Hacking USB Loader GX

[GolfDude]

somethign is really wrong with this latest loader update.. now i either get black screened or it reboots back to the wii menu..

 

[obicom]

I ask the same question on thread side 614, but I think there was a misunderstanding. I tried the channel loader function in different USBLoader versions (663-672) on my wii, but all the time it did not work. The screen get black for a short time and then tured back to the USB Loader screen. Currently the firmware 4.1e (not the original, but waninkokos 4.1 installer) is installed on my wii. Now my question: Is it only "my" problem, or is it the same at other wii's ? Could somebody successful start the system channels on a wii with the firmware 4.1e ?

 

[Snoozer]

Edited

Question about Game Language :

Game language --- The language that is passed to the game when it is booted. If the language is supported by the game, it will be used in game.

I've got a game that contains FR, but as it was released only in US so it has only an US synopsis. If I change the game language I will access to the synopsis but the game will load in US ? Is there a way to change that ?

Head over to the wiitdb web site sign in and add the french synopsis by yourself

because there is no reason why a game that is published in the US should ONLY have US synopsis, you know.
otherwise no, theres no way to differ between the synopsis language and the game boot language.
well you COULD edit the xml. but these changes are overwritten in case you update your wiitdb.zip in any way

 

[Logan]

nice to see that someone keeps up the releases

As you should have known/guessed by now me and starstemr are busy right now with other stuff. I'm trying to keep the site up to date but with 5kbps speed, by the time I'll manage to upload the latest release the next one will be out

Maybe I should try to convince logan to be part of the site too

PS: GIANTpune, you sure committed a lot releases for this sort time oO . Niceeeee.

PS2: @ anyone: if anything at the site is outdated plz pm me to fix it. except releases of course.

Hey there

Well I try my best to keep on top of the revisions

Always happy to help, so if you need a hand keeping revisions up to date on the website, or with anything else, just holler

 

[Twid]

well you COULD edit the xml. but these changes are overwritten in case you update your wiitdb.zip in any way

Ok, I'll try to find a french version of the synopsis...

 

[tj_cool]

Head over to the wiitdb web site sign in and add the french synopsis by yourself

because there is no reason why a game that is published in the US should ONLY have US synopsis, you know.
otherwise no, theres no way to differ between the synopsis language and the game boot language.
well you COULD edit the xml. but these changes are overwritten in case you update your wiitdb.zip in any way

Wiitdb.com doesn't allow you to enter FR synopsis on a US game afaik
too bad

edit: seems you can

 

[BlackEnigma]

somethign is really wrong with this latest loader update.. now i either get black screened or it reboots back to the wii menu..

Same with me

Edit: or I guess I should say same for me

 

[Smiff]

maybe giantpune rocked too hard again

channel loading is fine with 3.2E, don't want to risk update to 4.x without good reason though..
(still on r671)

can someone please tell me exactly which hermes cIOS installer i should use for maximum compat. with this loader? there's so many links to different versions i have no idea what to do. thanks! (have been using 249 fine but want to be ready for some games that need 222 (/223?))

 

[nikeymikey]

r675 all working fine for me, EXCEPT no channels will boot from the channel menu, system channel or wiiware. Booting any channel results in black screen then reboot to USBLoader GX. IS it because i am booting GX straight from preloader??


PAL 4.1e wii, cIOS r14, r675 (booting from preloader).

EDIT: Booting a homebrew channel, such as neogamma resluts in black screen and wii freezes.

 

[retKHAAAN]

maybe giantpune rocked too hard again

channel loading is fine with 3.2E, don't want to risk update to 4.x without good reason though..
(still on r671)

can someone please tell me exactly which hermes cIOS installer i should use for maximum compat. with this loader? there's so many links to different versions i have no idea what to do. thanks! (have been using 249 fine but want to be ready for some games that need 222 (/223?))

I use the installer that came with uloader 1.6 and have no compatibility issues. Hermes released rev3 of his cIOS a few days ago but I've not found a changelog detailing what's different. If it removed some of the fixes to rely even more on mload then GX may not be optimized for it as I'm sure Hermes' mload is being updated with each new revision of his loader but GX may not be keeping up with any changes he is making.

 

[jakejm79]

I have test it again. I have installed the Forwarder and have the USBloader on my other Partition on HDD. My system is 4.1 without preloader etc.. Now when i Boot the usbloader an my Game " The Conduit " the USB loader make a reset into the system Menue ! Now i make the same but without my SD Card ( There are a few Homebrew apps), the Game loads perfect.

