Noob Question: What is a scene release rom?

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  1. Ichigo1000
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    I'm assuming it just means a ROM that is released to the public, is that it? I'm wondering, because a user on a ROM website listed links to roms, and says that all his releases are "scene".
     
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    Basically, a "scene release" for any kind of software is a release of a piece of software by a group known to be trusted, usually with security bypassed, if necessary. Scene groups have been around since the earliest form of the publicly accessible internet. In short, it's a rip of commercial software by a group that's earned a "trusted" following. The alternative from scene releases, would be random users uploading a copy of the software that they personally ripped.
     
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    On the particular rom site that I believe you're talking about, usually "scene" translates to ".cia" which is basically a title that you can download (using CFW or Gateway). Like an eshop game. This is opposed to the .3ds titles that play on the red Gateway card or Sky3ds like physical games.

    So if you download a .cia, know that's something you need to install to your system using a title manager and if you get a .3ds you need a flash cart to play it.
     
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    nope, i checked, it's a 3ds file
     
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    Scene releases are exactly what is stated in the name, it's a release of software given to the public by a group of pirates.. They are 99% of the time perfect with no errors.
     
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    I think youre a bit off there
     
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    He's way off lol
     
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    Scene releases:
    • have the name of the group that obtained and digitized it, in the game's folder name.
    • are split into small .r01, .r02, .r03, etc or .001, .002, .003, etc files.
    • come with a .nfo and a .sfv file, for information and for verifying the integrity of the files.
     
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    not always, although they should but a lot of sites just repack them

    but basically as others have said, a scene release comes from a group of trusted dumpers who *generally* dedicated to getting releases up first, getting content early, or bypassing copy protection, and less common now days, but some groups used to specialize in game rips (making the game smaller using compression techniques or ripping out "non-essential" parts such as FMV's or alternate language options) with internet getting faster and storage mediums being cheaper most game ripping groups have moved onto other things maybe other groups that focus on getting out "pure dumps" etc

    basically a scene release is a release that is more trusted/reliable, and follows a certain set of rules, such as those listed above (using only specific naming patterns and specific compression settings to bring a level of conformity to releases rather than every game using different settings, compression programs etc)

    non scene group releases or fake scene releases (people uploading a game under the name of a scene group) has in the past led to people having consoles bricked (see dsbricker), garbage downloads, or incorrectly ripped games resulting in crashes, although the vast majority of non scene rips are good, you should always be cautious with where you find stuff that your going to run on your system
     
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    Oringinal untouched scene releases always come with sfv and nfo files, will be packed as smaller rar files, and will always follow specific naming rules (Packing compression and naming is dependent platform to platform, alot have rulesets that the groups get together and make or 1 top group sets rules and expects rest to follow suit) there where also diz files when zips where used, this is because all scene releases originate on ftp sites and like said above, sfv is used for integrity purposes and the nfo is for release information, "couriers" race releases from site to site against each other, and even the ftps have a heirarchy, With multiple Tiers, They normally Originate at Group HQs after being sent from a site they Pre-release from or even just release from the HQ, Release is announced in the form of Site Echos and from from there they are raced around other sites, to archives etc, then slowly filter down to the more insecure part of the network, sites where people sell slots on the ftps, where they send out to seedboxes etc, and then you get the filter down to torrents and cyberlockers
     
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    That's a good summary of what happens.

    Generally scene releases are preferrable because they are almost guaranteed to be problem-free, and they follow set rules which ensures consistent quality. Usually for a 3DS game dump it doesn't really matter though. To my knowledge, every nonscene dump (and even many of the scene dumps) is dumped using the Gateway launcher, and that does a pretty good job at dumping, so there shouldn't be any inconsistencies. .cia dumps/converts are a different matter though, because there are so many different tools to do it, some better than others, but there are few scene releases of those anyway.
    In this case, the main difference is that scene dumps, as this guy mentions, originate from a site FTP, whereas nonscene dumps are uploaded directly to a torrent site or forum from the guy who dumped it or someone he knows. And scene dumps come with a .sfv file that allow you to verify that the dump is untouched/not corrupted.
     
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    Teams can release there roms any way they like really. They include an nfo file to read for specific instructions and most scene releases are pirated
     
  13. Ericzander

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    Oppsie. I should stop coming here at 1 AM. :) Oh well, everything after the first half of the sentence is right... Just irrelevant to the question.
     
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    aka iND or independent releases
     
  15. DSpider

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    Most scene releases are pirated? Hahaha. ALL scene releases (at least for the 3DS) are pirated. There aren't scene releases of homebrew, for example, and even if there were, they were still made with Nintendo's SDK, APIs and sys files for compatibility, which is copyright infringement since the big N doesn't just give them for free. Those dev kits cost between $2,000 to $10,000, depending on the size of your team.
     
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    No shit captain obvious....
     
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    I just thought it was funny when he said that "most" scene releases are pirated.