What to do with o3DS/Gateway?

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  1. simbin
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    My two main goals:
    • retain Gateway functionality
    • A9LH booting
    A9LH+Gateway(sysNAND)?

    Got A9LH+Luma on n3DS and love it!
     
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    You can't use Gateway on an a9lh 11.2 sysNAND?
     
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    Yes, you can. That's how I'm currently set up. I have 3DS with a9lh & Luma3DS on SysNAND 11.2. I've installed the GW launcher and GW chainloader on the SD card and I'm able to start up GW mode by pressing dpad left on power up. I still run GW with EmuNAND (also on 11.2) as that is the default way to run GW.
     
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    Sorry, what I meant was "Can you use Gateway on an a9lh 11.2 sysNAND WITHOUT an emuNAND?"

    My current setup is the same as yours. I was thinking of moving to a sysNAND only setup, but won't if it means I can't use Gateway anymore.
     
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    Please let me know if I'm understanding this correctly..

    You need emuNAND to keep Gateway functionality

    but you want Luma sysNAND for DSiWare and GBA?

    I'm wondering the same
     
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    I don't think EmuNAND is essential, but I don't currently have my GW at hand to test. I think the launcher expects an EmuNAND by default, but you can force it to use SysNAND by pressing buttons whilst launching Gateway Mode. From the GW manual:

    Yes. But Luma3DS also allows you to install .cia games directly onto the console, so you don't need to carry cartridges around. Not so critical if you've got a GW already. You also don't need to worry about private headers with .cia installed games.
     
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    You can (I am sysNAND-only with Luma and Gateway) but it's safer to use emuNAND, so you don't brick if you accidentally update in Gateway mode. And you don't have the annoying message at start-up.
     
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    B̶u̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶e̶a̶s̶i̶l̶y̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶t̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶N̶A̶N̶D̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶u̶p̶ ̶o̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶A̶9̶L̶H̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶l̶l̶e̶d̶?̶
    Ahh, no FIRM protection in Gateway

    W̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶n̶ ̶L̶u̶m̶a̶ ̶A̶N̶D̶ ̶G̶a̶t̶e̶w̶a̶y̶ ̶-̶ ̶t̶o̶g̶g̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶b̶o̶o̶t̶?̶

    I̶s̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶s̶o̶l̶o̶ ̶A̶9̶L̶H̶+̶G̶a̶t̶e̶w̶a̶y̶ ̶s̶y̶s̶N̶A̶N̶D̶?̶

    W̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶n̶o̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶-̶u̶p̶ ̶m̶e̶s̶s̶a̶g̶e̶?̶
     
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    Yep a brick from updating in Gateway mode is a real brick (overwriting the place where a9lh is installed)

    Yep - I hold down on boot to get to Gateway mode.

    Yes, but you'll be stuck on 9.2 (or whatever firmware Gateway time machine installs from) and have no access to payloads to recover your system, so it's really the worst of all worlds. No advantage. Better to stay on menuhax Gateway.

    On Gateway 4.2 (I think) when you boot into sysNAND you have to confirm with some button combination that you truly want to boot into sysNAND.
     
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    Just install A9LH with luma and the whole shabang. Then what you do is, you sideload GW. What I have is GW set to boot with down on the Dpad. The thing is, if you do this you still need a emunand, because GW complains about using sysnand and it has no protection as mentioned. You should be able to boot an emunand through A9LH 11.2 sysnand, but it's kind of a pain. Honestly I'd give straight CFW a shot. I stopped using my GW and got a bigger SD card, however the functionality is present for me if needed.
     
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    I'm to the point where I just need to sideload Gateway but am unsure what I need. Probably just some sort of Gateway payload for Luma - I'm guessing. emuNAND is still intact

    NVM Got it Freaking awesome!
     
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    Thanks @Quantumcat. You're very knowledgeable, and a consistently helpful member of this community.

    Often I'll read through a thread I think I'll be able to contribute something to, only to discover a post of yours, and I realise you've got it covered.

    You most definitely cannot boot emuNAND from a sysNAND higher than 9.2 (a9lh or otherwise).

    Luma payload chaining ("sideloading") is the only way.
     
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    Thanks :-)
    And you too!
    But I believe you can still boot emuNAND on a9lh with an updated sysNAND (you tick the options in Luma config that relate to emuNAND rather than sysNAND).
     
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