. Needed because of a sed bug: when using
# some non-UTF-8 encoding formats (ex: Shift-JIS), executing on a file with
# multibyte characters, sed can hang. This function forces sed to use the UTF-8
# encoding format, then restores to previous format.

which helps with functions like this used by whoever the hackers were;

Ha-ha. It does not help at all. sed is unix utility which used in SDK somewhere. Not in Wii U itself.

 

[iNFiNiTY]

Uh the bug is in the xml files which are everyone on the 3DS and the Wii-U, everywhere. It does use a fair few unix libs you know thats why sony had so much trouble with libtiff over and over again.

 

[filfat]

Added big red warning in the top of the op.

 

[the_randomizer]

This isn't a new thing, but it takes a long time for these effects to "roll out" and lock people out so to speak or kick in, as stated by Joostinonline. Wii did it, but it took a while for the Wii equivalent to kick in as well. How long we'll have to wait remains to be a mystery. I'll just find people to play MK 8 locally, and RetroArch Wii, well, yeah.

 

[youreed]

well remaining opened doors and people hassling on them (for which some should be more grateful i think) are all that matters. i'd probably feel sorry about online game if i had MK8, but people gotta decide what they want....

 

[WulfyStylez]

Uh the bug is in the xml files which are everyone on the 3DS and the Wii-U, everywhere. It does use a fair few unix libs you know thats why sony had so much trouble with libtiff over and over again.

Bug =/= exploit, unfortunately. And all those utilities you mentioned are put there by Nintendo to test the system in various states. It's for QA testing, so you can find if your game has weird bugs when local storage is nearly full, USB, etc.

 

[Ray Lewis]

Marcan once said there was a hardware flaw that could not be fixed without a new revision? Also, before looking to play around...how did Comex brick his Wii U? He was doing something with an .ios right? Would somebody more knowledgeable comment on my questions, please? F
Finally, is it time to have methods documented to back up the WiiU Emmc? Is there anything preventing downgrading? I never was given this information BUT it seems logical given people are digging deeper now.

 

[WulfyStylez]

Marcan once said there was a hardware flaw that could not be fixed without a new revision? Also, before looking to play around...how did Comex brick his Wii U? He was doing something with an .ios right? Would somebody more knowledgeable comment on my questions, please? F
Finally, is it time to have methods documented to back up the WiiU Emmc? Is there anything preventing downgrading? I never was given this information BUT it seems logical given people are digging deeper now.

You need to dump both the onboard system NAND, and the eMMC NAND. We're not sure if it's possible to downgrade with these dumps though, nobody's tested.

 

[Ray Lewis]

You need to dump both the onboard system NAND, and the eMMC NAND. We're not sure if it's possible to downgrade with these dumps though, nobody's tested.

3ds could go back to the version you read. I think.... Read 6, update, and go back to 6 but not earlier. Something about not being able to sign the versions prior to your read. I am not sure the Wii U has any of this. If a person can raw read/write then maybe they would feel confident testing. Or, find the supporting documentation. This may help in what Nintendo is trying.

 

[Bug_Checker_]

Marcan once said there was a hardware flaw that could not be fixed without a new revision? Also, before looking to play around...how did Comex brick his Wii U? He was doing something with an .ios right? Would somebody more knowledgeable comment on my questions, please? F
Finally, is it time to have methods documented to back up the WiiU Emmc? Is there anything preventing downgrading? I never was given this information BUT it seems logical given people are digging deeper now.

paraphrasing xemoc I mean Comex:
then I did some random call (create key function) to some io control in the crypto module then WiiU wouldn't turn on

 

[WulfyStylez]

paraphrasing xemoc I mean Comex:
then I did some random call (create key function) to some io control in the crypto module then WiiU wouldn't turn on

That was poking at IOSU, also. No need to be worried about that specific brick yet.

 

[iNFiNiTY]

Bug =/= exploit, unfortunately. And all those utilities you mentioned are put there by Nintendo to test the system in various states. It's for QA testing, so you can find if your game has weird bugs when local storage is nearly full, USB, etc.

It's not there from Nintendo ffs, just get the SDK and read it seriously.. there's entire new files added coded by one or more people, there's just tons of descriptions about gaining full system access. It's not the clean SDK. The apps you are probably talking about, USBfillup and NANDfillup are both not even by Nintendo yet they are in the package..

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

About some weeks i had open a topic about update or not. And i choose not update. My WiiU remains 4.1. Nintendo is smart is closing the circle of updates. I question myself how many consoles was ben catch by the silent update and what will be the next step. Maybe a automatic wifi search and check? Well maybe i´m over reacting. But i still safe.

If you remove all internet settings from your console, there's no chance of a silent update being installed on your console. Of course this won't stop a disc update from happening. Just don't stick any recent games in ur wii u to prevent that lol

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

Marcan once said there was a hardware flaw that could not be fixed without a new revision? Also, before looking to play around...how did Comex brick his Wii U? He was doing something with an .ios right? Would somebody more knowledgeable comment on my questions, please? F
Finally, is it time to have methods documented to back up the WiiU Emmc? Is there anything preventing downgrading? I never was given this information BUT it seems logical given people are digging deeper now.

the hardware flaw you're referring to would be the race attack that gives us access to all the espresso cores in vWii mode (the one we're using for the trinux exploit). The flaw is in the hardware itself. Its not software patchable in any way shape or form. The worst thing nintendo could do is block the title id for the trinux launcher itself (or any other launcher used to initiate the race attack for that matter), which would be easily fixed, but just changing said title id XD trolololol

 

[TheLoneWolfe]

If you remove all internet settings from your console, there's no chance of a silent update being installed on your console. Of course this won't stop a disc update from happening. Just don't stick any recent games in ur wii u to prevent that lol

Isn't 4.1 the latest firmware to be put on a retail disc at this point?

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

Isn't 4.1 the latest firmware to be put on a retail disc at this point?

As far as I know yes, but who knows? Don't go buying/renting any new games if you don't wanna risk being updated

 

[Oxybelis]

Don't go buying/renting any new games if you don't wanna risk being updated

That is pretty easy for Wii U

Smash will come with new firmware though.

 

[loco365]

Nah, it lets you through. Just after some nags.

I can't even play Wii Sports Club because there's an update that's pending on the software, but it needs an eShop connection to download, which coincidentally, needs a firmware update to access.

 

[mkdms14]

How is this news? My WiiU has been forcing me to update to the latest firmware whether I want to or not. I turn on the WiiU it says without my permission "Updating please wait and don't turn off the power". There is no way to turn this feature off its been on since day 1.

 

[WulfyStylez]

How is this news? My WiiU has been forcing me to update to the latest firmware whether I want to or not. I turn on the WiiU it says without my permission "Updating please wait and don't turn off the power". There is no way to turn this feature off its been on since day 1.

That's part of standby, which has been included since day one. Turning off standby prevents updates from auto-downloading (though it doesn't prevent your wii from nagging you to download and install).