Hacking Preloader 0.28, finally out!

[computerboy]

I'm surprised at all the support for this.

Plus I don't like that there is surely still preloader-related stuff on my NAND, irregardless of reinstalling the sysmenu wad and running the 'hack ini remover.'

I was thinking about that too. Preloader renames the system menu and takes its place. To remove preloader, you reinstall the system menu wad. But I wonder what happens to the renamed system menu. I believe it must still be there.

I thought when you install preloader it just replaced the main.dol of the system menu

 

[Don Killah]

I'm surprised at all the support for this.

From what I've seen, preloader is still just buggy in general. It gives me (minor) issues with ejecting discs, issues with reading discs from the disc channel that I can't properly explain, and glitches in the sysmenu hacks section that leave me feeling uneasy about whether or not things are actually working properly (hell, I know for a fact that I've had IOS files mysteriously get updated without rhyme or reason while running preloader)

Plus I don't like that there is surely still preloader-related stuff on my NAND, irregardless of reinstalling the sysmenu wad and running the 'hack ini remover.'

The bottom line is that I wouldn't recommend preloader to anyone. My 2 cents: stick with starfall. If you've got cioscorp, you can autoboot anything you want.... including the HBC. Yeah preloader loads 'before' the sysmenu... but I fail to see a real advantage. Go an do something stupid like uninstall a sysmenu.wad or IOS30.wad and you're fucked regardless.

*shrug*

Preloader and Starfall are the same stuff, made by the same guy and with more feature.
So how come it's buggy? I never had any error while ejecting disc or game compatibility.

Plus, it's one of the best brickproof utility outhere till bootmii comes out. Remember it's brickproof not IDIOTProof.
This said, stick to your opinions, even if you're wrong.

 

[drmarvin]

wanders:

I have to say that I have not found the issues with Preloader that you have mentioned. At least not with 0.27 and 0.28. There seemed to be some issues when I had 0.25 installed that retail discs were not always recognized by the Disc Channel if the disc was in when the Wii was turned on. Ejecting and reinserting the disc made everything work fine. The other issues you have had, I have found that the newer versions of Preloader don't seem to have such issues if you are interested. Of course, if Starfall does everything you want, there isn't much point changing that right now.

 

[computerboy]

I'm surprised at all the support for this.

From what I've seen, preloader is still just buggy in general. It gives me (minor) issues with ejecting discs, issues with reading discs from the disc channel that I can't properly explain, and glitches in the sysmenu hacks section that leave me feeling uneasy about whether or not things are actually working properly (hell, I know for a fact that I've had IOS files mysteriously get updated without rhyme or reason while running preloader)

Plus I don't like that there is surely still preloader-related stuff on my NAND, irregardless of reinstalling the sysmenu wad and running the 'hack ini remover.'

The bottom line is that I wouldn't recommend preloader to anyone. My 2 cents: stick with starfall. If you've got cioscorp, you can autoboot anything you want.... including the HBC. Yeah preloader loads 'before' the sysmenu... but I fail to see a real advantage. Go an do something stupid like uninstall a sysmenu.wad or IOS30.wad and you're fucked regardless.

*shrug*

Preloader and Starfall are the same stuff, made by the same guy and with more feature.
So how come it's buggy? I never had any error while ejecting disc or game compatibility.

Plus, it's one of the best brickproof utility outhere till bootmii comes out. Remember it's brickproof not IDIOTProof.
This said, stick to your opinions, even if you're wrong.

Maybe it's just NTSC Wiis cause I have PAL and I have no problems

 

[Don Killah]

Maybe he was using an older version (0.25) like drmarvin said.

 

[jd506]

one thing i was just thinking about..
so preloader renames the system menu and takes its place. If you want to delete preloader, you just reinstall the system menu. This will overwrite preloader. Makes sense, ok.
But what about the renamed system menu file? Is it still there then, like are there 2 copies of system menu then?

I want to know too. Because after installing preloader and then reinstalling the system menu I have atleast 1500 less blocks

Can anyone confirm ~1500 less blocks after reinstalling SystemMenu-v289.wad?

How is it possible to completely uninstall preloader and the renamed system menu?

 

[SilverSurfR]

Only way I can think of is FTPii and delete the 1000004x.app in titles/00000001/00000002 (I think that's the right directory). Seek confirmation, I would just not fuck with it. it's only like 3 MB

 

[OSW]

Does anyone know what IOS preloader runs off? (not the installer, i'm talking about the actual preloader).

Is it IOS30 like the system menu? or perhaps CIOS249?

It says in the bottom left.

It uses IOS30.

Thanks, I didn't notice that one. What i was thinking was, if I install cIOS as IOS30 (CIOS30 or whatever), will this stuff up preloader and hence my wii?...

But since i heard of people running cioscorp and preloader, I'm guessing it'd be no problem.

Not that I'm going to attempt this anyway atm.

 

[Don Killah]

Get Preloader v0.28 as a boot.dol version straight from Crediar's website:
http://crediar.no-ip.com/preloaderv0.28-cred.rar

 

[geegee]

Thanks. When I tried updating last time my wii lost connection and I had to reinstall the system menu. Nice to has a dol version.

 

[D-Jay]

Does somebody know the install code for 0.28?

 

[SanGor]

Does somebody know the install code for 0.28?

how can you be so stupid?
The code has been in the readme (.nfo) since 0.25 and this time it's not even hidden ...

 

[KiiWii]

Does somebody know the install code for 0.28?

its "1"

 

[D-Jay]

Does somebody know the install code for 0.28?

how can you be so stupid?
The code has been in the readme (.nfo) since 0.25 and this time it's not even hidden ...

Yes, you're right.
My mommy is asking me the same question every day... again and again... but I cannot answer her, cause I'm too stupid.

Sorry, flawless, all-knowing master!

 

[Don Killah]

it's the same as 0.27 no?
Try HARDLUMP
Home
A
Right
Down
Left
Up
Minus
Plus

 

[wanders]

I've been using every version since .25 . Implying that I'm an idiot because you, for whatever reason, don't experience the same issues? Yeah that's real intelligent.

Removing preloader fixes my issues. Installing it brings them back. Changing its settings (unsurprisingly) doesn't help anything, nor does messing with (or even removing entirely) the sysmenu hacks. It's an application issue. If you don't believe it, I really don't know what else to tell you. Mind you, don't think of this as a complaint or request for a fix as I really do not care. As I mentioned before, preloader gives me no advantage over starfall.

Preloader and starfall are the same stuff? The functionality of patching 'hacks' into the sysmenu may be similar, but I'm afraid the likeness ends there.

D-Jay, for .28 you just press '1' and it installs. I think.

 

[KiiWii]

Well when i installed it i tried HARDLUMP.... but nothing happened... so i pressed 1 and it installed.

 

[Don Killah]

Sorry, so it's really "1", i thought it was a joke or something.

 

[KiiWii]

:facepalm:

its 1

 

[REALDEAL]

installed this last night only got round to testing

few problems
original pal games play in black/white thru disc channel........how can i fix this ?
softchip still runs games
bk launcher wont run.

i used hacks ini creator for PAL and installed all hacks........

any idea with B/W issue..
just read the guide do i need to disable force disc region/ disc area check........ 2 fix B/W issue
in order 4 backup launcer to work do i need to install it fresh again.........