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I just got my christmas gift, a 2TB WD Elements External Hardrive to be my new wii hard drive since I filled up my old 400GB WD Passport (1 fat32, 1 wbfs).

The New Hard Drive (1 fat32, 1 wbfs):
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elem...4140&sr=8-1

The Wii USB Compatibility List: (The other WD Elements were confirmed working, so I assumed this one would be fine!)
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Index.php/USB...bility_List#2TB

I used Easeus Partition Manager to make the 1st partition 100GB FAT32 with 32k clusters and formated the rest of 1.7tb from NTFS -> RAW -> WBFS using WBFS Manager 3.0.

I copied a couple of games from my old HD onto the new one using WBFS Manager 3.0 copy (the game file sizes were bigger on the new HD than they were on the old HD) and get this error every time using USB Loader Config v60:
"WBFS Error Not a wii disc"

then I will try to boot the game and get something like

"cios(249) error (ret-1)
press any button to exit"

USB Loader GX r938 takes me back to the wii menu when I try to load a game.

I have tried to reformat the new HD using WBFS Manager 3.0 multiple times and get the same result.

I ripped one of my games from the disc to the new external HD using USB Loader Config v60 and that worked fine. Using mplayer ce to view video off the FAT32 partition also worked fine.

Some thoughts on this issue:

1. Could it just be that the games somehow got corrupt on my old HD?

2. Is there a way to fix corrupt WBFS games?

3. Maybe it is the fact I might have formatted my old HD to wbfs with wbfsTOOLv14?
Think I followed this guide:
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=146191

4. Maybe I should format the WBFS partition on the new HD to FAT32 and then back to WBFS?

5. Do I need to use clone in WBFS Manager 3.0 instead of copy?

6. Could be my cios (rev 19 with ios bse 57)?

I looked online to find a solution to this problem and found this problem mentioned before, but not answered.

Please help me here, thanks!
 

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Just format the entire drive to FAT32, create a WBFS folder, and use Wii Backup Manager to put the games onto the drive in the WBFS folder. Use Configurable USB loader as your loader.
FAT32 files are seen by windows, also.
WBFS drives CAN get corrupt, by a single game, once that happens, it screws the ENTIRE drive.

And no need to convert any existing games, Wii Backup Manager automatically converts ANY ISO, WBFS,ciso, etc....
 

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My problem is I don't want to lose all the games from my last drive which still works perfectly fine.

Is there a way for me to somehow fix this problem so these games will work on the new HD?
 

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If your referring to your old, 400GB drive, just plug it into your pc, plug in your new FAT32 formatted drive also, if you have 2 open usb ports, fire up Wii Backup Manager, find your drive 1 (your old 400GB WBFS drive), find your drive 2 (your newly FAT32 formatted 2TB drive),
then choose transfer to drive 2 all your old 400GB games directly to your new drive.
Thats how simple Wii Backup Manager works, nothing to convert, edit, scrub, etc......

....and IF your 400GB games have errors, or ARE corrupt, WBM will detect them for you......
 

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Thank you very much for the information it is greatly appreciated.

Will try this out tomorrow, hopefully I can pop back on here with some good news.

So it only takes 1 corrupt game on a WBFS partition to corrupt every other game on it also?

My friends and I have never run into this issue before and have shared a lot of games, but now it seems like my old games won't copy correctly to other drives. I plan to try to copy a game to one of my friend's hds and see if it works right.
 

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good luck, hopefully, you'll be able to get SOME games transferred without losing em all.
when a WBFS drive gets corrupt, its like the entire neighborhood of houses are bad. with FAT32, its only a single house.......
 

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Yes I have read on a bunch of web pages now that WBFS drives get corrupted a lot (sometimes by deleting a game or if multiple games use the same sectors) and there isn't much you can do to save them.

This thread says WBFS Manager 3.0 can't format WBFS correctly after 1TB:
http://wbfsmanager.codeplex.com/workitem/4192

If I can't transfer that many games, I'll just keep using the 400GB in tandem with the new 2TB. It seems like the games on corrupt WBFS drives still work properly.

I'm sure it will be a fun day for me tomorrow playing around with this.
 

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zizer said:
I do not know why fat , i use ntfs and almost all the loaders his support

Well for on thing, you can't copy wii games with your wii to your HD. So if your Wii support Backup loading from disc, fat or Wbfs could be handy.
 

