ROM Hack Jump Ultimate Stars NEW Translation Project

[tdawg]

Ok, you're either a troll, a 13 year old 'look how mature i am' manga obsessive who's horrendously ignorant of american comics or a good satirist. Either way its not worth wasting my time on any further.

 

[tdawg]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6841/potmw8.png

Thats from the actual game. Surely that conclusively proves that left to right English reading in the game would be more inkeeping with game dev's original intentions?

 

[geunt]

please can everybody stop teasing each other, and give objective notes??

for me , i prefer left to right reading, no offense to manga fan but we need lisibility on this little graphic

 

[raulpica]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6841/potmw8.png

Thats from the actual game. Surely that conclusively proves that left to right English reading in the game would be more inkeeping with game dev's original intentions?

That's used by manga artists to enforce the English talking of a character. Even in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, when like Joseph talks in English, it's written from left to right, but after a while he talks again in Japanese and it's written from right to left.

 

[aa22]

T F
R O
A R
N M
S !!

Is much easier on the eyes to read since its going to be in English.


I concur.

Most of the English speaking community read English text from left to right. By having the text as such, reading it will indeed be easier on the eyes. On the contrary, reading English text from right to left can be rather disorientating to say the least. Sure, it would be far from manga, but just because this game is based on manga doesn't mean we have to completely adjust and conform to this manga format.

I for one prefer and hope that the text be in the format as seen by the quote attached to this post.

I agree

 

[Dardon]

I think people need to look at the limitations when adding English to little pictures under 100 pixels. If they had more room to work with

TRANS-
FORM!

would work out much better then

T R
A N
S F
O R
M !

That's just as bad as trying to read

F T
O R
R A
M N
! S

Look I know 80% of the fans of this game are fans of the manga showcased in this game, but some things do need to change if its going to be translated for English (and by doing so you're allowing more non-manga English users to enjoy the game). Everyone agreed months ago that "Koma" would be universal when translating the game. It was also agreed to keep the names unchanged (One Piece Roronoa Zoro would stay Zoro although in English its Zolo). Some things are just going to need change.

 

[Deleted User]

Why as soon as we speak of mangas a lot of trolling angry kids feel the urge to register and share their hatred ? Please if you want to say such stupid things, do it in PM here it's off-topic, also the discussion on the form of text should be done on a Talk: page of the wiki and we shoudl try to keep this topic clean. Have you ever tried fetching some info in the JUS thread or the FFTA2 one ? it's really hard because of the useless off-topic posts.

 

[tdawg]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6841/potmw8.png

Thats from the actual game. Surely that conclusively proves that left to right English reading in the game would be more inkeeping with game dev's original intentions?

That's used by manga artists to enforce the English talking of a character. Even in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, when like Joseph talks in English, it's written from left to right, but after a while he talks again in Japanese and it's written from right to left.

If I've understood you correctly, its sounds more like the write right to left for japanese, and left to right for English because it is the correct way of doing things.

 

[alejo210]

About Dio's name...it's Dio, not DIO. The all-caps name is just to indicate his name in japanese is not written with kanji/katakana.

Also, did a quick try at an edit.

(The line in the manga moments FAQ was screwed up).

Should I change the font/size/layout?

 

[Gene98]

Why as soon as we speak of mangas a lot of trolling angry kids feel the urge to register and share their hatred ? Please if you want to say such stupid things, do it in PM here it's off-topic, also the discussion on the form of text should be done on a Talk: page of the wiki and we shoudl try to keep this topic clean. Have you ever tried fetching some info in the JUS thread or the FFTA2 one ? it's really hard because of the useless off-topic posts.

Actually I am working on _first_ translation under geunt.

About fonts and style - imo there shoud not be any _standart_ font. It's better to use fonts which looks like original hieroglyphs. (I mean if hieroglyphs on image are large, _normal_ and bold - use large and bold arial. If hieroglyphs are aclinic - use comic sans etc.)
That is what i mean

About PoT example - It's special _long_ line. Like Dio3.

btw it's DIO in-game. And all others are _normal_. I mean Allen, Ichigo etc. So we should keep DIO imo. Too bad it's already Dio in chr_b_t.bin...

 

[bennydigital]

The patch gives me two white screens. :/

 

[Grimalkin]

The patch gives me two white screens. :/

Thanks for giving us the most detailed and descriptive post that describes your problem, what you did to patch the ROM and gives us the filesize (and/or tells everyone if you had used a trimmed rom or not) of the ROM.

 

[wiithepeople]

All arguments about the koma text format in here please! Don't destroy this thread with flames

 

[alejo210]

Why as soon as we speak of mangas a lot of trolling angry kids feel the urge to register and share their hatred ? Please if you want to say such stupid things, do it in PM here it's off-topic, also the discussion on the form of text should be done on a Talk: page of the wiki and we shoudl try to keep this topic clean. Have you ever tried fetching some info in the JUS thread or the FFTA2 one ? it's really hard because of the useless off-topic posts.


Actually I am working on _first_ translation under geunt.

About fonts and style - imo there shoud not be any _standart_ font. It's better to use fonts which looks like original hieroglyphs. (I mean if hieroglyphs on image are large, _normal_ and bold - use large and bold arial. If hieroglyphs are aclinic - use comic sans etc.)
That is what i mean

About PoT example - It's special _long_ line. Like Dio3.

btw it's DIO in-game. And all others are _normal_. I mean Allen, Ichigo etc. So we should keep DIO imo. Too bad it's already Dio in chr_b_t.bin...

I agree with that. The text should fit the "tone" of the text rather than follow a specific font.

Also, it's "The World", not "World" >_>.

 

[TheMute]

So is our old .SAV files supposed to work with the new patch? Cuz mine doesn't...

 

[Chotaz]

i must say that's pretty impossible the save files have nothing to do with the rom translation... :\ and my still works on my CycloDS btw I trimmed the rom with NDSTokyTrim and then applied the patch an dit works greats, not much translated though, but its a start =) and I can see a brilliant end

 

[Jac834]

I'm sorry to be sort of off-topic, but what exactly is the difference between a "special move KO" and a "special attack KO" mission objective? I can get the attack ones...but I can't seem to figure out the "special move KO" missions.

Edit: Well, I tried it again and it worked this time, disregard this post.

 

[TheMute]

i must say that's pretty impossible the save files have nothing to do with the rom translation... :\ and my still works on my CycloDS btw I trimmed the rom with NDSTokyTrim and then applied the patch an dit works greats, not much translated though, but its a start =) and I can see a brilliant end

Maybe cuz I patched a clean JUS rom... So I should patch the original rom on my R4, that I trimmed with EZ-Trim+?

 

[mixinluv2u]

so i am looking more into editing the graphics from the Black Cat series. it seems like the manga frames may not be in their original order. i think they were cut and pasted to become the shape that they are in now for the komas.

for example, the 4 koma for eve is a straight up and down rectangle made up of four 1x1 squares. i don't think the original manga is like that. the dialogue appearing in the koma may or may not be in order either.

i know the full context of those 4 partial frames says that "Because I still have not defeated him myself yet." but since these are basically clip outs from the original manga.... they may not be in the original order? like the top frame i think probably said "myself" and then the bottom frame says the rest.

so what should we do?

 

[geunt]

because... ... i stil have not defeated him myself
or
because i still have not defeated him... ....Myself

BTW i've created a new topics for komas translation :
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=71630

to keep this thread clean !