Pokémon Nova Sun & Umbra Moon: Fully-featured, challenging Sun/Moon ROMhacks!

Hylianzero · Mar 5, 2017

Kudos2u said:

Thanks this helped I got Umbra Moon now
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Glad to hear it! I just made it to Brooklet Hill, myself. It's a great time. Good luck and happy Training!

Rainr · Mar 6, 2017

Hi guys,

I'm getting a white screen after the Pokemon title screen and the house (with Pokemon Umbra Moon). I have tried it with the hotfix and without the hotfix. Pokemon Nova Sun works perfectly though. Does anyone have any idea how to solve the issue?

Thanks a lot.

Acryt · Mar 6, 2017

Hey Dios! Loving the romhack as expected May I nitpick and suggest to not make Magnemite the SP.Atk EV pokemon? The Sturdy ability really makes it slow to grind on.

Also, Koni store with dawn/dusk stone doesn't sell dusk stone. Sells dusk ball instead. Oops?

rcamp48 · Mar 6, 2017

Acryt said:

Hey Dios! Loving the romhack as expected May I nitpick and suggest to not make Magnemite the SP.Atk EV pokemon? The Sturdy ability really makes it slow to grind on
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Is there a fix yet for Poke Umbra Moon ?????? I hear there is a white screen on it somewhere............ rcamp48

Oh ya Dios I love your hacks , I can test new stuff for you if you want as I am up 16 hours a day on the computer and 3DS

Is there a difference between using Decrypt9wip with luma for dumping PM and PS cartridges and dumping them with Hourglass9 v 1.45 ????? I keep gettting an ope file error (I think that the batch file needs to be fixed as itputs in double \s in some spots) rcamp48

VictiniLP · Mar 6, 2017

I think the toolkit to create the cia file is broken. Whenever I try it come many errors and at the end does not create the patched / hacked cia file.

rcamp48 · Mar 6, 2017

No its not, the batch files are bad , I have fixed them all there was a few too many "\"s in all of the batch files, I believe I have a fix , a short 7z file with the batch folder and the main batch file to start things up I will upload it now, someone can test it on Sun and Moon I belive it will work, I got 1 error and that was because I had a bad cia file on both Sun and Moon you have to replace ALL of the batch files lots of errors in the batch files, I took 16 hours to correct them all..............compare the batch files in the original distro with mine and you will see the differences .............. rcamp48

VictiniLP · Mar 6, 2017

As at the beginning with the extraction of the rom (with the new batchfiles)

3dstool error: uncompress error
3dstool error: extract file failed

Created the sun.cia file with hourglass 9 from my original module

The errors are the same as before. The new batch files have brought nothing.

rcamp48 · Mar 6, 2017

well it solved most of the problems I just have to find out why it id causing an error and fix it..... check your original cia file and see if it installs , I dumped my cartridges twice and both times they were bad cias and with hourglass9 the latest version, I will use decrypt 9 on an original eshop download and try that ... I will let you know

rcamp48 · Mar 6, 2017

Try it now, I made a few changes to one of the batch files.....

evandixon · Mar 6, 2017

VictiniLP said:

As at the beginning with the extraction of the rom (with the new batchfiles)

3dstool error: uncompress error
3dstool error: extract file failed
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That's an error that makerom consistently gives despite working fine. Did the CIA build correctly?

djfender · Mar 7, 2017

BrendanBeckmann said:

I seem to be coming up with the same issue. Running the lastest possible version of Luma as of the writing of this comment.
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I'm getting the same thing as well. I've tried everything I could think of. I switched from the hourly luma and renamed the .bin (and put it in the respective titles/0004000000164800/ folder), and put it back again under the normal luma version.

I've retransferred and overwritten the files quite a few times over ftp.

Still showing a black screen/no logo change.

I'm starting to think the last thing to try is a computer > sdcard transfer straight from the computer to the card, instead of an over-wifi transfer. However I won't be able to try this for a few days.

wish I could compile a .cia but I'm on a mac.

Any ideas besides that?

SahierKHLover · Mar 7, 2017

djfender said:

I'm getting the same thing as well. I've tried everything I could think of. I switched from the hourly luma and renamed the .bin (and put it in the respective titles/0004000000164800/ folder), and put it back again under the normal luma version.

I've retransferred and overwritten the files quite a few times over ftp.

Still showing a black screen/no logo change.

I'm starting to think the last thing to try is a computer > sdcard transfer straight from the computer to the card, instead of an over-wifi transfer. However I won't be able to try this for a few days.

wish I could compile a .cia but I'm on a mac.

Any ideas besides that?
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MrAsher · Mar 7, 2017

Where is the ditto that can be traded?

rcamp48 · Mar 8, 2017

I have been asked not tto post fix files here so I have removed them. Dio will have to test my changes himself.....rcamp48

Dio Vento · Mar 7, 2017

Jayc said:

Beat the E4, so I'll give my impressions on it for now. Note that this is only for the Expanded build, since I only played that.

The Totem battles were mostly very well done. Hilariously, the Yungoos one was much easier compared to the Team Skull grunt battle inside the trial area, with that Grudge Shedinja paired with the boosting Whirlipede. The Yungoos and Wishiwashi battles could probably stand to be a bit harder somehow.

