Hardware Mig Switch on Switch 2

[Inaki]

But that just maybe, I guess read speed could also deteriorate on original cards. Also if thats only about read speed, then that change could also be implemented on OG switch as software update to block mig switch.

Not necessarily, because switch 1's cart slot may work at lower speeds than what the carts are able to work. Similar to when you use a USB 3.0 pen drive in a USB 2.0 port or when you use a fast microSD on a slow microSD reader. Now, when the new Switch 2 cart reader works at higher speed and can read the Switch 1 carts at their max. speed, it may be able to detect MiG Switch because, using 100-120MB/s microSDs, it can never respond at that supposed 190MB/s speed the original Switch 1 carts are said to work at.

 

[TheStonedModder]

Im not sure whats more annoying, this migswitch twitter guy or TheStonedModder constantly mentioning how many views the migswitch guy has

Happy I bothered you. I’ll make sure to do it more

He’s above 1.5m

 

[Inaki]

Since the Mig Switch use some kind of exploit for the Lotus3, that same thing doesn't exist on the Switch 2 it seems. Thats what I mean with "Doesn't reply as the real cards does".

Wasn't it just using lotus 3 keys ? From what we know, MiG Switch is aiming for a lower ( or higher, depending on meaning here ) level emulation of real carts, the signatures and so on are on the image files, when using a full image file set at least. Now, they may aim but not achieve this 100% clone response, for sure. But I think they do copy the protocol pretty accurately, maybe timings or top speed not being the same though...

 

[wikisa]

Not necessarily, because switch 1's cart slot may work at lower speeds than what the carts are able to work. Similar to when you use a USB 3.0 pen drive in a USB 2.0 port or when you use a fast microSD on a slow microSD reader. Now, when the new Switch 2 cart reader works at higher speed and can read the Switch 1 carts at their max. speed, it may be able to detect MiG Switch because, using 100-120MB/s microSDs, it can never respond at that supposed 190MB/s speed the original Switch 1 carts are said to work at.

wonder then if I put a shi**y sd card with 10-20mb/s read speed does it makes og switch refuse to load the game.

 

[Inaki]

wonder then if I put a shi**y sd card with 10-20mb/s read speed does it makes og switch refuse to load the game.

It may still not bother, or maybe it does detect. That doesn't negate the speculation though.

 

[linuxares]

Wasn't it just using lotus 3 keys ? From what we know, MiG Switch is aiming for a lower ( or higher, depending on meaning here ) level emulation of real carts, the signatures and so on are on the image files, when using a full image file set at least. Now, they may aim but not achieve this 100% clone response, for sure. But I think they do copy the protocol pretty accurately, maybe timings or top speed not being the same though...

Nobody knows, its just rumors really that they somehow got the keys.

 

[Inaki]

Nobody knows, its just rumors really that they somehow got the keys.

Ok, I read/heard/saw somewhere that they decapped the cart reader chip or something like that... but yeah, who knows.

 

[GalaxyNET]

someone try express sd card on mig switch and tell result

 

[TheStonedModder]

someone try express sd card on mig switch and tell result

It’s been done. It’s been like 16 hours everyone has tried everything they can. It’s now up to the real mig team

https://x.com/miguel_casso/status/1930678368493608968?s=46&t=n-3L-dL3UbieWF1v8K4QpQ

 

[Retrojunkies]

I can confirm that the MIG Switch does NOT work on the switch 2. I don't have an express card to try, but I think this suggestion is MIG Switch propaganda. The Switch 2 should have no way of telling what kind of SD card is in the MIG

This was tested with a newly opened Switch 1 game which was dumped immediately using nxdumptool using MIG's official recommended process. The Switch 2 is fully updated.

Don't have an express card which Nintendo clearly stated is now required and older ones won't work

It'll likely just need a patch to support them.

 

[TheStonedModder]

Don't have an express card which Nintendo clearly stated is now required and older ones won't work

It'll likely just need a patch to support them.

Doesn’t make a difference

https://x.com/miguel_casso/status/1930678368493608968?s=46&t=n-3L-dL3UbieWF1v8K4QpQ

 

[dolpf]

Those who tested Mig on Switch 2, you tested dumps with four bin files (Card ID Set.bin, Card UID.bin, Certificate.bin, Initial Data.bin).
And has anyone tested dumps with all seven bin files?
Card ID Set.bin
Card UID.bin
CardInfo.bin
Certificate.bin
Header.bin
Initial Data.bin
Specific Data.bin

 

[Madblaster6]

It’s been done. It’s been like 16 hours everyone has tried everything they can. It’s now up to the real mig team

Good because I didn't feel like testing this. I also have an SD Express card.

 

[TheStonedModder]

Good because I didn't feel like testing this. I also have an SD Express card.

You’ve done great always with that video you made earlier

Thank you again

 

[fürdielulz]

It’s been done. It’s been like 16 hours everyone has tried everything they can. It’s now up to the real mig team

Does the author of the video actually state that the card inside the cartridge is an mSD Express?

Judging from the video itself, it 100% looks like a SanDisk Extreme Pro. Not SD Express. Pretty fast nonetheless...

Edit: Not that fast, really. Apparently U3/A2/V30 is somewhere around 100 MB/s read speed.

@Madblaster6, I guess nobody tried with an actual Express card inside the cartridge yet. Or at least there's no proof.

 

[TheStonedModder]

Does the author of the video actually state that the card inside the cartridge is an mSD Express?

Judging from the video itself, it 100% looks like a SanDisk Extreme Pro. Not SD Express. Pretty fast nonetheless...

Edit: Not that fast, really. Apparently U3/A2/V30 is somewhere around 100 MB/s read speed.

That dude lies about things for clickbait so I would also take it with at least one grain of salt if you don’t think something looks right

 

[fürdielulz]

That dude lies about things for clickbait so I would also take it with at least one grain of salt if you don’t think something looks right

Who are you referring to now? The one who tweeted or the one who recorded the video? In any case, the video linked in the tweet does not show someone trying to use a microSD Express card with their MIG.

 

[Inaki]

Who are you referring to now? The one who tweeted or the one who recorded the video? In any case, the video linked in the tweet does not show someone trying to use a microSD Express card with their MIG.

Is the MiG Switch capable of using microSD express cards ? people have used faster microSD cards before and found no speed gains... those were still regular microSD cards, not microSD express, but with 200MB/s regular microSD cards the working speed of the cartridge was the same as when using 100MB/s regular microSD cards. Again, does MiG Switch support microSD express ? any info on this ?

 

[linuxares]

Who are you referring to now? The one who tweeted or the one who recorded the video? In any case, the video linked in the tweet does not show someone trying to use a microSD Express card with their MIG.

It won't make a difference... Mig Switch (or rather MigFlash) themselves don't promote it to work on the Switch 2.

 

[SonyUSA]

Who are you referring to now? The one who tweeted or the one who recorded the video? In any case, the video linked in the tweet does not show someone trying to use a microSD Express card with their MIG.

It's EXTREMELY unlikely that the MIG actually has an EXPRESS SD controller inside the unit. It's most likely a USB 2 based controller, I would be a little surprised if it's even USB 3 based. So it won't matter regardless of what is in it.