tmbinc "Scope pr0n"

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  1. Slimmmmmm
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    Slimmmmmm GBAtemp MoNkEeE

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    http://debugmo.de/2010/07/scope-pr0n/

    A screen dump from an oscilloscope showing the laser mark from a Datel disc.

    BUT, it's not a real laser mark...instead it's actually embedded in the datastream [​IMG]

    Either you're reading and this and thinking...so...and..what ?
    Or you're guessing this is how Datel boot their disc on umoddified consoles.

    I myself can't see this advancing fast, but surely it's a breakthrough and we should all be excited, this could intheory lead to...well you know [​IMG]


    Thoughts ?
     
  2. W hat

    W hat Rhythm Heaven Fan

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    This would possibly allow easier GC piracy. Do GC action replays work on virgin Wiis after 3.2?
     
  3. Zetta_x

    Zetta_x The Insane Statistician

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    So let me get this straight, datel's discs are not official retail discs which generally should require a modchip to read. Instead Datel has modified the data on the disc so that in a way somewhat emulates a retail disc thus allowing it to be played on unmodified consoles? I have never in my life used any of the tools or had any experience in this, this is just a guess based on current evidence I have seen in the last 10 seconds.
     
  4. og style

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    Maby I am wrong here but in the comments on the page it says something about it being a PS3 and not a Wii.

    This is the Wii section.
     
  5. DownSince86

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    I love stuff like this, thanks for posting it.

    /me bookmarks that site.
     
  6. Zetta_x

    Zetta_x The Insane Statistician

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    Even if it is for the PS3, I would guess there is some relevance ties in with the wii.
     
  7. jan777

    jan777 motion control..? srsly? so 2008. 3DS is teh bombz

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    read again? the ps3 part was just his guess.

    He also confirmed it was a GC disk, and Datel. so I guess that the Wii section in appropriate enough.
     
  8. SifJar

    SifJar Not a pirate

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    FYI, the GC and Wii disc stuff is the same, Datel's reverse engineering of GC is what allowed them to make Freeloader. If a disc is correctly signed, and encrypted properly or whatever this is referring to (don't know quite the right term), it'll play fine on an unmodified Wii. Only reason Freeloader stopped working on Wii is because it used Trucha Bug.
     
  9. Slimmmmmm
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    Slimmmmmm GBAtemp MoNkEeE

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    But that's a bit offtopic, funny though [​IMG]
     
  10. Slimmmmmm
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    Slimmmmmm GBAtemp MoNkEeE

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    I couldn't help but bump this...

    omg is no one interested ?

    You guys n gals do know who tmbinc is don't you ?

    He's the guy that did the "Original" tweezer hack and well it led to... other things ....
     
  11. Bladexdsl

    Bladexdsl ZOMG my posts...it's over 9000!!!

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    i came into this thread expecting porn cos that's how some peeps spell it pr0n [​IMG] than i understood the word A screen dump than trailed off there [​IMG]
     
  12. linuxares

    linuxares GBAtemp Psycho!

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    I'm really intrested. Problem is that I have really no programming experience. Else I would want to reverse one of these discs.
     
  13. Slowking

    Slowking GBAtemp Maniac

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    Hmm I guess this could make modchips useless and even pla burned discs on D3-2 drives.
    Only question is if this would work with consumer burners or only chinese pirate copies...

    And ofcourse Nintendo will check for the code in the datastream in upcoming games and/or system menus, so this will break sooner or later...
     
  14. SanGor

    SanGor Witchhunter

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    Aren't you guys forgetting something? Like the BCA, the DMI, the custom sector layout ?

    What tmbinc figured out won't allow you to play burned discs on your Wii/GC.
     
  15. Slowking

    Slowking GBAtemp Maniac

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    This seems to simulate the BCA inside the data stream.
    But like I said I don't know if this could work with consumer burners. But it will certainly lead to chinese knockoffs that run without a chip sooner or later.
    Consumer burners would definatly need a custom firmware if it's possible at all.