Works fine for me (just played through the 1st mission). 4.1U cIOSrev14 preloader running from SD with 1 partition using GXrev672, all I had to do was enable 002 Fix: Anti and everything else worked fine. I did get a warning saying a nunchuck was needed even tho i had already plugged it in, a quick replug fixed it, but i suspect it may have been unrelated.

Works fine with 674 too, but I still get the nunchuck error.

 

[jono@home]

QUOTE(jono@home @ Jul 29 2009, 07:03 PM) ok interesting..

How do you boot your loader? It sounds more like a drive issue than a cIOS or loader issue, like your drive is not fully on when you boot the loader.

via channel forwarder and from usb..

note the cios prompt very very rarely happens if at all, it only came about because I was fiddling with the drive & preloader settings..
again as I said earlier the booting game problem never came about with loader version below revision 648 with cios rev 14 (dual partition)

since that revision normally gx will boot up.. games list will work fine.. but games will not load... but they do if prompted for cios version first on boot of gx

Have you tried booting the loader after turning ALL Preloader hacks OFF? I had some boot issues a while back that were resolved by turning off all of my preloader hacks. There really aren't many hacks you might need while using the loader other than the "copy saves" hack but you can just turn that on when you plan on using it. You might need to reboot your system after turning off all the hacks, then reboot and start the loader (if you haven't tried this already).

yup.. tried that same results, however I can't see what preloader will do to effect it.. same hacks are set as when the dual partitions worked before revision 648, so they cannot be the problem...

something broke in the revision 648 of the GX loader... and peeps have struggled to fix it since..

My suggestion as it seems the loader works fine after the prompt screen for the cios type appear (bare in mind as I said this prompt screen rarely ever comes up as my harddrive always appears to be detected), maybe a 'reload' of cios detection is required on GX's boot?

just a thought..

 

[pepxl]

code dumps or black sreens booting a game with r675

anyone else getting them?

 

[jono@home]

code dumps or black sreens booting a game with r675

anyone else getting them?

and do you have dual partition by any chance... lol

read the last 10-15 pages..

 

[retKHAAAN]

QUOTE(jono@home @ Jul 30 2009, 10:59 AM) yup.. tried that same results, however I can't see what preloader will do to effect it.. same hacks are set as when the dual partitions worked before revision 648, so they cannot be the problem...

something broke in the revision 648 of the GX loader... and peeps have struggled to fix it since..

My suggestion as it seems the loader works fine after the prompt screen for the cios type appear (bare in mind as I said this prompt screen rarely ever comes up as my harddrive always appears to be detected), maybe a 'reload' of cios detection is required on GX's boot?

just a thought..

Not sure why you continue to say that smoething "broke" in revision 648 when most other people have no issue. You and I use the same harddrive/setup and GX is and always has been working beautifully for me. There has to be user error in there somewhere. I'm not trying to call you out or anything. I just think that after all of the debugging and suggestions others have offered, your issue should have been resolved. Something is not adding up and I don't think GX is the issue.

 

[Logan]

I still standby if you're using cIOS rev 14 and GX, then you accept there may be issues. And unless you're willing to try EVERYTHING, and by EVERTHING I mean wiping HDD, reformatting, trying app from SD instead of USB, reinstalling cIOS rev 14 etc. etc. There are so many trouble shooting methods and variables away from the app itself that need to be explored as well. The devs owe nobody anything and its far too easy to say "its broke for me, fix it".

As I've said before, and as said above. It's not a widespread issue. If it were, there would be a lot more complaining about it in this thread. There are some who even had the issue, but don't now. It stinks of user error, I'm sorry.

 

[jono@home]

QUOTE(jono@home @ Jul 30 2009, 10:59 AM) yup.. tried that same results, however I can't see what preloader will do to effect it.. same hacks are set as when the dual partitions worked before revision 648, so they cannot be the problem...

something broke in the revision 648 of the GX loader... and peeps have struggled to fix it since..

My suggestion as it seems the loader works fine after the prompt screen for the cios type appear (bare in mind as I said this prompt screen rarely ever comes up as my harddrive always appears to be detected), maybe a 'reload' of cios detection is required on GX's boot?

just a thought..

