Gaming Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution

[Dazimus]

I saw the release date as yesterday and have been refreshing GBAtemp since yesterday morning looking for the news of its release

 

[manias]

EBgames has it in stock I believe so should be there soon

 

[Dazimus]

Videogamesplus.ca has started sending it out to customers too.

 

[Hadrian]

2438 - Sid Meiers Civilization Revolution (USA)
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File Name: xpa-crev.rar

Downloading now, 17mb compressed.

 

[Pyrofyr]

I can't honestly say that Nintendo has continued to innovate, when all they do is use the same franchises over and over. Sure, the hardware (Wii, DS) is innovative, but how innovative are the games? Mario Galaxy was innovative, but largely due to it being built for the hardware. Twighlight Princess was the same. Zelda on DS was basically the same as any other Zelda game, except the hardware AGAIN made the innovation. I consider Nintendo to be no different than Sony and Microsoft, except that they've been with us the whole time and we let them get away with it, because they put it all under the blanket of "innovation."
IT is true, but I mostly meant in a hardware aspect as far as the newer systems are concerned.
I found Phantom Hourglass to be quite innovative but the main problem with it is that it seemed like a prequel not a fulll game, once you get into using all of the weapons and pushing the fun out, the game ends, and your stuck with your tail between your legs asking for more.

Another thing I have to say about that is that while you may say that Nintendo MADE the basis for ALL of these other systems. The controller was a Nintendo 'invention' and everyone else just ran with it. SEGA did come up with a few great ideas like the memory cards for Dreamcast! Those were killer.

As far as innovation in games go, I've seen some great ones on Nintendo across the years, maybe you've just been playing the wrong ones?

QUOTE(Hadrian @ Jul 9 2008, 03:07 PM) 2438 - Sid Meiers Civilization Revolution (USA)
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File Name: xpa-crev.rar

Downloading now, 17mb compressed.

YAY

 

[Icey]

2438 - Sid Meiers Civilization Revolution (USA)
Group: XPA
File Name: xpa-crev.rar

Downloading now, 17mb compressed.

I'm sure you mean uploading it from your Slot 2 so you have it as a backup.

Yeah I'm getting it also

 

[VmprHntrD]

Fuck roms I bought it.

Mind you since i wasn't in the mood for manuals I did the Chieftan mode to try it out. I really like how they took the direction on it with the console aspect scaling down the hours needed to finish. On the random map non-campaign mode on easy I've had to compete with 4 civs and 3 I wiped out so far. Sieging a town is NOT easy once they have archers embedded in a city as they'll just wax the crap out of your swordsman/legion though a good catapult or some revolutionary era rifleman can do the works. The city management is 50% there as you can dictate focus on resources, still pick all your units, town improvements, and so on, and even do your road making, but the higher detailed where/how to set up the farming around town, irrigation and other little things are out. Combat is handled on a quicker but still turn based pacing, and a nice thing I've noticed is a general (at least on easy) lack of random walking settlers to piss you off re-starting so-called defeated nations.

I think I put around 2 hours or so on it and I think in another 30-60 I can kick the crap out of the last party. The random map world is not tremendously huge like PC versions of the game, but it's no territorial skimp either. I only have done one random map so I have no idea if you can end up screwed on some crappy little island and have the hard road of working out. In my world I made 2 towns, swung around and pounded some barbarians all over, some place, then french, romans, arabs, and I have the zulu left to the NE and one of their 3 cities sit on an island.

I really do like this as it's the full civ thing just on a more scaled level so you can do your fun in 3hours instead of say 10 (comparing easy modes on Civ1 vs this) but I'm sure on hard it can take quite a bit of time and effort.

 

[VVoltz]

Fuck roms I bought it.

Mind you since i wasn't in the mood for manuals I did the Chieftan mode to try it out. I really like how they took the direction on it with the console aspect scaling down the hours needed to finish. On the random map non-campaign mode on easy I've had to compete with 4 civs and 3 I wiped out so far. Sieging a town is NOT easy once they have archers embedded in a city as they'll just wax the crap out of your swordsman/legion though a good catapult or some revolutionary era rifleman can do the works. The city management is 50% there as you can dictate focus on resources, still pick all your units, town improvements, and so on, and even do your road making, but the higher detailed where/how to set up the farming around town, irrigation and other little things are out. Combat is handled on a quicker but still turn based pacing, and a nice thing I've noticed is a general (at least on easy) lack of random walking settlers to piss you off re-starting so-called defeated nations.

