Gaming trimed v untrimed games

[swf3]

hi guys
whats your thougths on this ie do they about work the same?
just got some trimed and never used them b4, there a gift for some one on a dstt , you think there ok??

thanks guys

 

[Arno]

They work fine. I haven't experienced any download play problems or Wi-Fi problems. Go ahead and give them as a gift.

 

[Ferrariman]

As long as you trim them with a good trimmer, it should run just fine.

 

[swf3]

thanks guys
if it ok i can p.m you where i got them from and you can have a look? and tell me there ok?
they come trimed thats what i worried for. didnt know this when getting them, and dont have any time to try them out for to long

thanks

 

[Gerinych]

Trimming deletes all the dummy sectors that make up a round number in a ROM, like 32MB or 64MB.

 

[fma]

Did anyone ever create a list of games that can be trimmed, and how much MB you save?

 

[granville]

Did anyone ever create a list of games that can be trimmed, and how much MB you save?

I don't believe it's been done. If you use a trimmer like Rominator, it tells you how much space it'll trim before you trim it. At any rate, it depends on the game. A good example of a decent trim size was Final Fantasy 3 DS. The original rom was 128MB, but it trimmed to I believe about 90MB. Big savings in space right?

 

[MyauChanDesu]

I'm sure that has been some games that had problems with download play when trimmed.

I just forgot what.

But I'm sure there are some *tried it myself*

I use NDSTokyoTrim

 

[fma]

Thanks granville, will look into Rominator...

 

[Destructobot]

I'm sure that has been some games that had problems with download play when trimmed.

Only if you use a bad trimmer. If they are trimmed properly they work exactly the same as if they were untrimmed. NDSTokyoTrim is the way to go.

 

[MyauChanDesu]

I'm sure that has been some games that had problems with download play when trimmed.

Only if you use a bad trimmer. If they are trimmed properly they work exactly the same as if they were untrimmed. NDSTokyoTrim is the way to go.

That's what I used.

 

[Edgedancer]

A couple of games used to be trimmed in a way that they would stop online/download play from working but now the trimmers leave a little extra data on it to stop the problem.

 

[Anakir]

I remember there was a game that was 128mb. It got trimmed and went down to 65 mb. lol they just went overboard by 1 or 2 mb. Such a waste.

 

[Bob119900]

I've always used the r4 trimmer and never had any problems.

 

[Jalabaster]

Soo.. let me get this straight.
And before I get lambasted for asking a dumb question, Yes, I did search the forums for an answer. Maybe not 45 minutes of searching, but I put in at least 12 good solid minutes of effort.

A rom trimmer simply cuts out unnecessary data that is put there by developers as a sort of filler?

 

[BlueStar]

Soo.. let me get this straight.
And before I get lambasted for asking a dumb question, Yes, I did search the forums for an answer. Maybe not 45 minutes of searching, but I put in at least 12 good solid minutes of effort.

A rom trimmer simply cuts out unnecessary data that is put there by developers as a sort of filler?

The physical carts that NDS games are stored on only come in set sizes, 8Mb, 16Mb, 32Mb etc. If you're a publisher and your game is 24.3Mb, you have to put it on a 32Mb cart because it won't fit on a 16Mb one. When the game is dumped, the entirety of the 32Mb is dumped, including the blank space at the end, which is taken up by zeros. A rom trimmer strips these zeros off to take the rom back down to 24.3Mb.

 

[Reaper]

Did anyone ever create a list of games that can be trimmed, and how much MB you save?

I don't believe it's been done. If you use a trimmer like Rominator, it tells you how much space it'll trim before you trim it. At any rate, it depends on the game. A good example of a decent trim size was Final Fantasy 3 DS. The original rom was 128MB, but it trimmed to I believe about 90MB. Big savings in space right?

Summon Night - Twin Age
128MB > 66MB

 

[playallday]

I always trim my games. Even that I have 5GB left on my SD card

, I hate to waste space!

 

[Rod]

I use NDSTokyoTrimmer, and the only game I know where trimming might "ruin" the ROM is Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, both the (J) and the (E) version. It takes a ridiculously small amount of space (something like 100KBs or so) and leads to a white screen on R4. EVERY other game I downloaded, trimmed and played never had a single side effect.

If you're still "afraid" of doing it, here's a tip: in case you have a backup of your ROMs on your hard drive or DVDs or whatever, leave 'em zipped but untrimmed. There's no difference size between a trimmed and untrimmed ROM when zipped. Only trim those you're going to pass to your flashcard, and when you're going to do it. Problem solved.

 

[davislim]

I used r4 rom trimmer for about 50+ roms, including 8mb games,.
It doesn't cause me any much problems or glitches to my games...