Homebrew Minecraft DS (in 3D !)

[IDaNL]

@Sir_Voe MINING

EDIT: Sir_Voe why did you replace your post with the word "delete"?

 

[Sir_Voe]

I had second thoughts about introducing irrelevant discussion.

 

[smealum]

And Smealum at the first post you posted that it has no saving capabilities, but then on what you have done so far you say that has saving, i see a contraction right there.
Heh, my bad, fixed. Thanks.

Would the best way to test the game on multiple cards not be to have a release with 'Please report bugs on this forum topic:' followed by the link to here, on the bottom of the top screen? And put the same in the download description.

My point along with most people biting our nails off waiting for a release is that we dont mind if it is glitchy or slow, we (me at least

) really just want to play the game!

And so i BEG you...please give us an update version. It will be like Aperture Labretories, testing made fun

So dont do a Glados and do release it! Please.
No, it's not that easy, it's just not how it works. I need some very specific data, and the builds I need tested are potentially unstable/dangerous for the filesystem (hopefully not, but you never know). I can't just release something like that in the wild and hope for the best; no matter how many warnings I put, most people won't read them. Same goes for that data I need, you can bet almost none of the people who try it will actually report back, and of those who do only a few will give enough detail for it to be useful.
So no, there won't be any public releases until everything's been tested and fixed, and begging's not going to change that, sorry.

On a different note: the water spreading system. Is it possible to check for bricks on each face of a water block. If water is detected, it can stop bothering to check that face ever again, but if something else is detected, it will scan it.
However, if no brick is detected, the game will create a water block on the corresponding face.
As for when it should scan for changes, i think a good idea is check if player is in proximity/close enough to actually modify a brick that would affect the water. That should reduce lag surely.

Thanks for trying to help me, but it's not that easy.

I can't go scanning all blocks every frame for something like that. Do you have any idea how slow that would be ?
The most viable option would be scanning the blocks when I stream them in, then make list them and then process them individually on a frame by frame basis. Unfortunately, this would end up requiring loads of memory and at least *some* processing power to get working. (basically what I'd be doing is a spread algorithm, so that list would by all accounts be growing exponentially)
Of course this could be solved by simply limiting how far the water can spread. But that brings another problem, how do I store such data ? I can't make the map files any bigger (well, I can't make each individual block cluster column any bigger), so I can't store any more information than I already am. An idea I had was to make different water blocks, each with a different "spreading factor" (I actually had this idea just now, as I was typing this

), this way I wouldn't need to store any extra data, but I'm not sure this would reduce the memory requirements enough in extreme situations.
So in short : maybe, I'll have to run some tests.

QUOTE(Sir_Voe @ Aug 4 2011, 02:01 AM)

I had second thoughts about introducing irrelevant discussion.

Don't worry, what you posted wasn't off topic, this doesn't have to be all serious.

I'm not sure you realize how big 1/4th of the map is though. If you mean 1/4th of the old demo's map (which is 128*128) then sure, but 1/4th of 512*512 or 1024*1024 (I could probably allow 2048*2048, but then the map files would be enormous

) is waaaaay bigger.

On another note : if you feel confident you can be a good beta tester (meaning you're not just here to try out the game before everyone else and actually are going to try to answer my questions about how well it runs on your flashcart and gather the data I need), then post your "application" in this thread. Don't forget to mention what flashcart you'll be using, maybe what firmware and size/brand of SD card (if applicable).
(better brands tend to be faster, so yeah, I do need to know

)

 

[Sir_Voe]

I would be happy to be a tester, and don't have much going on from day to day so I most likely would be able to respond to any questions promptly.

Flashcart: Supercard DSTwo
Firmware: v1.11
SD: 1GB SanDisk

No worries if I don't suit your criteria though

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[Shufflemac]

I'll give it a go.

Flashcard: Acekard 2i
Firmware: 1.8.7
SD: Class4 - 8gb Panasonic

 

[Scathraax]

I'm always down for some testing. I also seem to be good at finding weird bugs while I goof around.
So...

