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US launched missiles at Syrian base after Chemical Weapon attack

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Disappointed that Trump made this move against the Syrian govt but GBATemp... better to leave politics out of it.

Syria was a bunch of jackasses and gassed their own people with chemical weapons, what are we supposed to do, let those idiots get away with killing their own? AFAIK, the UN banned using those for warfare, esp against people.
 

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Syria was a bunch of jackasses and gassed their own people with chemical weapons, what are we supposed to do, let those idiots get away with killing their own?
Alt-right people think that this is a false flag perpetrated by the CIA and the opposition rebels. You won't be able to get through to them because they are working with alternative facts. Their view of reality is different than yours or mine.
 

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Alt-right people think that this is a false flag perpetrated by the CIA and the opposition rebels. You won't be able to get through to them because they are working with alternative facts. Their view of reality is different than yours or mine.

That doesn't answer my question, why the hell are people defending Syria and its leader? The leader should've gotten off his ass and gone after the people who used gas. But no, he just sat there not doing a bloody thing. And now people are all butthurt that the US struck Syria for their actions. Gimme a freaking break.
 
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That doesn't answer my question, why the hell are people defending Syria and its leader? The leader should've gotten off his ass and gone after the people who used gas. But no, he just sat there not doing a bloody thing. And now people are all butthurt that the US struck Syria for their actions.
It does answer your question. Basically these people don't think Assad actually gassed his own people - and he is fighting the rebels everyday - so you can't exactly say that he's not trying to stop them.
 

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The Republicans have been pushing for war ever since, and believe it or not Obama was the one who didn't want to get involved..
Obama sought to gain authority to take intervention in the area. He was very pro intervention in this case...

But now that the Republicans are in power - I think that war is in our near future.
Considering Hillary also has supported these air strikes it would not have been different (in addition to her hawkish FP). Plus many democrats are applauding such action and most who do not only are against it on grounds it is not congressionally approved.
 

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Obama sought to gain authority to take intervention in the area. He was very pro intervention in this case...


Considering Hillary also has supported these air strikes it would not have been different (in addition to her hawkish FP). Plus many democrats are applauding such action and most who do not only are against it on grounds it is not congressionally approved.
The difference is that John McCain and the Republicans in the house passed laws to give lethal aid to Ukraine, and Obama vetoed them. So in Ukraine at least - it was Obama's discretion that kept us out of the conflict there.

I know McCain and Trump aren't on good terms, but I'm confident that the Republican establishment will get the war they've wanted since 2014.
 

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The difference is that John McCain and the Republicans in the house passed laws to give lethal aid to Ukraine, and Obama vetoed them. So in Ukraine at least - it was Obama's discretion that kept us out of the conflict there.
True but regardless action in Ukraine was never that probable, although he did take certain actions like the (wrongly imposed) sanctions against Russia. Although if such action was to be held for a congressional vote then many democrats would support it regardless...
 

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True but regardless action in Ukraine was never that probable, although he did take certain actions like the (wrongly imposed) sanctions against Russia. Although if such action was to be held for a congressional vote then many democrats would support it regardless...
When you say that Obama wrongly imposed sanctions on Russia, are you saying that you think the war in Donbass, and the seizing of Crimea against international law were not reprehensible actions?
 

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When you say that Obama wrongly imposed sanctions on Russia, are you saying that you think the war in Donbass, and the seizing of Crimea against international law were not reprehensible actions?
I am against sanctions in general as they normally are ineffective and when effective harm the innocent citizens the most.
 

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I am against sanctions in general as they normally are ineffective and when effective harm the innocent citizens the most.
Some sort of action was necessary though, and sanctions (combined with the falling value of crude oil) greatly diminished Russia's GDP. This meant that Russia had less money to buy arms with, and that her citizens were less happy with the government - increasing the possibility of civil unrest and possible regime change. When the citizens have to pay for the government's actions - then the citizens become unhappy with the government, and often the government is forced to change course.

You'll notice Russia has not advanced further into Ukraine for over a year now.
 

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This meant that Russia had less money to buy arms with, and that her citizens were less happy with the government - increasing the possibility of civil unrest and possible regime change.
Which is absolutely horrible and should be avoided.

When the citizens have to pay for the government's actions - then the citizens become unhappy with the government, and often the government is forced to change course.
Or it just increases instability as we have seen.
 

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Which is absolutely horrible and should be avoided.


Or it just increases instability as we have seen.
The bottom line is that Russia had to be stopped from invading European nations - and our options were sanctions or war. Obama chose sanctions, and I think Trump will choose war.

You have to agree that Russia can't be allowed to invade her neighbors? You have to think about the unrest that that causes as well. Many Ukrainian people have died in the Donbass.
 

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The bottom line is that Russia had to be stopped from invading European nations - and our options were sanctions or war. Obama chose sanctions, and I think Trump will choose war.
Ultimately, Trump probably will choose war (although it is likely he probably could push it off towards his successor if he loses in 2020 but who knows) but Obama's actions (and those of Bush and even Bill Clinton) all have played a role in this situation. Did Obama succeed? No but he stalled it which could be seen as a success to some...


You have to agree that Russia can't be allowed to invade her neighbors? You have to think about the unrest that that causes as well. Many Ukrainian people have died in the Donbass.
True regardless any action that Trump will take (and the actions Obama took) just made it a bigger shit storm than it already was much like what has happened in the Middle East.
 
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