Hacking Nintendont

[blinkzane]

well I guess I started something....lol Just gonna say that there was a period well I fell off the face of the earth between the Wii and Wii U. I either missed whatever the hell devolution is, or I wasn't around for it.

 

[metroid maniac]

well I guess I started something....lol Just gonna say that there was a period well I fell off the face of the earth between the Wii and Wii U. I either missed whatever the hell devolution is, or I wasn't around for it.

Dios MIOS and Dios MIOS Lite are Gamecube-mode solutions for running backed-up Gamecube games from an SD card or USB drive.
Devolution achieved the same thing in Wii mode, and because of this was able to implement features like Classic Controller support. However, it cannot be used on the Wii U because of antipiracy measures.
Nintendon't aims to be the same, but able to run on the Wii U.

 

[Antonio Ricardo]

Dios MIOS and Dios MIOS Lite are Gamecube-mode solutions for running backed-up Gamecube games from an SD card or USB drive.
Devolution achieved the same thing in Wii mode, and because of this was able to implement features like Classic Controller support. However, it cannot be used on the Wii U because of antipiracy measures.
Nintendon't aims to be the same, but able to run on the Wii U.

Ok, but without antipiracy to be clear.
Crediar didin't say anything about antipiracy on Nitendon't and WIIU can't read gamecube disks.
I sold my Wii and bought a WIIU and will be amazing to play Nes, Snes, Mega Drive, N64, Neo Geo, Gamecube, WII, and WIIU games on WIIU.
XONE and PS4 won't have retrocompability and Nintendo just have to launch more Wiiu Games quickly.

 

[Rydian]

It might work with a disc expander adapter, but AFAIK nobody has tried that yet on a Wii U, only on a Family Wii (which worked BTW).

Check that thread again, IIRC they did try and it just spit it back out. They opened their Wii U up and found there were different drive differences than they thought.

do all gc games work?
if not, is there a list or can someone tell me what games are currently working?
(sry if something like it is said before and i have overseen it)

It's still in a very early stage. It is far from release.

 

[kp_centi]

Check that thread again, IIRC they did try and it just spit it back out. They opened their Wii U up and found there were different drive differences than they thought.

It's still in a very early stage. It is far from release.

It does not spit it out. It just can't read it, because the app is not for vWii. Also I believe it's because AHBPROT has not been worked out totally yet.

 

[Nintendo Maniac]

...I just lost a bit of respect for crediar today. All my comments mentioning Devolution have been deleted and someone else flat out accused me of being a troll. All I had stated was the following:

Already exists, Google the following:

Wii Devolution

That's literally all I said. One commenter was even thankful for me pointing it out to him since he specifically was asking about running on a normal Wii.

I would normally just go "lol YouTube comments" at the troll accusation, but the fact that my comments actually got deleted... that's not cool.


I'm starting to get the feeling that there's some tension between crediar and tueidj and that I missed some kind of memo about it...

 

[Walker D]

I would normally just go "lol YouTube comments" at the troll accusation, but the fact that my comments actually got deleted... that's not cool.

Did you send him a message before getting angry about it here? ....cause mistakes happen sometimes, you know

 

[Nintendo Maniac]

Did you send him a message before getting angry about it here? ....cause mistakes happen sometimes, you know

If I sounded angry then the internet has failed at conveying emotions yet again! I was feeling disappointed and slightly depressed, not angry.

And no I didn't message him because I figured his YouTube inbox is flooded.

 

[BIFFTAZ]

nvm, Cant be bothered.

Delete.

 

[slingblade1170]

Is there any word on Nintendon't's release? Also, has it been said if it will support the gamepad controls or Wii U pro controller?

 

[Walker D]

If I sounded angry then the internet has failed at conveying emotions yet again! I was feeling disappointed and slightly depressed, not angry.
And no I didn't message him because I figured his YouTube inbox is flooded.

even though, it's worth the shot of giving him the right of reply somehow, before complaining around, I guess (it's what I would do at least...)

About the emotions, maybe use some smiles next time I guess ( this way a slightly depressed mood would be more obvious )

 

[Nintendo Maniac]

I know you edited it to say "can't be bothered" but to clarify, yes, my disappointment is only due to the post deletion - the troll comments was from someone else.

 

[Rydian]

Is there any word on Nintendon't's release?

Yes.

It's still in a very early stage. It is far from release.

 

[[Truth]]

Nintendo Maniac: Please don´t fill up this thread with useless drama.