Flashcard: Cyclo DS Evolution
Firmware: v2.3
SD: Kingston 2GD

 

[IDaNL]

I want to help testing it:

Flashcard: DSTwo and DSTTi
Firmware: DSTwo 1.11 DSTTi 1.18
SD: 2GB Kingston, 4GB Sandisk 32GB Sandisk Class 5

 

[Nathan Drake]

Oh, I'll make my request more official:

Flash cart: Original R4 (Reproduction)
Kernel: Wood R4 v1.34
MicroSD: Sandisk 2GB

 

[Mbmax]

@smealum : I can test it in DSi mode on my iEvo if you wish to make an enhanced version later, just drop me a PM (i can read french too).

Also got some slot 2 expansion : ez 3in1 v1, v2 and plus. M3 gba expansion, 2in1 ttds expansion, eziv

 

[maxim380]

would be happy to test

Card: Supercard DSTWO
Firmware: EOS 1.11
MicroSD: Kingston 8 GB

 

[Bmcs]

I'm here to help in everything, so:

Flashcard - Acekard 2i
System - Nintendo DSi
Firmware - Akaio 1.8.7
Micro SD - Kingston 8gb class 4

 

[TheDreamLord]

I can test:
Flashcard - R4 - TTDS - TTDSi - Cyclods
System - Nintendo DS Lite
Firmware - R4 Wood 1.30 - YSMeunu 6.53 - 1.18 - B8
Micro SD - Kingston 2gb - Sandisk 4gb - Sandisk 2gb - Sandisk 2gb

 

[lucasade]

I know my cart is already owned by Nathan Drake, and you probably think I just want to play, but I'd would like to test

Flascard: R4 Original
Firmware: Wood R4 v1.33
SD: Sandisk MicroSD 2GB

I still have my old flashcart that didnt support NitroFS:
Flascard: R4 III Upgrade (R4 clone)
Firmware: Official 1.13
SD: Sandisk MicroSD 2GB

Plus, for those that like DS games but only have emulators, you may want to test it on iDeaS and DeSmumE.

EDIT:

I can test:
Flashcard - R4 - TTDS - TTDSi - Cyclods
System - Nintendo DS Lite
Firmware - R4 Wood 1.30 - YSMeunu 6.53 - 1.18 - B8
Micro SD - Kingston 2gb - Sandisk 4gb - Sandisk 2gb - Sandisk 2gb

OMG your Irish! I thought I was the only one here

 

[LDE]

I'll be happy to give testing a go

Flashcard - SCDS2, EDGE
System - Nintendo DS and 3DS
Firmware - EDGE v2.3, SCDS2 v1.11
Micro SD - EDGE 4GB Kingston, SCDS2 Kingston 8GB

 

[corenting]

Very cool project ! I can beta test it (but not, in 3 weeks, because I'm in vacation).
I have a EDGE, a Iplayer, a iEDGE, a Acekard2i, a iEvo (so I could test a DSi version in the future).
I have a DS phat, a DSi and a 3DS.
I have a sandisk 4go class 4 and a transcend 8go class 6 as microSD for them.
All my linkers are running their latest OS and the latest version of HBmenu.

I can also speak french, because i'm french

PM me if you are interrested.

 

[Wizerzak]

You probably won't accept me now that you've had all these other application but I would be more than happy to help test it. (I'm already beta testing a few other games atm as well, so I'm kinda in the mood for it over the next few weeks).

R4 Original (or 1:1 clone no-way of telling....)
Wood R4 v1.34 (I always have the latest)
2GB Micro SD SanDisk
2GB Micro SD Kingston
DS Lite

 

[smealum]

Alright everyone, thanks, I think we can stop here.

I'll be uploading a new version in a few moments and I'll send you each a link with instructions right after that, so keep an eye out for PMs.

 

[Mr.Guy]

I've got a question that may already be answered. Will there be any online functionality? BTW I LOVE what you've done with this. Really above and beyond work.

 

[lucasade]

I've got a question that may already be answered. Will there be any online functionality? BTW I LOVE what you've done with this. Really above and beyond work.

It has been suggested and I think the straight forward answer was: Not yet

Slightly too early in development to be starting servers and wifi and what not.

 

[smealum]

I've got a question that may already be answered. Will there be any online functionality? BTW I LOVE what you've done with this. Really above and beyond work.

Thanks.

Might be possible in the future, but not right now; also, if I *do* make it, it'll be a very limited version.


Anyway, PMs sent !