Most of the single battles were still susceptible to the same problem of the Pokemon AI as a whole, i.e. the lack of switching against very unfavourable matchups making it very easy to setup boosts and sweep their entire team. This is no fault of the mod, but a few circumstances made it somewhat easier. The first is the very early availability of the TMs for Reflect and Light Screen, which can be purchased as soon as you reach the 2nd island. This is in contrast to XY, where Reflect and Light Screen TMs were available only postgame, and ORAS, where they were available in Lilycove City, which is a bit over halfway into the game. Reflect and Light Screen makes it easy for the player to set up on the opposing Pokemon by drastically cutting the amount of damage received, so being available early means that the player can start to build their team around setup earlier into the game.

Of course, in order to actually abuse Reflect/Light Screen and setup, you need Pokemon which can do the job well. And here is another aspect of NS/UM that made it easier: Rotom.

Rotom can be caught at Route 1, which is basically the start of the game and immediately upgraded to one of its appliance formes in the same area it is caught in. Even if you do not intend to cheese single battles with setup moves, Rotom is a very powerful and versatile Pokemon to be available so early into the game, having stats comparable to a fully-evolved starter, extremely strong STAB moves and good defensive typing in Electric + Levitate and whatever type its particular current forme has. It is versatile in that you can easily swap its typing and STAB move anytime by going to Kukui's Lab. But more importantly, it has very good defensive stats and can learn both Reflect and Light Screen. Later on, it can learn Volt Switch (Mt. Hokulani), which can be paired with minimum speed to allow your setup Pokemon to switch-in at full health, and Will-o-Wisp (Konikoni City), which is amazing for neutering non-fire, non-Guts physical attackers. Its STAB moves are also perfect for abusing Z-Crystals as they have high base power but many drawbacks that Z-Crystals nullify.

Personally, while I think Rotom is a bit broken to be available at the start of the game, I really enjoyed using it since it was a very strong glue to the team, having crazy high stats at the start of the game and later on, Will-o-Wisp support along with Levitate to cripple all the Earthquake users that would otherwise hurt a lot of setup sweepers. It should probably be moved elsewhere, Thrifty Megamart would be thematic but pretty late into the game and Pokemon that are found late into the game are often not very useful.

And that leads me into the biggest gripe I had with the Expanded build, though it's not entirely the fault of the mod itself. That is, the move relearner in SM has been moved all the way to the Pokemon League, which is basically the end of the game. This was probably done because the move relearner was changed to be capable of teaching a Pokemon any move it can learn via level-up, including moves it would learn at higher levels. The problem is that because of the higher level curve, you will encounter a lot of Pokemon at very high levels, which locks them out of a big part of their learnset. This was not an issue in Rutile Ruby/Star Sapphire because the move relearner was in Fallarbor Town, which was pretty early into the Hoenn, but it's pretty annoying in Nova Sun/Umbral Moon when your teambuilding choices are rather limited because wild Pokemon can't learn a lot of moves they should be able to until you reach the Elite Four.

The team I used to beat the Elite Four ended up being Rotom-W/Porygon-Z/Tyrantrum/Gyarados/Flygon/Pyukumuku. The strategy used was to simply set-up screens and maybe burn the opponent, then switch to the appropriate sweeper, setup and oneshot everything. All of my setup sweepers had some way to boost Speed to solve the problem of trainer Pokemon now having speed EVs, with Porygon-Z using Z-Conversion while the rest used Dragon Dance. Tyrantrum was chosen because it learned Stealth Rock, which meant it could sweep without being stopped by Sturdy and Focus Sash. Gyrados was the setup sweeper against special attackers because Tyrantrum had terrible SpD and would die to special attacks even with Light Screen. Flygon was to setup on Electric-types, which caused problems for Gyrados. Porygon-Z was the backup sweeper for all other cases, though it usually ended up being the most consistent setup sweeper. Pyukumuku was there solely to check opposing setup sweepers with Unaware + Toxic/Recover/Soak/Protect stalling but I didn't use it in the Pokemon League because none of the Elite 4 used setup moves with their first Pokemon. The most annoying thing was the Skarmory with Whirlwind that I had to kill with Rotom first, but otherwise the rest of the Elite 4 was swept rather easily.

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Thank you for the feedback! Rotom is, in retrospect, completely busted where I put it. In v1.1, it's moved to the Thrifty Megamart Abandoned Site and Espurr takes its place on Route 1.

Dio Vento · Mar 7, 2017

Updated to v1.1. Hotfix removed from OP since the changes in the hotfix are now included in the downloads.

PedroKeitawa · Mar 7, 2017

I have to say i really love your project...the bunch of eletric type, the tall grass close to the professor kukui lab, almost kill my ledyba and rowlet ma for now i have encounter no moment when i can say "This is bullshit". I very look foward for the end game and in hope to find something for replace ladyba becouse i don't think is gonna last forever untill the end game.

PR3D4TOR · Mar 7, 2017

Thanks for making this.

I am getting an infinite loading screen when i load up Moon (the 3ds screen, it does not freeze)

EDIT: So i can just update the game to 1.1 directly after trying to launch it? I am using the saltysd version but i think i have not updated it yet so this might be the problem? I can play the other Sun/Moon hack with saltysd Method but not this one so i think the update is the problem.

Hublah · Mar 8, 2017

So whenever i finish the setup, It says that the new .cia has been created, but theres nothing there, ahah.

rcamp48 · Mar 8, 2017

Dio Vento said:

Updated to v1.1. Hotfix removed from OP since the changes in the hotfix are now included in the downloads.
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I have imported everything to my 4TB Mega cloud, however I an NOT sharing the links, I also donated $20.00 US Thanks for such a good hack.... rcamp48

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