I think I put around 2 hours or so on it and I think in another 30-60 I can kick the crap out of the last party. The random map world is not tremendously huge like PC versions of the game, but it's no territorial skimp either. I only have done one random map so I have no idea if you can end up screwed on some crappy little island and have the hard road of working out. In my world I made 2 towns, swung around and pounded some barbarians all over, some place, then french, romans, arabs, and I have the zulu left to the NE and one of their 3 cities sit on an island.

I really do like this as it's the full civ thing just on a more scaled level so you can do your fun in 3hours instead of say 10 (comparing easy modes on Civ1 vs this) but I'm sure on hard it can take quite a bit of time and effort.

Great mini-review.
You made me want to go grab and play it!

 

[bumjeans]

Vampire, which level are you playing on?

I started a Chieftain and played for 15min and I only have one more Civ to defeat for a Domination victory! So far Im not that impressed. I guess I need to up the difficulty so that City management really matters. At the moment I dont really care what I research or build.

 

[Private|Par]

I'm not saying that games I've played on the Nintendo platform haven't been good, great even. I'm just saying they haven't been very innovative as such. Moving on...

I'm legally buying this from my local store as we speak, and should be addicted very soon.

 

[miruki]

Hahaha.. I think I totally suck at this game. ;_; I played a random map on the easiest mode and after one hour the Russian and Indian ganged up on me and I was desperately fending them off. *sigh* I have to admit it's my first Civ and besides watching my bf play one of the PC versions and playing the PS3 demo some time ago I've never really played it before....

But still, it's pretty addicting once you get used to the confusion caused by the tiny screens... it's not as pretty as the PC/PS3 version too, but well.. the gameplay is fun. The only thing that annoys me so far is that you can't see how many defensive units are in one city until you enter the city screen and make them active again. Stupid. :/

 

[Leamonde.Halcyon]

I'm enjoying it, now that I got the hang of it.

It confuzzles me, however, to report that Ghandi has just declared war on me and indicated that I am standing in the way of his plans for world domination

 

[Panzer Tacticer]

Yah AOE pissed me off how they sucked it up so bad on DS and not having learned their f'n lesson they're making a second one just like it the pricks.

The ONLY reason it rated decently was that it was a very very early title and did bleed some originality and quality due to the lack of non techdemo like stuff and GBA level bs, plus that genre had no support yet. Had that game come out after Advance Wars and a few others it would have been stomped and laughed at.

I'm a big AOE2 fan, still have it installed even, though I play another game who plays the same now (Axis and Allies from 2006 on PC) so I still have the craving just on a different type of map.

You are the definition of funny.

Of COURSE you thought Age of Empires was boring, you have like no attention span.

If you're silly enough to buy ANY game based on turns, you SHOULD be separated from your money and laughed at.

Civilization Revolutions is turning out to be a great game (my opinion), but then I LIKE games with turns that require slow methodical thinking.

If you can't find enjoyment in anything other than games wearing the letters RTS in the title, then you really made a mistake buying or even just downloading Civ Rev.

I'm not saying I unilaterally hate RTS designs by the way. But I tend to dislike 95% of them.
Which is why I never buy them only so I can declare, "this game sucks".

 

[Hillsy_]

Let's consider, the Wii is about as poweful as let's say a PS1/2
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I'll probably say an Xbox 1, 733Mhz.. not the PS2's 298Mhz...

Give the Wii at least some credit.

Civ Revo feels alittle cluttered to me, but they have done a good job of even attempting to do this. On the PC I find Civ 3 & 4 overly complicated, especially unit promotions & vassals etc.. AI seems to cheat alot on the higher difficulties too. Civ 1 & 2 will always be my favourites. I think Sid Meier has spoiled the Civilization series by becoming overly complicated. Any comments anyone?

 

[begedinnikola]

i tried to game and there's stuff i like and stuff i dont like.
i like the way they adapted it for the console, so there's not so much micromanagement required.
i also like the fact that a single game is shorter than on the pc.

what i dont like is the lack of smooth animations and movement. the game actually gives the impression of lagging (which it probably is). i think in this case its obvious that the ds wasnt the primary or important enough target for the developers.

