The Gaza Invasion Escalates

[Engert]

I have a question for you Valwin.
Why do you seek Western approval?
I mean Israel can nuke Palestine. Why do you seek approval?

 

[Valwin]

I have a question for you Valwin.
Why do you seek Western approval?
I mean Israel can nuke Palestine. Why do you seek approval?

wtf are you talking about ?

also ceasefire haves been announce for today so hopefully Hamas will stop shooting missile at Israel and wont break the ceasefire

 

[BobTheJoeBob]

wtf are you talking about ?

also ceasefire haves been announce for today so hopefully Hamas will stop shooting missile at Israel and wont break the ceasefire

And hopefully Israel will finally remove their illegal settlements and their occupation of Palestinian territories. Don't hold your breath though.

 

[Valwin]

And hopefully Israel will finally remove their illegal settlements and their occupation of Palestinian territories. Don't hold your breath though.

no need to remove something that was already remove so HOPEFULLY Palestine wont break the truce as the always do

 

[BobTheJoeBob]

no need to remove something that was already remove so HOPEFULLY Palestine wont break the truce as the always do

'The international community considers the settlements in occupied territory to be illegal.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

 

[dickfour]

It's been a great few days for Hamas. They killed 6 of their citizens and dragged their body's though the streets spitting on them and kicking them. Then they celebrated. Then they bombed a bus in Israel full of civilians and handed out candy and celebrated Then Hamas supporters in Israel ran for bomb shelters as a Hamas launched rocket flew over head. Ironic?
Hamas is a vile terrorist organization bent on killing as many civilians as possible. They're very effective at l,using the victim card and too many socialists in the west buy into the propaganda and make common cause with these vermin

 

[Engert]

wtf are you talking about ?

lol.
Ok, let me ask you a different question.
Would you pay for six beers if you were in a bar and pick up the tab for the other people?

 

[ganons]

Sick

 

[ForteGospel]

It's really sad looking at this discussion going on and on...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/21/tel-aviv-bus-bomb-gaza-spread

A device left on the number 142 bus exploded around noon, spreading shards of glass across the road and pavement. Fifteen people were taken to hospital, three of them with moderate to serious injuries, and others were treated for shock. Police said it was a terrorist attack.

There were no credible claims of responsibility for the attack. In Gaza, where celebratory gunfire was heard as news of the blast spread, Hamas praised the bombing without saying it was responsible.

Israel's top political leaders were uncharacteristically silent in the aftermath, suggesting that they may fear jeopardising the delicate negotiations in Cairo with hawkish statements.

There was speculation that the attacker came from the West Bank.

just to let you know, I actually witnessed this bombing today

today at 9 pm the ceasefire begun... Israel kept doing airstrikes at Gaza until 8:47 pm on 2 military targets, rockets from Gaza kept coming at least until 9:30 pm when I stopped watching the news.

foxi said on page 4:

Looks like I won't have to have the thread's title changed then - it's going to be a full-on invasion soon.

looks like you will have to change the thread's title in the end

 

[emigre]

Why did you partially highlight the last sentence? To a casual reader it distorts the facts. Or was that your intention?

 

[ForteGospel]

Why did you partially highlight the last sentence? To a casual reader it distorts the facts. Or was that your intention?

I can change that if it pleases you, he was not captured as far as I know, will it please you more if he was from Gaza itself?

 

[Valwin]

Sick

I could go to the south of the USA and get mobs like that demanding war ect all nations haves crazy people

I could get you a picture of Palestinians killing someone and dragging his body all over the street

 

[emigre]

I can change that if it pleases you, he was not captured as far as i know, will it please you more if he was from Gaza itself?

What the hell are you insinuating?

 

[ForteGospel]

What the hell are you insinuating?

I am saying that this was a Palestinian terror attack against civilians, doesn't make any difference to me if he came from the west bank or Gaza.

 

[BlueStar]

Sure enough, Israel swiftly moves to punish Palestine for the UN vote by authorising the theft of more land in illegally occupied areas

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20552391

In more positive news

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/30/footballers-u21-european-championship-israel

A group of Premier League footballers and players in other major European leagues have condemned plans to hold the Under-21 European championship in Israel next year, saying it will be seen as a "reward" for this month's assault on Gaza in which young people playing football were killed when a sports stadium was bombed.
The signatories, who include Eden Hazard of Chelsea, Abou Diaby of Arsenal and five Newcastle players – Papiss Cissé, Cheick Tioté, Sylvain Marveaux, Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba – also criticised Israel's continued detention without charge or trial of two Palestinian footballers.

 

[BlueStar]

Interesting initiative

Israelis use Facebook to deliver poke at democracy in elections
Real Democracy initiative matches Israelis willing to 'donate' their votes to Palestinians who decide how vote should be cast

For millions, it's a way of idling away time, catching up on gossip, making social arrangements or playing FarmVille. But Facebook is increasingly being used as a political tool, and a group of Israelis are using the social networking site to challenge conventional democracy in next week's election.
The initiative, called Real Democracy, has allowed hundreds of Israelis to "donate" their votes to Palestinians as a symbolic protest at what they perceive as a lack of democracy.
It matches Israeli voters who are willing to give up their vote with Palestinians who decide how – or whether – the vote should be cast. The organisers say it is "an act of civil disobedience against … the undemocratic nature of the Israeli elections … elections of a government which controls four million Palestinians without a voting right".
Shimri Zameret, one of those behind the scheme, hopes that the numbers participating will be in the thousands by polling day. The aim is to give Palestinians a potential say not just in the next Israeli government but also in its "de facto control over the United Nations security council".
The idea came from a similar campaign in the UK in 2010, when Britons "donated" their votes to citizens of Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Ghana. "Politics transcends borders but governments are national. This is an attempt to create a new form of politics," said Zameret.
One of those who has offered her vote to a Palestinian is Aya Shoshan, 28, who works for an NGO in Tel Aviv. "I posted on Facebook that I am an Israeli citizen who would like to pass on my vote to a Palestinian living under Israeli rule," she said. "Giving my vote is a symbolic act … if Palestinians are not part of this democracy, then neither am I."
Shoshan is now in discussions with a Palestinian originally from Hebron but now living in the US. "He hasn't made up his mind how to use my vote," she said.
Ayah Bashir, 24, a university teacher in Gaza, has asked her Israeli counterpart, Dror Dayan, to boycott the election on her behalf. "I call for boycotting Israel at all levels, not just the election but academic, cultural and sporting boycotts," she said. "The Israeli system is an apartheid system, and the Israeli Knesset [parliament] is a Zionist and racist institution."
Bassem Aramin, a Palestinian from East Jerusalem whose 10-year-old daughter Abir was killed by an Israeli soldier six years ago, is supporting the initiative. "I have no control over the Israeli government who sent the soldier [who killed my daughter]," he said. "I live under occupation. We Palestinians have no vote or veto in the UN security council or the government that controls us. That is undemocratic."