So I was banned and I don't know why, I never used online hacks, only save editing. I'm on 6.0.0 and error 2124-4007.
Could I log in a new Switch with my account or is it also banned?
Could I log in a new Switch with my account or is it also banned?
First, can you kindly refer back to the first post for a form to fill out so we know what caused your ban?
Secondly, the account is most likely not banned but we're unsure if Nintendo will ban any console associated with that account or not.
Did you use/restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? N
If you cannot access the eShop, when was the last time you were able to? The day after the release of Switch online
Do you get error code 2181-4008trying to update any of your games? Y
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
SX OS used? N
Do you use EmuNAND from SX OS? N
Trimmed .XCI? N
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? N
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N/A
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? N
What do you use Non-TX LayeredFS for? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? N
Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? N
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? N
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? N
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? Y Hekate (Specify homebrew used/crashes)
Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Y
AutoRCM? Hekate
Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? N
Did you install the exFAT update offline? Y
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? N
Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? Y
Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? N
Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N
Airplane mode? N
Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? Y
Console/Account Region(s) EU
What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? PC
Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Y
I am banned
I hope I can still log with my account on another console, I have many purchases in the eshop
I think I may be banned because of the cloud save of edited save files
Last edited by XenoStarJack,
So I've just logged the first SX EmuNAND ban on the spreadsheet. However I think it is still too soon to say that EmuNAND caused this ban since its only been a day since it was released. But I will append users banned for using EmuNAND with "(EmuNAND)" next to their names.
Well we'll see how it goes. I've used SX OS since day one and started using Emunand when released. No ban yet, I guess time will tell.
About a week ago I created a backup of a cart I owned (Labo). It is the only backup I've used. Other than that I've just used homebrew/ emulators.
About a week ago I created a backup of a cart I owned (Labo). It is the only backup I've used. Other than that I've just used homebrew/ emulators.
I bought a secondhand switch and called Ninty to find out if there were any bans on it before i had recieved it, giving them the serial number. Was put on hold and when they came back a different person was on the phone basically yelling at me asking why i wanted to know if my switch was banned and the circumstances around it. She kept asking when i purchased it, why i would need to know if it was banned, why i couldn't just check it myself, why i needed to waste their time.
It was honestly the most hostile phone conversation i've ever had.
It was honestly the most hostile phone conversation i've ever had.
I'm reading the new emunand entry (superdukester), and I'm unsure how to interpret it.
They used XCIs, devmenu, and installed NSPs (marked as Y) in EmuNAND exclusively? Or did they do it in SysNAND BEFORE having used EmuNAND?
But anyway, it says they connected online with NSPs installed, so yeah, it's not conclusive.
I'm hoping to see someone with a "clean" SysNAND (except for the EMUNAND0 magic in boot1 and the nand00.bin and nand01.bin files) to start reporting their status, just so we can know if N's integrity checks in 6.0 can detect these changes, even without having explicitly coded looking for these changes specifically.
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Its the limitations of this rather simple questionnaire. If people would clarify what they did in the Additional Comments section, I'd better be able to interpret the results. Asking people whether they did X, Y, or Z in SysNAND or EmuNAND can get rather complicated (attach an E next to Y/N for EmuNAND and S for SysNAND?) and people may not remember doing what in where. However I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt as only people who know how to use EmuNAND would keep track of what they are doing and where.
EDIT: Also note he didn't clean his NAND before setting up EmuNAND meaning he left several traces in OFW which probably flagged him despite using EmuNAND. At this point, we won't have a confirmed case of EmuNAND leading to a ban unless someone specifies they restored a clean NAND before setting up EmuNAND.
Last edited by Draxzelex,
After some thought, I think "EmuNAND only" actions seems irrelevant since it SHOULD be a completely isolated environment from sysNAND.
Maybe emuNAND users should be instructed to answer the questions based on their sysNAND activity only, and only have an emuNAND tag (which is what I think you are doing now). This is me assuming any activity in emuNAND can't be detected when going back to OFW in sysNAND.
This holds up imo unless they are reckless enough to go online while running in SX OS emuNAND, then all bets are off.
EDIT: I am making lots of assumptions here, such as the user knowing to keep emuNAND offline, and going online only in sysNAND. Which some users might not know to do, I take for granted knowing that emuNAND is smaller and is obvious in NANDTotalSize telemetry (I might not even be correct and SX might be spoofing this).
