Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by Draxzelex, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. Ferras2

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    Well, I'll risk it, there is no difference between a Switch that can not go online for fear of being banned and one banned.

    Thank you very much!


    Another thing, supposedly the latest version of Atmosphere and ReiNX do not patchey the creport?
     
  2. Draxzelex
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    Both ReiNX and Atmosphere now use creport but creport won't help for error codes generated before you use it.
     
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  3. Ferras2

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    In my case I only boot one time in sysnand with atmosphere and another with ReiNX (both offline).

    Do you think I risk being banned?
     
  4. JeepX87

    JeepX87 GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    If you don't have error code when run CFW so you should be fine.
     
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  5. Ferras2

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    I'am noob on switch scene, when you say "error code" it is a in switch screen error ou a hidden error (in the hidden nintendo logs)?
     
  6. JeepX87

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    It is error history under setting, so they can tell if issues are related to CFW or unauthorized software, so they will be uploaded to Nintendo server for screening and alert the support if there is red flag, so they will ban if there is evidence of CFW. If you use Atmos with creport enabled, so error codes will go to SD card so it won't go in NAND.

    Also Atmos blocked telemetry report, so Nintendo relies on telemetry to determine if you use CFW or not.
     
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  7. skiddiks

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    Can Nintendo ban my console that has never had internet setup and has been in airplane mode since day 1? Someone is arguing with me that Nintendo can ban your console even if you never go online.
     
  8. Shikkichu

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    Whatever my VPN says now
    lol no, there's nothing to ban if they don't even know you have the console in the first place
     
  9. Draxzelex
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    To add onto what Shikkichu said, staying in Airplane Mode without Wi-Fi settings is like banning yourself. While one may say it is a temporary ban that you can remove at any time, I would argue the reason you are staying offline is because if you went online in your current situation with CFW and homebrew, you would risk getting banned. And you'll never find out if you're banned or not if you stay offline effectively continuing the loop of not knowing if you're banned but banning yourself because you're too afraid to check.
     
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  10. skiddiks

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    Yeah, I like to call that Shrodinger's switch. But this person wasn't arguing on a metaphorical ban, but a "nintendo has a magical way to collect telemetry without internet" ban
     
  11. Draxzelex
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    Then that person really doesn't know what they are talking about. If wireless communications were allowed in Airplane Mode, that's a sign of a defective product/service that could lead to a lawsuit.
     
  12. Excalibur007

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    I have a few questions regarding updating and banning. Please bear with me for a bit while I explain where I'm at and what my goal is.

    Background:
    - I have never installed or run any homebrew, xcis, nsps, etc. on my Switch.
    - Every game I've played on my Switch is a legitimate physical cartridge and 1 eshop purchase.
    - What I HAVE done is start into RCM last year while on firmware 4.1.0 to back up my NAND using Hekate, enable AutoRCM, and manually update to 5.1.0 (which was current at the time) so that I could download game updates. (This was before ChoidujourNX was released). I continued using the stock firmware with AutoRCM enabled.
    - My Switch is still on 5.1.0 with 5 fuses burned and has remained offline since just before the 6.0 firmware push.
    - After reading several months ago that Atmosphere blocks telemetry and prevents firmware updates from disabling AutoRCM, I decided to copy the Atmosphere files to my SD card. When I booted up, I saw the Atmosphere logo, but I don't remember anything more about it. It would have been just whatever default settings. My intention at the time was to update to the 6.x firmware, but was too uncertain about it, so I never did. I've still not gone online since the 6.0 push last year.
    - About a month ago, my wife finally turned off the Switch, so I used Hekate to boot the stock firmware again (AutoRCM still enabled).

    Where I'm at now:
    - I've collected a LOT of cartridges, but everything since early March requires a firmware update.

    My goal:
    - I want to preserve my fuses.
    - I want to avoid a ban because I still have several download codes for games and DLC that came with purchased cartridges that I need to redeem (such as Bayonetta, Resident Evil Revelations 2, etc.)
    - I want to update so I can play my more recent purchases.
    - I'd like to be able to download game updates, but I've probably missed the boat on that for now, since 8.0 is out and it sounds like I should avoid that for now.
    - I have no interest in piracy, and currently no interest in homebrew, but I do want to keep my Switch able to run homebrew in the future.

