The WiiKey problem seems rather simple to me

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Jan 31, 2008
  1. Phange
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    It seems like the WiiKey really wasn't all that compatible with Dual-Layer discs, and the argument that "it won't play legit copies" seems to confirm this. Not only that, as far as I can tell most people who have tested it have tried NTSC-J discs on NTSC-U systems. Now, the argument that the "WiiKey remains off when playing legit discs" would seem to be debunked right there, but remember that the WiiKey has to activate in order to boot games of different regions, and if the WiiKey doesn't support DL discs, then there you go.

    Just a though. I'm sure it'll get fixed, and I certainly find irony in the fact that the only currently-dumped SSBB is one on a DVD-5 and only works on WiiKey/D2CKey.
     
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    but correct me if i'm wrong... doesnt the real game not load on NSTC-J machines with wiikeys installed?
     
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    So Wiikey supports DVD9 discs.
     
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    THEN WHY DOESN'T THE F***ING ORGINAL DISCK WORK WITH JAP Wii + Wiikey?!?!
     
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    has any1 tryed dumping this useing the usb gecko
     
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    Because probably Wiikey doesn't shut off with originals [​IMG]
    Or maybe Nintendo added some Wiikey-specific protection, who knows. But DVD9 is supported by Wiikey, so the the issue is probably another.
     
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    I remember people saying that the last Wiikey update had DVD9 support.. just when SSBB was announced as a DVD9 disc..
    Maybe Nintendo really made a Wiikey specific protection.. who knows!?
    Anyway.. we still don't know what will happen with a backup DVD.. and is good to remember that this is the J version.. the US version might even come with a different protection.. or no protection [​IMG]
     
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    Uh, what? SMG isn't a DVD9 game. I don't think any Wii games are so far.
     
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    Well i really think Nintendo acturally tries to kill the WiiKey/D2CKey/D2Pro team becurse they have hurted te console SO much by being the first to hack the (un)hackable D2C.
     
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    I think that's total BS... There's nothing they could have done to target just WiiKey.
    Also, if someone said WiiKey doesn't support DL, then a few post later, someone asks why the original doesn't work... put two and two together: if it doesn't support DL, and SSBB is Dual Layer, than why would it matter if it's an original or a backup, either way it's Dual Layer.
    On top of that, it's been proven that WiiKey DOES support Dual Layer (thanks raulpica), only the WiiKey dumper doesn't. People are just getting confused (including myself) because others are posting false info as fact.
    BTW, nice avatar raulpica [​IMG]
     
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    The Wiikey Team has already confirmed to WiiNewz that they are in the process of securing a copy of the game to correct any issues a.s.a.p.
     
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    Thanks [​IMG]
     
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    He's talking about the test that was done earlier, in which SMG was burnt on a DL disc. Even though it's not a DL game, it burnt on both layers, and still worked.
     
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    So they didn't get a copy of the game yet?! Interesante...muy interesante.
     
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    I think it's even simpler. My theory is that the current WiiKey logic only looks to see if the disc is single layer Wii format. Anything else and it drops into trying to play a backup. Since the SSBM disc is dual layer (supposedly) it doesn't see it as an original disc and tries to read it as a regular DVD which of course fails. If the WiiKey is powered off then the Wii would see it as a proper dual layer Wii disc and run it.

    I think the WiiKey team will be able to make a quick fix for this. The dual layer support is there in the drive, it's just a matter of changing the WiiKey code to recognize original Wii dual layer discs, creating a dumper to put the drive in dual layer mode to extract it all, and of course code to recognize dual layer backups (which some people say is already there).

    Just a theory of course! [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah it'd probably have to be reprogrammed to try to boot regular DVDs then since a Pioneer drive generally records a dual layer DVD+R as "dvd-rom".
     

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