[Rumour] 3DS relaunch next year w/ second analog + new name

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After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
 

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awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.
 

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machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
 

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the more I think about this, the more screwed over I feel. I hate rumors like this
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The reason why the 3DS never included a 2nd analog stick was plainly explained by Nintendo. There is no room for it, and the one on the left takes the full depth on that spot of the device, so no, just because there's nothing on the surface below the ABXY buttons doesn't mean there isn't anything underneath that spot in the device.

Parents unconvinced that the 3D effect is harmless? Parents uninformed about parental controls, which seems to be on most devices nowadays....

The DSLite, released 1 1/2 years after the DSphat, made no major changes in terms of device functionality. This rumor suggests major changes, insomuch that anyone who bought an early revision would luck out. Considering Nintendo's stance of early adopters as shown by the free 20 VC games, charging early adopters any money on something as important as a 2nd analog attachment, which would definitely affect game designs, goes against that stance. The DSi had major changes, but that was also 4 years after the DSphat was released.

It was always said that while it boasts the 3D effect (and is repeatably focused because very few devices actually have that feature), developers were never forced to use it in the first place.
 

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I say 100% false. All games up til that date will not support dual analogs. It would be futile to add it later on and why does it really need it anyway? The controls on the current unit are perfectly fine.

A third relaunch within 2 years? Some writer must be getting bored.

I call BS on the entire article.
 

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A right analog stick? On a Nintendo console? Ew no. Nintendo's games have never had to have a second analog stick. The camera ai in Mario games and most recently, OoT 3D, is remarkable. I say keep the second analog off. People need to stop bitching.
 

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SonicXXXthehedgehog said:
the more I think about this, the more screwed over I feel.
Me too. At first I was really skeptic and thought BS, but now I can't help to look at my 3DS and feel bad.

I seriously hope this isn't true but it sounds Nintendo-ish, maybe they pull-off a DSi-like console and make exclusive games for it that use both slide pads. It doesn't sound so good and I really hope all of this is BS.
 

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BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.
 

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machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.

Yes it would suck that you would need to buy an extra peripheral, but that does not stop the developers from creating the games to support the original 3DS layout. And i would much rather purchase a $10 peripheral than a whole new system.
 

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DiscostewSM said:
Parents unconvinced that the 3D effect is harmless?


IMHO that right there is the #1 thing that has hurt 3DS sales. And I'm 44 years old and the parent of an 8 year old ... I hear my peers spouting ignorance every day at work, and this topic has come up. My generation is (unfortunately) dropping a huge collective 'meh' when it comes to 3D display, whether it be in films, video games, etc., and its showing in the marketplace. And, yes there's the 'not with my baby's eyes' thing. (And, there may be something to it ... my 8yo daughter can handle the 3D, but she doesn't like it at all. Om the other hand, I have it on all the time.)

Anyway, this rumor has ot be bullshit. And while it may not be true of 3rd party titles, if you think about it Nintendo hasn't ever been real big on dual analog controls. Even on Gamecube which had the second stick, Nintendo's 1st party titles didn't use it a whole lot. (That I can remember, anyway)
 

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BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.

Yes it would suck that you would need to buy an extra peripheral, but that does not stop the developers from creating the games to support the original 3DS layout. And i would much rather purchase a $10 peripheral than a whole new system.
So you're saying you'd rather buy a $10 peripheral that would have low support by devs than have a new system with a new name, analog stick, and likely a bunch of other improvements such as battery life at likely the same price as the 3DS is now and increased likeness of increased 3DS sales?
 

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machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.

Yes it would suck that you would need to buy an extra peripheral, but that does not stop the developers from creating the games to support the original 3DS layout. And i would much rather purchase a $10 peripheral than a whole new system.
So you're saying you'd rather buy a $10 peripheral that would have low support by devs than have a new system with a new name, analog stick, and likely a bunch of other improvements such as battery life at likely the same price as the 3DS is now and increased likeness of increased 3DS sales?
If it means that the system I purchased less than a month ago, that came out 4 months ago, will become a brick that has to go through some crap snail mail order, in order for me to play games that I expected I would be able to play from the get go? Yes, yes I would
 

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SonicXXXthehedgehog said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.