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LufianGuy said:
I just got my christmas gift, a 2TB WD Elements External Hardrive to be my new wii hard drive since I filled up my old 400GB WD Passport (1 fat32, 1 wbfs).

I used Easeus Partition Manager to make the 1st partition 100GB FAT32 with 32k clusters and formated the rest of 1.7tb from NTFS -> RAW -> WBFS using WBFS Manager 3.0.

I copied a couple of games from my old HD onto the new one using WBFS Manager 3.0 copy (the game file sizes were bigger on the new HD than they were on the old HD) and get this error every time using USB Loader Config v60:
"WBFS Error Not a wii disc"

then I will try to boot the game and get something like

"cios(249) error (ret-1)
press any button to exit"

USB Loader GX r938 takes me back to the wii menu when I try to load a game.


USB Loader GX does not seem to support drives 1.5tb or larger after rev899 - They are working on it again though.
I use a 2gig NTFS drive with a small fat32 boot partition but am thinking perhaps all fat32 is better.
Make certain create all partitions as 'primary' and that you are using Hermes 222 v4, NOT v5 and GX r899

Having a WBFS partition over 900gigs is a total waste as you can only store 500 games per partition.
The average game size is 1.75gig
WBFS was great in its day but it's time to use FAT32 or perhaps NTFS
 

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Success!!

I deleted the WBFS partition in windows xp disk management to make it RAW. Then I used Easeus to make 1 900GB FAT32 partition and 1 900GB RAW partition.

I installed 2 games (one was an extracted iso off my old hd using WBFS Manager 3.0) to the FAT32 partition using the wii backup manager v0.3.5-beta1, they both worked in usb loader config v60!

Makes me think maybe my old HD isn't corrupted, it is just that WBFS Manager 3.0 can't format or deal with externals over 1TB. This information needs to be spread online for other people so they don't have to go through what I did.

Then I formatted the 900GB RAW partition to WBFS using WBFSGUI v14.3. I added the same two games to the WBFS partition using WBFSGUI v14.3, and both of those games also worked perfectly in usb loader config v60!

After these tests (so happy!), I feel like I am going to format the whole drive FAT32 now and use WBM to get all the games off my old hd onto my new one.

EDIT

I made the whole drive 1 FAT32 Partition and fired up WBM. I just got about 30 games off my old drive.

Then I noticed in options that I can choose to enable full scrubbing and can tell it to only keep the game partition.

Since all these games are WBFS scrubbed they should be fine, but I think I should enable those options for future games right?

I want my games to be as small as possible while being able to share them with friends.

Also WBM won't add the same game twice right?
 

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LufianGuy said:
it is just that WBFS Manager 3.0 can't format or deal with externals over 1TB. This information needs to be spread online for other people so they don't have to go through what I did.

is that any 1TB external? i was thinking of getting a 1tb western digital HD but if it doesn't load the games fine then i will stick with my 40gb freecom but i could really do with the extra space.
 

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Hielkenator said:
zizer said:
I do not know why fat , i use ntfs and almost all the loaders his support

Well for on thing, you can't copy wii games with your wii to your HD. So if your Wii support Backup loading from disc, fat or Wbfs could be handy.
Well, that's not true. You can rip games fine to an NTFS drive. Dimok did a great job on the library to fix that.

I do have another reason why to choose for fat: there is no ios NTFS module, so NAND emulation is gonna require a FAT drive. I'm pretty sure most (or all) loaders will support this eventually. Of course, an NTFS module can be written, but it's not ATM.
 

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jalaneme said:
LufianGuy said:
it is just that WBFS Manager 3.0 can't format or deal with externals over 1TB. This information needs to be spread online for other people so they don't have to go through what I did.

is that any 1TB external? i was thinking of getting a 1tb western digital HD but if it doesn't load the games fine then i will stick with my 40gb freecom but i could really do with the extra space.

When I formatted a 900gb partition using WBFSGui v14.3, WBFS worked fine.

I read a ticket on WBFS Manager page that said if the drive (I assume partition applies here too) is above 1TB it doesn't work.

I don't know if it will work on partitions above 1tb. WBFS is also limited to 500 games max.

Just use FAT32 or NTFS, it works better that way anyway.
 

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dexter222 said:
LufianGuy said:
I just got my christmas gift, a 2TB WD Elements External Hardrive to be my new wii hard drive since I filled up my old 400GB WD Passport (1 fat32, 1 wbfs).