    Questions:
    - If I boot with Atmosphere, will the telemetry blocks make it safe to download game updates? Are there any custom settings that need to be set, or is the default okay?
    - Can I update the firmware online with Atmosphere running to keep AutoRCM and prevent burning fuses?
    - Should I boot with Atmosphere and do a system update from a cartridge? (I don't know if these cartridges include a firmware update, or if they're just wanting me to download if from online).
     
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  13. Draxzelex
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    I cannot say with 100% guarantee that it will be perfectly safe however I have been updating my firmware in Atmosphere with AutoRCM enabled to preserve my fuses. For game updates, I never download them while running Atmosphere. I always download them in Hekate's Stock configuration. In fact, I do everything online from Hekate's stock profile. I download the firmware updates in Stock mode then install them offline while running the CFW Atmosphere. I have been doing this for a few months and so far, I haven't been banned yet but your mileage may vary.
     
  14. Excalibur007

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    Thank you very much for the reply.
    - How do you download the firmware update, but wait to install it from Atmosphere?
    - Also, is the default Atmosphere config suitable for this or did you need to change settings in a config?
    - Is this safe to do to update to the 8.0 firmware, or do I need to wait for Atmosphere to be udpated?
     
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  15. Draxzelex
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    System updates are downloaded automatically while your console has a connection to the Internet but never installed automatically. Simply leave the console running with an Internet connection for a couple of minutes and check to see if a system update is pending which you can by trying to check your system firmware. I also didn't change any of the settings in Atmosphere. The one that preserves AutoRCM is applied automatically and cannot be disabled anyways.

    And updating to 8.0 while preserving AutoRCM will prevent you from booting the console into CFW/OFW since no bootloader can boot firmware 8.0 so might not be the best idea.
     
  16. Excalibur007

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    Thanks again for the helpful reply.
    Looks like Atmosphere was updated today, so maybe I'll get up the nerve to try updating later. :-)
     
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  17. LucioDragon

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    i just came here to update once more my report
    Banned?: Nah sis
    Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
    Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? N

    Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? N
    Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
    Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
    SX OS used? Y
    Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? N
    Trimmed .XCI? Y
    Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y
    Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
    Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
    Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.0
    What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? N
    Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? N
    Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? N
    Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? N
    Used DevMenu? N
    Installed any .NSP? N
    Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? N
    Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
    Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
    Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? OFW
    Did you ever use ReiNX? N
    Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Y SaveManager
    Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? N
    Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? N
    AutoRCM? N
    Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? N
    Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
    receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? N
    Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? N
    Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? N
    What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N
    Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? N
    Console/Account Region(s)
    What device(s) do you use to send payloads with?
    Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Y/N
    If Banned, provide proof (video preferred)
    Additional Comments

    Almost a year into this and no bans whatsoever
    just a reminder, having original games brought and played online might help to get yourself out of suspision
     
  18. Torrey187

    Torrey187 Newbie

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    I update all my games while in custom firmware mode. I just don’t open the NSPs i installed outside of the eshop while in custom firmware online. I’m still not banned and I’ve been doing this since 4.1.0.

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    What about SXOS I’ve been using that online forever and still no ban.
     
  19. Draxzelex
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    You're one person. There are hundreds if not thousands of Switch CFW users. People have both been banned and not banned for the same actions. The conclusion is that bans are random and the safest route is to either not hack or restore a clean NAND. Just because you're not banned yet doesn't mean what you are doing is safe.
     
  20. Phenjoto

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    I think i discovered a new cause dor bans. When you play any game(even on emunamd) the switchs firmware records it. When you go online, nintendo can use the hash code linked to the serial code number to ban you, as the firmware is linked to the serial code and sends the records of the games you played to nintendo, if you go online. And if you ran any illegally downloaded games (even on emunand) it is recorded on the firmware, which sends the data to the RAM, on the mother board of the switch itself. Go online, and ninty will ban you via the hashcode linked to the switches serial code.

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    May we all be able to find a way around this.
     
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