Yes it would suck that you would need to buy an extra peripheral, but that does not stop the developers from creating the games to support the original 3DS layout. And i would much rather purchase a $10 peripheral than a whole new system.
So you're saying you'd rather buy a $10 peripheral that would have low support by devs than have a new system with a new name, analog stick, and likely a bunch of other improvements such as battery life at likely the same price as the 3DS is now and increased likeness of increased 3DS sales?
If it means that the system I purchased less than a month ago, that came out 4 months ago, will become a brick that has to go through some crap snail mail order, in order for me to play games that I expected I would be able to play from the get go? Yes, yes I would
Do you think they'd really be that stupid even if this were true? They'd likely allow you to exchange it, and since this is a relaunch/redesign rather than a new iteration, I'd suspect that it would cost little to no money at all to do so.

The downside? Nintendo would lose money unless they found a way to synthesize 3DS' and sell them at a profit elsewhere.
 

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machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.

Yes it would suck that you would need to buy an extra peripheral, but that does not stop the developers from creating the games to support the original 3DS layout. And i would much rather purchase a $10 peripheral than a whole new system.
So you're saying you'd rather buy a $10 peripheral that would have low support by devs than have a new system with a new name, analog stick, and likely a bunch of other improvements such as battery life at likely the same price as the 3DS is now and increased likeness of increased 3DS sales?

I should have explained better. What I am saying is, the 3ds is barely a half-a-year old, and in my opinion, a relaunch would be a bad idea so early. I would very much like to see a 3DS with improvements, but i highly doubt it will be the same price. They should wait, release the big titles like Luigi's Mansion 2 and Super Mario 3D Land, and gain buyers first. THEN release a new system at least a year and a half later. A $10 peripheral would not bother me that much, and they could even release a new battery for free with exchange of the old one that the owners could change themselves.
 

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Dragging the 3DS along with/alongside a redesigned model would be a disaster. They did it once, and it didn't work (the Gameboy Micro). If Nintendo is not selling enough, and does not think they will, I have full faith and confidence that they WILL release another handheld, from the ground up. Add-ons don't sell, and don't get supported. If that is where they feel the problem is, they will make something new, not release an add-on. Plus, what HANDHELD has ever, EVER, had an add-on with this level of....NECESSITY? (Yes, I know the Gameboy Classic had the camera and the printer, the GBA had the card reader/eReader thing, and the PSP had the eye, but all of them just go to show that HANDHELD ADD-ONS DON'T SELL!)

As for excitement or disappointment over something new: meh. Honestly, I have enjoyed my 3DS immensely and even if the only titles that come out for it are the ones that are currently out and the handfull that I can't wait for (Mario Kart, Super Mario Land 3D, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Heroes of Ruin, Starfox 64 3D) I will be happy. I know I will buy the next thing Nintendo releases and I'm not foolish enough to lie or implicate otherwise (just like I will be day 1 purchasing a Vita and a WiiU).

And both of those pictures from 3DSBuzz were out before the 3DS was officially revealed, they are just using old content. Do a search: there were some great concept mock-ups before the underwhelming design was released. Many designs that show the feasability of dual analogs in the current(ish) form factor.
 

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machomuu said:
SonicXXXthehedgehog said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.

Yes it would suck that you would need to buy an extra peripheral, but that does not stop the developers from creating the games to support the original 3DS layout. And i would much rather purchase a $10 peripheral than a whole new system.
So you're saying you'd rather buy a $10 peripheral that would have low support by devs than have a new system with a new name, analog stick, and likely a bunch of other improvements such as battery life at likely the same price as the 3DS is now and increased likeness of increased 3DS sales?
If it means that the system I purchased less than a month ago, that came out 4 months ago, will become a brick that has to go through some crap snail mail order, in order for me to play games that I expected I would be able to play from the get go? Yes, yes I would
Do you think they'd really be that stupid even if this were true? They'd likely allow you to exchange it, and since this is a relaunch/redesign rather than a new iteration, I'd suspect that it would cost little to no money at all to do so.
Hence the crap snail mail order part
 

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BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
BLBLB said:
machomuu said:
awssk8er said:
After reading the comments on Nintendo3DSblog... it kinda makes sense.