I used Easeus Partition Manager to make the 1st partition 100GB FAT32 with 32k clusters and formated the rest of 1.7tb from NTFS -> RAW -> WBFS using WBFS Manager 3.0.

I copied a couple of games from my old HD onto the new one using WBFS Manager 3.0 copy (the game file sizes were bigger on the new HD than they were on the old HD) and get this error every time using USB Loader Config v60:
"WBFS Error Not a wii disc"

then I will try to boot the game and get something like

"cios(249) error (ret-1)
press any button to exit"

USB Loader GX r938 takes me back to the wii menu when I try to load a game.


USB Loader GX does not seem to support drives 1.5tb or larger after rev899 - They are working on it again though.
I use a 2gig NTFS drive with a small fat32 boot partition but am thinking perhaps all fat32 is better.
Make certain create all partitions as 'primary' and that you are using Hermes 222 v4, NOT v5 and GX r899

Having a WBFS partition over 900gigs is a total waste as you can only store 500 games per partition.
The average game size is 1.75gig
WBFS was great in its day but it's time to use FAT32 or perhaps NTFS

I have the same setup. Can you tell me if you have Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands, how you can get it to work on this drive. It require dol rev 935 to work.
 

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I couldn't get Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands to work. I noticed it's a "Region Free" product yet GX calls it pal. I messed with the video settings on game load and got it to start but it simply died after the intro. All my games are NTSC-U with a few exceptions and those are RF.
 

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LufianGuy said:
Success!!

I deleted the WBFS partition in windows xp disk management to make it RAW. Then I used Easeus to make 1 900GB FAT32 partition and 1 900GB RAW partition.

I installed 2 games (one was an extracted iso off my old hd using WBFS Manager 3.0) to the FAT32 partition using the wii backup manager v0.3.5-beta1, they both worked in usb loader config v60!

Makes me think maybe my old HD isn't corrupted, it is just that WBFS Manager 3.0 can't format or deal with externals over 1TB. This information needs to be spread online for other people so they don't have to go through what I did.

Then I formatted the 900GB RAW partition to WBFS using WBFSGUI v14.3. I added the same two games to the WBFS partition using WBFSGUI v14.3, and both of those games also worked perfectly in usb loader config v60!

After these tests (so happy!), I feel like I am going to format the whole drive FAT32 now and use WBM to get all the games off my old hd onto my new one.

EDIT

I made the whole drive 1 FAT32 Partition and fired up WBM. I just got about 30 games off my old drive.

Then I noticed in options that I can choose to enable full scrubbing and can tell it to only keep the game partition.

Since all these games are WBFS scrubbed they should be fine, but I think I should enable those options for future games right?

I want my games to be as small as possible while being able to share them with friends.

Also WBM won't add the same game twice right?

Dude! You don't know how happy I was to find your post. I had the same exact setup with the same exact issues. Got that 2TB drive for $69 at Target on Black Friday and was thinking maybe the drive wasn't compatible since I've been trying to figure out this whole thing for days. I didn't try formatting the drive using anything other than WBFS Manager yet. That was gonna be my next troubleshooting step. You'd think those WBFS Manager guys would post the 1TB limit issue on the front page of their website. That sure would save people a lot of trouble.

I'm about to follow your steps and just format the whole thing as FAT32. I might create a separate NTFS partition for all my WiiMC stuff, but I'm not sure yet. Alright, well wish me luck, I'm gonna go try to get this thing working. Hopefully I'll have as much success as you.
 

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r-win said:
Hielkenator said:
zizer said:
I do not know why fat , i use ntfs and almost all the loaders his support

Well for on thing, you can't copy wii games with your wii to your HD. So if your Wii support Backup loading from disc, fat or Wbfs could be handy.
Well, that's not true. You can rip games fine to an NTFS drive. Dimok did a great job on the library to fix that.

I do have another reason why to choose for fat: there is no ios NTFS module, so NAND emulation is gonna require a FAT drive. I'm pretty sure most (or all) loaders will support this eventually. Of course, an NTFS module can be written, but it's not ATM.

Yes but it's higly unstable in USB loader GX, and not recommended.
 

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I didn't format to fat32. I got this same drive at target on black friday. Ntfs works with configuration loader. I 'm having no problems.
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I like how it turns off the hdd once the wii is off and turns on when I power on the wii.
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