Just about everywhere i look on the net it's always something about gamecube 1.5 this or not good enough graphics that, and that sony was supposed to own everything again as usual. I think they underestimated the competition this time around, and now they are too embarrassed that one of the underpowered systems is beating them silly, and i know alot of people in here are tired of playing gta every year, or something similar that they have played 1000 times before. I thought thwe wii was supposed to change that with new types of games, and now that they have done that it's a bad thing now? I suppose everyone would be happy if games went the way of pacman not so long ago, because they way things were going last year it would have sooner or later. I think that everyone who plays anything should be thanking nintendo for bringing back the industry from death again instead of complaining, and whenever they get online that's when things will change for the better for them.