And also please don´t always compare Nintendont, an app that is in early beta phase, with Devolution, an app that is public since a year and had numerous revs. since then. It´s getting annoying.
Thanks

 

[markehmus]

Nintendo Maniac: Please don´t fill up this thread with useless drama.

And also please don´t always compare Nintendont, an app that is in early beta phase, with Devolution, an app that is public since a year and had numerous revs. since then. It´s getting annoying.
Thanks

i think Nintendon't is very appealing , and shows great promise , i would love to hear more about installation , how it works , release date , and if there is going to be a donations thing ... all respect where due on this stand alone project

Spoiler: but adding to the drama...

i was starting to think that *COUGH*Nintendo Maniac*COUGH* is trying to hijack this and or advertise for devolution instead of discuss Nintendon't .
and wonder how he would think that we would think anything else, after going through this thread and seeing the devolution adverts here and in the youtube video comments.

... i'm kind of feeling disappointed and on my way to angry due to the tension Nintendo Maniac is bringing to the table as if he was 'stirring the pot' with lack of respect for this project by trying to diminishing it by comparison and speculate rivalry between two pronounced coders

Spoiler: tendencies

Hasn't stopped Devolution which has super-preliminary USB keyboard and mouse support. (I myself have never gotten it to work though)

Kind of. vWii can take advantage of 3 cores, but at the Wii clockrate. Other than that they're the same, which is why I gave the example of Devolution being able to implement extra controller functionality on a normal Wii.

*COUGH*Devolution*COUGH*

Yeah yeah I know about the lack of AP in NintenDon't, but this is about the underlying technical-ability of running GC games in Wii mode is it not?

Indeed let's not. Like I said:

Though from my knowledge Devolution and NintenDon't are actually doing things a bit differently. To use PC comparisons, I believe Devolution took the WINE approach while NintenDon't is taking the VMware approach.

That makes me wonder if NintenDon't will also have performance increases in certain games that Devolution has...

Like I said, I'm pretty sure NintenDon't is a virtual machine, not a compatibility layer. Even then, Devolution IS a compatibility layer and it works flawlessly with most games.

...I just lost a bit of respect for crediar today. All my comments mentioning Devolution have been deleted and someone else flat out accused me of being a troll. All I had stated was the following:

Already exists, Google the following:

Wii Devolution

That's literally all I said. One commenter was even thankful for me pointing it out to him since he specifically was asking about running on a normal Wii.

I would normally just go "lol YouTube comments" at the troll accusation, but the fact that my comments actually got deleted... that's not cool.

I'm starting to get the feeling that there's some tension between crediar and tueidj and that I missed some kind of memo about it...

If I sounded angry then the internet has failed at conveying emotions yet again! I was feeling disappointed and slightly depressed, not angry.

And no I didn't message him because I figured his YouTube inbox is flooded.

 

[Nintendo Maniac]

Just an FYI, I haven't run away, I'm trying to let bygones be bygones since drama is the last thing I want to see happen.

As you may be able to tell from the YouTube comment incident, I don't handle drama directed at me very well at all. Even in "real life" I usually try to keep myself emotionally detached from any of my social interacting due to situations just like these but I accidentally slipped and "done goofed".

I will say though, as for my supposed "Devolution agenda", it just keeps seeming to me that there are people that don't know about it, and the YouTube comment I originally replied to even confirmed this.

Now for a serious question - since it seems that talking about Devolution is the wrong way to go about things, should I just stop mentioning Devolution to people at all? I can even remove my signature if that'd help since wifi logging no longer seems to be that useful anymore.

 

[Rydian]

It's mainly that you're going "this year old program supports it why won't this beta that has existed for maybe two weeks total and doesn't even run 10 games past the tuitle screen???? i meen controls are important!!".

 

[Nintendo Maniac]

Are you referring to the USB keyboard & mouse thing? I thought we finished that discussion a while ago - heck I had forgotten all about it until your post confused me to the point that I need to go back and review my posts...

EDIT: Yeah, that post was a week ago at this point and I haven't said anything about controllers and stuff since then because we've been done with that subject for a while now.

Why do I get the feeling that none of us are on the same page...?

 

[Rydian]

You were talking about what happened, so I was too.

 

[Nintendo Maniac]

But it was a legitimate concern for Family Wii owners, especially considering the following tweets from Crediar himself which is what started the whole discussion in the first place:

@nintendomaniac @NintendoWorlds Wii version will ONLY support the gamecube controller and only 1:1 button mapping.

@crediar @NintendoWorlds Wait, then what about the Family Wii which lacks GC ports?

nintendomaniac @NintendoWorlds Guess you have to use Devolution then!