1. tova

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    I hate how much copyright law has been stretched by companies just because they dont want their products to fall under public domain. How greedy and vain can you be to make copyright so unreasonably long?
     
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    Ninquisition. Fighting against outlaws, with full force of law, in the name of a saint holly Mario the bearded one, with unholy methods, justified by the law and its followers.

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  3. yoyoyo69

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    It's common for big companies / lawyers to bamboozled, as almost everyone on the courtroom will have no understanding of these differences, dumb, but it happens and ot works.

    The source code isn't the only aspect they have also.

    Shame, one of the best games ever, but obviously Nintendo want to resell it to another couple of generations still, like most of these companies.
     
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    Why is Nintendo allowing Super Mario Bros X 2.0 to continue living when it clearly outcompetes Super Mario Maker?
     
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    Because it doesn't outcompete super mario maker..???
    Mario Maker is a level editor- SMBX is a whole fucking game engine
    2 completely different things- one just has level creation in it and the other is completely based on level creation
     
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    I wonder if these copyright claims are pointing towards a rumoured remaster of M64.
     
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    There have been a few ROM hacks in the past that were smacked down for competition with my product purposes (say translations of old games when they were set to be released on newer ones), however this is standard operations for Nintendo (plus the whole trademark really wanting to be shown to be enforced thing) so no real need or ability to read anything into it.
     
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    Okay, is anyone actually surprised from this? It's Nintendo, of course they'll take down an unofficial port of Mario 64.
     
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    So is this copyright claim attacking those that created the PC port or is Nintendo going after the filehosting sites.
     
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    Im not surprised at all, i expected this when i saw post about big nintendo leaks few days ago.
    Nintendo and other companies protect their IP's and i get that, however, the way those laws are vritten is completly different story. But i do have one thing to say, and that is that although these companies have right to sue people in this fashion that they do these days (since Iwata san passed away and Reggie left nintendoh), that doesnt mean they should be so obnoxious and aggresive about it. Nothing good comes out of aggression no matter what the reason and i personally dont care for the reason, what i care is the way some company is doing something.

    So here is company loved by many, and instead of doing this the other way they go full retard and sue people, ruin their lifes (and before you say they deserve it. no. they do not. not over a stupid kids game) ask for thousands of dollars, act as a inquisition, shutting people down, making them scared to post videos of them playing legit games etc. etc. etc.

    Anyway.... I say this many times and ill say this again. Dont you think sega has every right also to sue and shut down people enthusiasm (lets call it like that) ofc they do, just like nintendo they are a big company...a lot smaller actually they should be even more aggressive about it, but they are not. And people love them and they loose nothing actually but gain..everione does?

    It just shows true face oftodays nintendo.

    I remember nintendo being like this always, but never like it is today.

    Also, if i dont see Metroid game in years and they release shitty federation force and i want to play it, ofc imma download AM2R, and by the way its fucking better than any recent metroid games from OM till today.

    P.s. I mean not that they loose any money by this, they just do it cause they want more so..yeah. That's very telling actually.
     
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    An old saying, any publicity is good publicity.
     
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    That's good said, but that's only temporary. Also it is good but in a bad way.
     
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  13. Plasmaster09

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    For one, Metroid Prime 4 got delayed for good reason, and they already explained why.
    And I never said anything about specific quality games or games from specific series.
     
  14. frankGT

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    Nintendo sponsored the costs to make the original game, they might want to sell it, for as long as it sells, in they're current and upcoming platforms.

    This offended-lady-discourse can only come from entitled people who were never involved in a costly project they had to financially support.
     
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    Please, guys, before you get enraged over this, think about how your wishful thinking contradicts law in general.

    Being a widely beloved product does not make said product either common property or open-source, regardless of the surrounding circumstances (i.e. whether or not it still serves some purpous). That state is normally chosen by the individual or company holding the rights to it. That means if Nintendo chooses not to make their games publicly available to everyone, nobody else is allowed to as well. Are you with me so far?

    But that's what has been done. It has been done unrightfully (like in "the law doesn't approve it) and unless you guys get into politics and invent a law that legalizes piracy, settling this using lawyers (whether this happens in court or not) is a viable way to go here. You don't have to agree that it's the way to go, but you can't really do anything but tolerate it at least.

    That being said, did any of those cases actually end up ruining a person, as some of you put it, or were those things normally settled by that person agreeing to take down their work for good? I did the research and found that while Nintendo is strict at pursuing fan games and the likes, they generally stop at the "Promise you don't do it ever again and we'll leave you alone" part when it comes to fan games. This is more than fair considering that sharing game assets still is copyright infringement. Nintendo could definitely be more aggressive than they actually are. You might want to be grateful for that instead of hating on them.

    So, if you follow these three simple rules, you should get away with it.
    1 - Don't announce your work, just release it!
    2 - Release your work in a state that is as polished as it gets since you might only have one try.
    3 - As Nintendo lawyers strike, agree to take down your project, take down your project and live on knowing you did something great for the community.

    Of course, I don't take responsibility if Nintendo decides to change their minds and ruin the hell out of you for real.
     
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    Almost like all of the journalists shouldn't have plastered the story everywhere. Come on, guys...
     
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    I'd like to see the true colors of the average user who downloads whatever they feel like, how would they react if something they made was pirated?
     
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    probably would not notice it, lets see every scenario for games (checking other media would take too much time)
    1-the game was a flop and pretty much nobody bought it, people would probably not pirate it either because it is poor quality or they dont know about it
    2-the game was mildly succesful, enough so that you made back your money and maybe a little profit, if pirated copies exist they had little to no effect in hindering that
    3-the game was an absolute hit, you became rich and have enough money to not need to work for the rest of your life, if pirated copies exist, they had little to no effect in hindering that.
    you cant say all pirated copies are lost sales, because most people who do so either could not afford the original or would not have bought, not being able to afford something is not a justification for stealing if you are talking about something there is a limited supply, but games (and other digital goods) are infinitely replicable with no quality loss
     
  19. replicashooter

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    Nintendo fiercely protect their IPs. Thats why they've maintained such high standards across the decades, you dweebs.

    "Buh buh buh I wants ma Mariwarez"
     
  20. linkinworm

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