The future of flash cards?

Discussion in 'NDS - Flashcarts and Accessories' started by Balrogs.Pain, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. Balrogs.Pain

    Balrogs.Pain GBAtemp Fan

    Aug 2, 2008
    Well, tonight, i'm eating some food, and i was at a DSI thread and they were talking about how nintendos ways of blocking piracy and all of such, have all failed. But now that flash cards are flat dead on the DSI (currently) What do you think will happen to them? Do you think that some how people will create a firm ware allowing them? Or do you think that a firmware will make them useless as the SD slot on the DSI will allow everything a cycloDS(Mabye?) Could do/
    Or mabye, we'll all be sticking to lites for our piracy needs. State your thoughts!
  2. DeMoN

    DeMoN GBAtemp Guru

    May 12, 2004
    United States
    Everyone will just stick with the DS Lite, regardless of the flash card issue. The DSi sucks!
  3. Diablo1123

    Diablo1123 Newcomer

    Mar 9, 2008
    United States
    Why would you get a DSi?
    GBA > DSi Ware stuff
  4. daiyong

    daiyong Member

    Oct 23, 2008
    I just wonder if DSi is being hacked?
  5. Rayder

    Rayder Mostly lurking lately....

    Former Staff
    Jan 14, 2007
    United States
    Biggest problem with DSi is that it can get firmware updates. Even if someone manages to figure out how to make it play ROMs, Ninty will just drop a firmware update and the ROMs stop working again.

    I think the DSi will require a hardware mod or firmware hack to play ROMs. I think it will be more of a fight to keep ROMs running in it, if they ever do.

    My plan is to pretend that the DSi never existed.
  6. chaofan

    chaofan GBAtemp Regular

    Aug 7, 2007
    But couldn't you just not download it, aka Wii? Perhaps Ninty can kill homebrews with firmware, but as usual hackers will always be on the move XD.

    I'm not planning to get a DSi either. It's for those who've yet gotten into the phenomenon that is the DS.
  7. Searinox

    Searinox Dances with Dragons

    Dec 16, 2007
    ROMs on DSi: An exploit might be found to bypass restrictions, if not, then either other flashcart developers will make their own compatible, or we will have a new firmware flash. If that becomes possible, not even Nintendo's firmware updates can stop the hack: people will develop an OS mimic that runs FROM the unpatched OS and that Nintendo WiFi detects as being an up-to-date firmware.

    Flashcarts: Suppose one of the two above happens. Team Neoflash, who seem to take decisions like they're on crack, might bother developing a working flashcart for the DSi.

    DSiWare: it is extremly possible to create an app that will mimic the DSi firmware and runs on any other flashcart. With that, one of the major DSi pros drops.

    The DSi: Will suck so badly that it will result in a catastrophic system failiure killing everyone connected to the Matrix, which coupled with the destruction of Zion will result in the extinction of the entire human race.
  8. cepheus

    cepheus GBAtemp Regular

    Oct 8, 2008
    Ottawa - THE CAPITALLLLLL!!!!!
    I actually think the DSi's SD card slot will become its greatest exploit.

    We might not even need flash cards to begin with =D

    however, the ability for the DSi to firmware upgrade like the Wii makes things a lot more difficult.
    we should just be thankful that no hypervisor was installed like on the ps3 (still no stable hacks).
  9. AlexElder

    AlexElder Advanced Member

    Dec 27, 2006
    I fully agree with this. Those hackers are so smart these days it's basically asking to be exploited.
  10. Vulpes Abnocto

    Vulpes Abnocto Drinks, Knows Things

    Former Staff
    Jun 24, 2008
    United States
    Oh c'mon, man. Every other topic posted this week has been about the DSi. There are dozens of people working on it as we speak.

    First, I think we'll see hacks through the SD slot. Those will run into limitations, I suspect, so there will be a wave of DSi-specific flashcarts that come out. (Oh joy!)
    The best current flashcart makers might be able to create a firmware update in a few months which makes that flashcart work on the DSi, but that will make that cart DSi specific, for a while.
    About a year from now, we could have firmware which allows swapping of a cart from the DSL to the DSi without trouble, but I'm guessing that the files would be more massive than the Sakura triple boot.

    Oh, and the world will end in seven days.
  11. Another World

    Another World Emulate the Planet!

    Former Staff
    Jan 3, 2008
    From Where???
    what about the firmware updates packed into the carts?

    -another world
  12. Zaiga

    Zaiga GBAtemp Regular

    May 6, 2008
    I think most people will stick witht the DS Lite. The DSi isn't much of an improvement, unless they release DSi only games.. Then I might have to get one.
  13. cepheus

    cepheus GBAtemp Regular

    Oct 8, 2008
    Ottawa - THE CAPITALLLLLL!!!!!
    I think the DSi is mainly a release to keep things fresh so the DS line can continue to compete with the PSP (seeing how the PSP3000 is coming about).

    so yea, DS lite should be good for a long while.
  14. Jran Sakarra

    Jran Sakarra GBAtemp Regular

    May 24, 2008
    United States
    Somewhere in Kanto
    The DSi will be cracked.
    Thats is just a fact of life.
    Now we may not need flash carts then, but we might be able to use them in new ways with the DSi too.
  15. klein

    klein GBAtemp Regular

    Aug 21, 2008
    United States
    What about beyond the DSi though, and onto Nintendo's next system entirely? Will it be DS compatable? Will it use cards, cartidages, disk even? Will that even be hackable? Are all things hackable or was it just a flaw in the DS exploited? Nobody knows.......
  16. gekiwolf

    gekiwolf Advanced Member

    May 16, 2008
    Ill use my pandora battery and MMS on my ds to play homebrew [​IMG]

    I also agree about the sd slot being a great exploit. If the cards don't work maybe the firmware will be flashed like a psp.
  17. WildWon


    Former Staff
    Apr 4, 2008
    United States
    8-Bit Heaven
    Well, we've seen a Hello World program already working on the DSi. Flashcart firmware could easily be updated to work on the DSi, and Custom Firmwares will be the way of the DSi Future. Flashcarts wont be needed w/ the built in SD slot. But flash carts will still be produced. The thing with CFW's is that there's always a chance of bricking. And that is what Nintendo is banking on. Piracy will shrink, but will still be readily available for DSi users, just as it is for PSP users. There will be a few options available when this beast hits the mass market.

    Also, you can't say the DSi is a bullshit system. If its not for you, its not for you. Haven't we learned to trust Nintendo's choices when it comes to systems? I mean, yea, the 'cube was a lil bit of a flop, but both the DS and the Wii were bitched about before they came into their own, and now they are fucking killer systems (...not as a video game power house, but because of what can be done with them).

    I'll be picking up a DSi when they come to the states. I really dig where Ninty's going with this. Also, i don't want to lose my GBA playing abilities, so i'm keeping my DS phat as well (and if i want to get rid of it, i'll get a GBA micro... at some point lol)