Hello, Gbatemp, I have an interesting question for all of you. Can the Pokemon Shuckle be used efficiently in competitive play in Pokemon Black and White? I considered his PoisonRest moveset, which would be: Toxic Encore Rest Protect (Sturdy) Holding Leftovers with his EVs maxed out in DEF (252) and HP (252). Alternatively his HP EVs can go to SP DEF or be split between the two. In this setup he can just toxic a Pokemon until the die, with proper prediction he can time it so a move which can be useless gives him prime opportunity to rest. This is a classic Shuckle stratagy I find hard to beat. Also to help him out, I would have a sandstorm set up prior to his entry so he get's his SP DEF boost on top of that. Wrap Toxic Mud Slap Rest (Sturdy) Holding Chesto Berry with his EVs maxed in DEF and HP, set up with Sandstorm. Here I would just spam Mudslap after wrapping and Toxic so they can't escape and their accuracy will fall to BS levels. Rest, rinse, repeat. I was trying to find the best way to use Shuckle with that new Dream World ability, Contrary. it makes it so all stat changes work in reverse... so if his DEF is lowered, it actually goes up instead, etc. Any ideas? Maybe use Power Split to cut the opponent's attack (and drop my own, but does not matter because I wouldn't really be attacking). What are some other useful ways to use Power Split with Shuckle? I would like to hear Gbatemp's thoughts on the matter. the people at Smogon etc. are all douches. I really would like to use Shuckle (he has always been one of my favorites) and I want some advice.