Kid Icarus is coming out... and lefties get pretty f*cked, so they make an analog pad that covers ABXY. This way, lefties don't get screwed, there are no new games that use this "second analog pad" screwing over people that don't have the $10 add-on, and it's not even required for games.

I think it makes sense... Only thing is that it would only be used for certain games, and the 3DS probably cannot close with the add-on attached.
I suspect that it'd probably replace the 3DS, not sell alongside it.

Replacing the 3DS is such a bad idea... Nintendo really dug themselves into a deep hole. I think if anything, another piece will be sold as an attachment.
That is an awful idea from a economical standpoint. Most people don't buy very many peripherals, and not only that but that would mean games that require it would be exclusive to those who bought this peripheral.

Yes it would suck that you would need to buy an extra peripheral, but that does not stop the developers from creating the games to support the original 3DS layout. And i would much rather purchase a $10 peripheral than a whole new system.
So you're saying you'd rather buy a $10 peripheral that would have low support by devs than have a new system with a new name, analog stick, and likely a bunch of other improvements such as battery life at likely the same price as the 3DS is now and increased likeness of increased 3DS sales?

I should have explained better. What I am saying is, the 3ds is barely a half-a-year old, and in my opinion, a relaunch would be a bad idea so early. I would very much like to see a 3DS with improvements, but i highly doubt it will be the same price. They should wait, release the big titles like Luigi's Mansion 2 and Super Mario 3D Land, and gain buyers first. THEN release a new system at least a year and a half later. A $10 peripheral would not bother me that much, and they could even release a new battery for free with exchange of the old one that the owners could change themselves.
As I said, this is a redesign and not a new iteration, and as such, if it were to be released late then there would be a crapload more people with 3DS, a crapload of sails that "could have been" and more, a crapload more 3DS that need to be replaced. Also, if they do it late then fewer 3DS devs will support it's new features than those that would have if it had been released early, thus making it an almost inevitable bomb.
 

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RisnDevil said:
Dragging the 3DS along with/alongside a redesigned model would be a disaster. They did it once, and it didn't work (the Gameboy Micro). If Nintendo is not selling enough, and does not think they will, I have full faith and confidence that they WILL release another handheld, from the ground up. Add-ons don't sell, and don't get supported. If that is where they feel the problem is, they will make something new, not release an add-on. Plus, what HANDHELD has ever, EVER, had an add-on with this level of....NECESSITY? (Yes, I know the Gameboy Classic had the camera and the printer, the GBA had the card reader/eReader thing, and the PSP had the eye, but all of them just go to show that HANDHELD ADD-ONS DON'T SELL!)

As for excitement or disappointment over something new: meh. Honestly, I have enjoyed my 3DS immensely and even if the only titles that come out for it are the ones that are currently out and the handfull that I can't wait for (Mario Kart, Super Mario Land 3D, Kid Icarus: Uprising, Heroes of Ruin, Starfox 64 3D) I will be happy. I know I will buy the next thing Nintendo releases and I'm not foolish enough to lie or implicate otherwise (just like I will be day 1 purchasing a Vita and a WiiU).

And both of those pictures from 3DSBuzz were out before the 3DS was officially revealed, they are just using old content. Do a search: there were some great concept mock-ups before the underwhelming design was released. Many designs that show the feasability of dual analogs in the current(ish) form factor.

Never saw those pics lol... anyway it is a shame handheld add-ons do not sell, because i love my e-Reader and i love my Gameboy Micro... However, if they sell the add-on with a 3DS game as a bonus (example: Legend of Zelda 4 swords for Gamecube with the GBA to Gamecube cable), then this piece could actually work.
 

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