Last edited by bundat,
Yeah I mean I had one user say yes to restoring a clean NAND before going online then proceed to tell me they installed DevMenu afterwards. This is also why I usually review answers before posting them. I think maybe I should rephrase the question to something like "Did you setup EmuNAND with a clean NAND beforehand?"
I'll make this offer.
I have four switches. Three with SX OS, one of which has been allowed online and doesn't have a 100% clean history (see above). But it is currently on 6.0, with AutoRCM, only six fuses, had xci files played online when on 5.1.0 (in SX OS) and even updated (in OFW), and I can still access eshop. The fourth is completely stock, only ran homebrew once to backup the NAND. So as far as Nintendo knows, it's only downloaded some free games from the eshop, played a bit of fortnite, had a couple of legit carts installed and briefly played (same carts I made the xci files from, and no I did not go online with both switches with the same game at the same time), and has been offline since just before 6.0 came out (it can connect to my wifi, but it's blocked via the router).
I'm really itching to try emunand, but am trying to hold out until 2.1 has been out about a day (just to make sure some horrible bug wasn't introduced). I think I can hold out about another week, at which point I'll probably dive in (I'd rather not, but I know my weaknesses). So, I'll offer up one switch to test. You guys pick which one.
If someone wants to donate an SX OS license, I'm willing to test it out on my virgin switch. Tell me exactly how you want me to install emunand. Do you want me to update to 6.0 first, create the emunand, then attempt to downgrade just emunand? Or perhaps create emunand while on 5.1.0, use official update to 6.0 on sysnand. AutoRCM or no? Blow fuses or no?
Or I can try the "dirty" switch that already has 6.0 on it, and that I already have an SX OS license for. Just tell me what you want me to try out, if no one else has already done it within a week, I'll volunteer to be the guinea pig.
I have four switches. Three with SX OS, one of which has been allowed online and doesn't have a 100% clean history (see above). But it is currently on 6.0, with AutoRCM, only six fuses, had xci files played online when on 5.1.0 (in SX OS) and even updated (in OFW), and I can still access eshop. The fourth is completely stock, only ran homebrew once to backup the NAND. So as far as Nintendo knows, it's only downloaded some free games from the eshop, played a bit of fortnite, had a couple of legit carts installed and briefly played (same carts I made the xci files from, and no I did not go online with both switches with the same game at the same time), and has been offline since just before 6.0 came out (it can connect to my wifi, but it's blocked via the router).
I'm really itching to try emunand, but am trying to hold out until 2.1 has been out about a day (just to make sure some horrible bug wasn't introduced). I think I can hold out about another week, at which point I'll probably dive in (I'd rather not, but I know my weaknesses). So, I'll offer up one switch to test. You guys pick which one.
If someone wants to donate an SX OS license, I'm willing to test it out on my virgin switch. Tell me exactly how you want me to install emunand. Do you want me to update to 6.0 first, create the emunand, then attempt to downgrade just emunand? Or perhaps create emunand while on 5.1.0, use official update to 6.0 on sysnand. AutoRCM or no? Blow fuses or no?
Or I can try the "dirty" switch that already has 6.0 on it, and that I already have an SX OS license for. Just tell me what you want me to try out, if no one else has already done it within a week, I'll volunteer to be the guinea pig.
I'd offer an SX OS license but I'm a dirty cheapskate. As for your dirty Switch, I'd recommend performing a factory reset to get it as clean as possible (only a clean NAND can make it 100% clean) then setting up EmuNAND. But if you can get someone to donate a license, I'd recommend burning the fuses so we know its not a fuse mismatch that may have contributed to the ban. While I doubt Nintendo is checking the fuse count (Horizon does not conduct these checks as far as I know), its another variable I'd like eliminated.
No Ban issues on my end so far, now I just whiped my NAND, and going to use ReiNX just unsure, if installing NSP is clever, since they scan for Keys/Certs no?
I also offical Updated to 6.0 now (by accident, but shouldnt matter much)
I also offical Updated to 6.0 now (by accident, but shouldnt matter much)
I'm saving for an Oculus Go and art supplies so that's where my hopeful sale is going.
Sweet... I got PS4 because of RDR2.
I'm going to check this thread to see any news about Nintendo and bans. Fuck to Nintendo so excuse me for language.
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