Not sure why you continue to say that smoething "broke" in revision 648 when most other people have no issue. You and I use the same harddrive/setup and GX is and always has been working beautifully for me. There has to be user error in there somewhere. I'm not trying to call you out or anything. I just think that after all of the debugging and suggestions others have offered, your issue should have been resolved. Something is not adding up and I don't think GX is the issue.

there is no user error.. seriously... really

Ive covered about every angle their is... I am very technical minded so confident in what I am able to do.. By any means I am not saying I am perfect.. just believe me when I say I have covered every angle..

so when I say something broke in rev 648.. from my angle, where I am sitting now.. and the things I have done.. just seem to point to that...

and its not just me reporting the error.. there is a few other people who are also having this problem.. read a back a few pages.. or look up the 'issues' on google codepages site

 

[jono@home]

I still standby if you're using cIOS rev 14 and GX, then you accept there may be issues. And unless you're willing to try EVERYTHING, and by EVERTHING I mean wiping HDD, reformatting, trying app from SD instead of USB, reinstalling cIOS rev 14 etc. etc. There are so many trouble shooting methods and variables away from the app itself that need to be explored as well. The devs owe nobody anything and its far too easy to say "its broke for me, fix it".

As I've said before, and as said above. It's not a widespread issue. If it were, there would be a lot more complaining about it in this thread. There are some who even had the issue, but don't now. It stinks of user error, I'm sorry.

everything you have said their I have done and more.. seriously..

I have even tried two differant hardrives.. with the same results..


apparently someone mentioned this problem happens in more recent versions with even cios revision 13a, so it looking like this might not be down to cios revision 14 either...

I also accept their will be problem along the way as we are at a Beta stage, i'm trying to give my input to assist with fixing this issue..

 

[Nollog]

Not sure why you continue to say that smoething "broke" in revision 648 when most other people have no issue. You and I use the same harddrive/setup and GX is and always has been working beautifully for me. There has to be user error in there somewhere. I'm not trying to call you out or anything. I just think that after all of the debugging and suggestions others have offered, your issue should have been resolved. Something is not adding up and I don't think GX is the issue.

If the exact same config works on a 1 partition drive, and doesn't work on a 2 partition drive it points to an issue with the loader with dual partitions.

Some people have said that if you plug out the drive and wait for the "no drive" error where you select your cIOS you can play games fine, and that works for me too, so that further narrows down the errror in their code. (Loading the cIOS's).
They shouldn't ignore it, but at the same time this is not a release, it's not even a beta to be perfectly honest either.
It's a "nightly build" type of release so we should expect these errors to pop up so I'm 100% understanding.

 

[retKHAAAN]

Not sure why you continue to say that smoething "broke" in revision 648 when most other people have no issue. You and I use the same harddrive/setup and GX is and always has been working beautifully for me. There has to be user error in there somewhere. I'm not trying to call you out or anything. I just think that after all of the debugging and suggestions others have offered, your issue should have been resolved. Something is not adding up and I don't think GX is the issue.

If the exact same config works on a 1 partition drive, and doesn't work on a 2 partition drive it points to an issue with the loader with dual partitions.

Some people have said that if you plug out the drive and wait for the "no drive" error where you select your cIOS you can play games fine, and that works for me too, so that further narrows down the errror in their code. (Loading the cIOS's).
They shouldn't ignore it, but at the same time this is not a release, it's not even a beta to be perfectly honest either.
It's a "nightly build" type of release so we should expect these errors to pop up so I'm 100% understanding.

What I'm trying to say is that the number of people experiencing these issues is far far lower than the number of people who have everything working. I've used a Seagate FreeAgent Go for as long as I've been using GX and have no issue with dual partition (first FAT32, second WBFS), just like many other testers. I also run the loader/images/config from an SD card. I've tested through USB and had slower boot times so I just stuck with SD. It's entirely possible that cIOS rev14 is causing the problems. It's also entirely possible that some drives just have compatibility issues with the cIOS/Loader. One more test you can try is to install 222 if you haven't done so, set your global boot to 222, then do a full shutdown and boot the loader to help narrow down if it's a cIOS 249 issue or not.

Also, if available, try out another drive, even a thumbdrive.

If you've exhausted all options, try going through them again in a different order. Maybe GX just hates you and loves me? I don't know if the coders programmed the AI yet. I promise if pune could he would though.