trimed v untrimed games

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  1. swf3
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    hi guys
    whats your thougths on this ie do they about work the same?
    just got some trimed and never used them b4, there a gift for some one on a dstt , you think there ok??

    thanks guys
     


  2. Arno

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    They work fine. I haven't experienced any download play problems or Wi-Fi problems. Go ahead and give them as a gift.
     
  3. Ferrariman

    Ferrariman Hip-Flop and cRap

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    As long as you trim them with a good trimmer, it should run just fine.
     
  4. swf3
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    thanks guys
    if it ok i can p.m you where i got them from and you can have a look? and tell me there ok?
    they come trimed thats what i worried for. didnt know this when getting them, and dont have any time to try them out for to long

    thanks
     
  5. Gerinych

    Gerinych GBAtemp Fan

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    Look at the flag
    Trimming deletes all the dummy sectors that make up a round number in a ROM, like 32MB or 64MB.
     
  6. fma

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    Did anyone ever create a list of games that can be trimmed, and how much MB you save? [​IMG]
     
  7. granville

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    I don't believe it's been done. If you use a trimmer like Rominator, it tells you how much space it'll trim before you trim it. At any rate, it depends on the game. A good example of a decent trim size was Final Fantasy 3 DS. The original rom was 128MB, but it trimmed to I believe about 90MB. Big savings in space right?
     
  8. MyauChanDesu

    MyauChanDesu Kamineko is GOD.

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    I'm sure that has been some games that had problems with download play when trimmed.

    I just forgot what.

    But I'm sure there are some *tried it myself*

    I use NDSTokyoTrim
     
  9. fma

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    Thanks granville, will look into Rominator...
     
  10. Destructobot

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    Only if you use a bad trimmer. If they are trimmed properly they work exactly the same as if they were untrimmed. NDSTokyoTrim is the way to go.
     
  11. MyauChanDesu

    MyauChanDesu Kamineko is GOD.

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    That's what I used. [​IMG]
     
  12. Edgedancer

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    A couple of games used to be trimmed in a way that they would stop online/download play from working but now the trimmers leave a little extra data on it to stop the problem.
     
  13. Anakir

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    I remember there was a game that was 128mb. It got trimmed and went down to 65 mb. lol they just went overboard by 1 or 2 mb. Such a waste.
     
  14. Bob119900

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    I've always used the r4 trimmer and never had any problems.
     
  15. Jalabaster

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    Soo.. let me get this straight.
    And before I get lambasted for asking a dumb question, Yes, I did search the forums for an answer. Maybe not 45 minutes of searching, but I put in at least 12 good solid minutes of effort.

    A rom trimmer simply cuts out unnecessary data that is put there by developers as a sort of filler?
     
  16. BlueStar

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    The physical carts that NDS games are stored on only come in set sizes, 8Mb, 16Mb, 32Mb etc. If you're a publisher and your game is 24.3Mb, you have to put it on a 32Mb cart because it won't fit on a 16Mb one. When the game is dumped, the entirety of the 32Mb is dumped, including the blank space at the end, which is taken up by zeros. A rom trimmer strips these zeros off to take the rom back down to 24.3Mb.
     
  17. Reaper

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    Summon Night - Twin Age
    128MB > 66MB
     
  18. playallday

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    I always trim my games. Even that I have 5GB left on my SD card [​IMG] , I hate to waste space!
     
  19. Rod

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    I use NDSTokyoTrimmer, and the only game I know where trimming might "ruin" the ROM is Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, both the (J) and the (E) version. It takes a ridiculously small amount of space (something like 100KBs or so) and leads to a white screen on R4. EVERY other game I downloaded, trimmed and played never had a single side effect.

    If you're still "afraid" of doing it, here's a tip: in case you have a backup of your ROMs on your hard drive or DVDs or whatever, leave 'em zipped but untrimmed. There's no difference size between a trimmed and untrimmed ROM when zipped. Only trim those you're going to pass to your flashcard, and when you're going to do it. Problem solved.
     
  20. davislim

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    I used r4 rom trimmer for about 50+ roms, including 8mb games,.
    It doesn't cause me any much problems or glitches to my games...