Question What's with wii u on switch not being possible

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  1. 64bitmodels
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    If the switch can emulate Wii and GameCube games, why not Wii U games?
    The only thing really stopping it is gamepad support.
    The Wii u uses the same hardware the Wii does. Why do so many people claim it's a pipe dream/impossible when the scene is already able to emulate the hardware the U is based off of?
     
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    The Wii U doesnt use the same Hardware the Wii does, tho it is compatible to Wii Hardware. The Hardware is far more advanced.
     
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    I thought it was simply just 2 wiis taped together?
     
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    The Wii U comes with a 1.243GHz Triple-core PowerPC-based Espresso microprocessor. The Wii, on the other hand, was a 729MHz single core device with a Broadway microprocessor. The Wii had 88 MB system memory, whereas the WiiU has a 2GB RAM with 1GB reserved for the operating system and there is many other differences between the two systems
     
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    The Wii U uses the Espresso CPU which has some similarities to the XBOX 360 CPU but keeps compatibility with the wii's Broadway. The GPU is an completely New Chip developed by AMD.

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    WTF, the whole CPU is named Broadway.
     
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    I see.
    Still it doesn't seem too far fetched some the switch seems that much more powerful than the Wii u... Is it?
     
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    There are a lot of differences. By comparison, the Wii and GC were quite similar.

    The Wii U was not significantly more powerful that the Wii, but it did have a tri-core CPU (verses the single core in the Wii) and more memory/faster graphics. But the CPU was backwards compatible with the Wii and the GPU was more than capable of handling Wii/GC SD graphics. The Wii U uses an actual OS as well (unlike the Wii)
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    The Switch uses a modified Nvidia Tegra X1 processor while the Wii U has a 1.24GHz tri-core IBM CPU and 550MHz Radeon GPU. They are not compatible. Don't expect the Switch to ever run Wii U games.
     
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    The Switch is more powerful as the Wii U, there is no doubt on that but its not by far more powerful. The Maxwell NV GPU is easily more Powerful than the Terascale AMD GPU in the Wii U. When we come to the CPU it gets more complicated. The Wii U uses an PowerPC tricore CPU which is very different from the Quad Core ARM CPU used by the Switch. Estimates say that the Switch CPU is still around 15 to 20% faster.

    The Tegra X1 inside the Switch isnt modified. Its an absolute off the shelf part and can also be found inside the Shield TV.
     
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    The Broadway is a microprocessor or cpu lol they both mean the same thing.

    Definition of a microprocessor

    an integrated circuit that contains all the functions of a central processing unit of a computer.
     
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    Sorry then. Im not an Native English Speaker and i thought you talked bs. Didnt want to insult you.
     
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    Just so you know I'm not talking bs look at this.


    Screenshot_20191017_020852_com.sec.android.app.sbrowser.jpg
     
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    The Wii U is more powerful than the PS2, and Xbox (OG), yet understandably no one is waiting on the system to be able to play games from those systems. Just because a system is more powerful doesn't mean that it can easily play any less powerful system before it. Heck, you'll still be hard pressed to find any system that can play a Sega Saturn emulator at a satisfactory speed.
     
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    Most of the good Wii U games have or are coming to Swich anyway. Best you're going to get otherwise buy a Wii U.

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    You must be out of the loop Saturn emulation is coming to Switch https://gbatemp.net/threads/yaba-sanshiro-optimised-sega-saturn-emulator-coming-soon.549776/ and is already playable on Lakka Switch and Android Switch.
     
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    They're inexpensive, and really are worth it if you hack them out.

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    But is the emulation any good? Technically there is a Saturn emulator for the Wii but it's so terrible that it's not even worth using. I'm sure that Switch Saturn emulator is better, but I'd be shocked if it's even close to full speed due to how strange the architecture of that system was making it hard to develop for in general, let alone emulate on system with very different hardware, even if they are significantly more powerful.
     
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    Yes all games are full speed playable on Lakka and Android and the dev m4xw did N64 PSP and Dreamcast is doing it for native Switch, it'll be perfect or at least near perfect.

    Yaba Sanshiro is perfect on PC it's laughable to compare it to the Wii Saturn emulator. Like I said you're out of the loop.
     
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    Double post.
     
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    Well then congrats guys, 4 gens later, and we can finally emulate the Saturn on modern consoles. Perhaps that helps illustrate all the more why asking for full speed compatability with a system from only one gen earlier isn't always as simple as it may sound (which of course isn't to say that it can't be rather simple from one gen to the next, just depends on how different the architecture is).
     
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  18. EmulateLife

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    Don't congratulate me I was simply correcting you on something you clearly had no clue about. It doesn't matter when it happened Saturn emulation is way better than back when someone tried to do it for Wii. I've been emulating Saturn on PC for nearly a decade.
     
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    lol it wasn't directed at you in general.
     
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    Wrong. It is different.
     
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    Also what do you mean by correcting? I wasn't wrong, Saturn emulation was a pain and only now 2 decades later are we getting decent emulation. In no way does that negatively affect my point, but only reinforces it.
     
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