 

[deathboy333]

nice game i played it until it stucked ( i had an problem maybe il play it today)

 

[VmprHntrD]

Panzer you're a jackass and a moron it appears. I'm a BIG AOE fan and it pissed me off they went turn based with it as that genre typically is not fun for me against AI as they always seem to know every damn thing you do. The outstanding title that never bothered me though was Civilization 1 (and 2.) I never said I hated turn based so I dunno where you're coming up with that crap and my so called stupidity and needing to be robbed of my cash. I think you need to re-insert yourself into some elementary school reading class and take a refresher.

I also tend to hate nearly all the RTS games too. Over the years I've found moderate enjoyment only in Warcraft II, C&C1, Dune II, Warlocked on the GBC, Axis and Allies (2006), and bothered to finish Starcraft once but didn't go back. Most the others I've hated as the setup is convoluded, the stages are grossly rigged, the AI tend to have hot and cold intelligence which sucks, and various other stupidity based things. I probably like 5% of the RTS games out there, just happen to only like 1% of the turn based titles (civ1, 2, and revolutions and that's about it.)


MIRUKI My suggestion is to rapidly on a new game make 3 guys, hit the button to make an army of them and lock it down inside the city and upgrade it with the improved city defense. From there just raise your stats fast while having a 4th (now 2nd due to the merge) and explore a bit. Once you get gifted with another settler make a town fast and do the same...then tie together with a road. I suggest working on literacy, construction like things, metal workings, various things that'll get you better attack/defense units all the while raising tech and happiness across the board. If you can get that much at least done up to the 2 towns and can fortify them you'll be good. Also, if you can, quickly get an army out there and flatten someone near by before they can level up too for an easy steal of a town.

 

[Hillsy_]

The main problem with Civ is it starts off nice and quick and then...in mid to late AD starts to grind to a halt because of the number of units and decisions the AI has to do. I'll be interested to see how the DS handles this.. Remember when Civ came out on the Super Nintendo..

I'm not a real RTS fan either, but I do like abit of Total War, especially Rome Total War. Funnily enough Rome Total War reminds me of Civ.. Don't know why.. probably the turn based map part...

Aye, Dune II was good..

 

[VmprHntrD]

Hillsy: It handles basically the same as CIV did. The ONLY and HUGE difference is that you don't see every damn move on the map your units or theirs do. In the case of you, let's say you can move 8 spots, you'll see like the first and last one or two, and for enemies you'll just see immediate moves in your are if you have someone very close by and it's minimal to keep the speed going.

MINI REVIEW PART 2 on LEVEL 2

Right now I'm on game two and it's going at a fair bit pace slower on the 2nd level of difficulty. The game I think maybe right as far as a few reviews I saw said where 1 is wussy for newbies, 2 is a good challenge, and 3 and up is varying levels of sadism.

Right now in the one I had the arabs tried screwing with me for no reason since day one. They caused me some heat and slowed my downing of Rome and the Mongols(they were first for picking a fight.) I just finally nailed the arabs who kept hiding out making new bases like wimps. I've got it where I can now research the Manhattan project, and have like 10+ cities now due to making like 4 and conquering the rest and they're mostly on making wonders. Rome is right on this funnel point where the damn Japanese and Egyptians are holding up. Both have been sweet to me so I've had good peace for a good eon there. It won't last...when I pick it up tomorrow I'm going to wax the egyptians since they have a little bit better tech and a lot larger chunk of dirt to take. I have them surrounded with two cruisers loaded each with 6-8 rifleman and sherman tank units and I have seen 2 very large cities so far. Japan has 4 in a small area, but they got a decent navy so I'm not getting nuts. I have them under watch with a sub I earned, and I'm moving a battleship over as well to prep a blockade. I intend to pick off the farther Egyptian spot Thebes first, then I'll sweep north and take out El Amara and if they're not hiding something I need to eye spot run into they're done.

This game has some depth and on stage2 I took quite a few beatings on taking places, and also at one point nearly lost a town or two.

This really is the full civ experience just with all the inside the map of the city screen micromanaging minimized and you don't need to keep active settlers around to do roads, mine, and irrigation as it's taken care of (except roads which you use gold to make in 1 turn.)

 

[CPhantom]

I was pretty upset with this game...I thought it was going to be pretty great! It turned out to be MURDERED on the DS, but on the systems it is awesome. They just took the game, watered it down, and then ripped it up into pieces with a chainsaw.

Now, it was alright...but me...not a fan of how it played out.


I need the Wii version >.>;;;