So... I have learned something about software... that I'm even more stupid than I thought when it comes to software
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So I tried following that brick guides thing from before
And uhhhm... since none of them were 1:1 tried a couple of the options and uhhhm yeah seemed to either do nothing or make things worse... the closest description was the mail brick so I used that tool to clear the message board, nope that was not it... Saw something on there about using nus downloader to restore your system menu since system menu seems to be where I have trouble so used nus downloader to grab 4.3U and IOS80-64-v6944 like it said it needed aaaand no longer even got a "press A to continue" on the health and safety screen, used bootmii to restore the nand to just undo what I had done, and well that succeeded but also means still a bricked wii