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Why is there no footage of any actual fighting?

idk maybe people too busy fighting a war to take a selfie during all the bullets flying around.

No, fuck this shit. Russia and Ukraine are both fucking corrupt shitholes full of retarded idiots (I know that, I've been to both). Don't fucking drag my NATO country into this shit. A nuclear missile silo is less than 100 km away from my city, and we're the first that'll get hit. I don't care enough about some eastern European shithole to risk a war coming to my front-door.

do you think Putin will stop at Ukraine?

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This, this is a good idea:

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Asylum for sure, citizenship, ehh... In time, after the war maybe. I can see Putin using this to his advantage. It wouldn't be the first time he'd use the goodwill of European hospitality to try to undermine the EU.
Why is everyone freaking out about the loss of some social media platforms there? Couldn't they access them from TOR?
Not everyone is tech savvy, some social media platforms actively block Tor endpoints and social media is the means of personal communication for many and is a way for collective organizing.

Genuinely don't know if this was Putler intention (might want to scare his own people to rally behind him, God knows what is going on in this Wacko's mind), but I'm glad Germany his finally putting on a tough stance with great emphasis on European unity:



I love how the democratic leader is the one showing strength and character while the far right sits there, pussy-whipped by their Russian overlord.
 
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Asylum for sure, citizenship, ehh... In time, after the war maybe. I can see Putin using this to his advantage. It wouldn't be the first time he'd use the goodwill of European hospitality to try to undermine the EU.
They need to treat them like North Korean defectors. They are held in special housing (hotel quality) until they are completely vetted.

But yea that is amazing idea.. they have been plenty of Russian just giving up knowing they will be ruffed up… offer them a better life and they’ll hand over their rifles in droves
 

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Looks like China is looking at Russian and went Nope too much trouble​

‘They were fooled by Putin’: Chinese historians speak out against Russian invasion

A state sponsored historian tend not to state anything without “consulting” their goverment handlers

Would a historian consult their government to speak up to pressure their government?

I think Chinese government stance will be to remain neutral as much as possible. They want Russian support for when they enact on their plans to do the same with Taiwan and they want to take the opportunity to offer Russia to take CIPS to replace SWIFT and also establish themselves as the dominant economical partner of Russia, but they want to keep their position in global trade, their plans like the Belt and Road initiative, etc. If they speak or act either way they'll lose something.
 
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North Korea only exists because it has nuclear power (and is/was backed by a nuclear power).
Well, that and North Korea can level South Korea's capital city to pieces, even without nukes. Also, I don't think South Korea even wants to unify with North Korea at this point, as the burden would be way too much.
 

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I thought that Gambia

Are you telling me otherwise?

Even if so, why the hell would it be the first to get hit?

Also Gambia isn't in NATO.
Africa and Germany are almost the same thing by now (lol jk).

Because it would be strategically logical to bomb the nuclear missile silos in Germany first. Our "western partners" by the other side of the transatlantic bridge wouldn't probably even get a scratch.

do you think Putin will stop at Ukraine?
It's quite obvious that he would stop. The whole thing running now is about the Ukraine not joining NATO, primarily to avoid the war between Russia and NATO. Why? Because as soon as Ukraine joins the NATO, it will try to regain the Crimea through military intervention. And that would mean a full fledged war between Russia and NATO, because then the NATO would be bound by the contract to take part in this conflict. That would be the worst possible scenario for everyone on this planet. People seem not to understand this.
Everyone who care about Ukraine that much, go buy a ticket and help them fight the russian mob. And leave everyone else out of this.
 

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It's quite obvious that he would stop. The whole thing running now is about the Ukraine not joining NATO, primarily to avoid the war between Russia and NATO. Why? Because as soon as Ukraine joins the NATO, it will try to regain the Crimea through military intervention. And that would mean a full fledged war between Russia and NATO, because then the NATO would be bound by the contract to take part in this conflict. That would be the worst possible scenario for everyone on this planet. People seem not to understand this.
Everyone who care about Ukraine that much, go buy a ticket and help them fight the russian mob. And leave everyone else out of this.

so madman will stop. what ever you say tampax
 

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What do you what me to say? Putin (madman) threaten to nuke everyone because people would not look the other way because he wants to destroy a sovereign nation. what grantees do you have he will stop at Ukraine?

he wants the Soviet Union back. FACT. would you give back east Germany to the Russians?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
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What do you what me to say? Putin (madman) threaten to nuke everyone because people would not look the other way because he wants to destroy a sovereign nation. what grantees do you have he will stop at Ukraine?

he wants the Soviet Union back. FACT. would you give back east Germany to the Russians?

Soviet Union back? No, no, no... He wants the Russian Empire back. He uses National Bolshevism foreign policy, but the internal policies have nothing to do with Bolshevism and he wants to be remember as a new tzar, a conqueror.
 

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What do you what me to say? Putin (madman) threaten to nuke everyone because people would not look the other way because he wants to destroy a sovereign nation. what grantees do you have he will stop at Ukraine?

he wants the Soviet Union back. FACT. would you give back east Germany to the Russians?
Putin doesn't want an additional NATO country at his border, that's a FACT.
What guarantees that he will stop at Ukraine? The NATO. Really, it's that simple. Sign the agreement that Ukraine will not join NATO, and the war is over. It's that simple. No more bloodshed. That's a reasonable price for saving thousands of lives and saving this planet from a possible nuclear war.

Remember when, during the cold war, a russian warship with nuclear warheads was on it's way to Cuba to build up the silos there? Remember how USA threatened the soviets with a nuclear war when they won't turn around? We're in the same situation right now, only with role reversal.

Guaranteeing that Ukraine won't join the NATO, is such a minor sacrifice, considering how many human lives can be saved by that act. Everyone can keep what they already have, Ukraine will stay a sovereign country, the west can still earn a lot of money by providing Ukraine with a lot of military equipment, and Russia shuts the fuck up. That would be the best possible outcome considering how the situation heats up right now.
 

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Putin doesn't want an additional NATO country at his border, that's a FACT.
What guarantees that he will stop at Ukraine? The NATO. Really, it's that simple. Sign the agreement that Ukraine will not join NATO, and the war is over. It's that simple. No more bloodshed. That's a reasonable price for saving thousands of lives and saving this planet from a possible nuclear war.

Remember when, during the cold war, a russian warship with nuclear warheads was on it's way to Cuba to build up the silos there? Remember how USA threatened the soviets with a nuclear war when they won't turn around? We're in the same situation right now, only with role reversal.

Guaranteeing that Ukraine won't join the NATO, is such a minor sacrifice, considering how many human lives can be saved by that act. Everyone can keep what they already have, Ukraine will stay a sovereign country, the west can still earn a lot of money by providing Ukraine with a lot of military equipment, and Russia shuts the fuck up. That would be the best possible outcome considering how the situation heats up right now.
This bullshit. Ukraine was not in NATO and adhered to a neutral status and Russia invaded the territory of Ukraine and annexed Crimea and part of the Donbas
 
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