ios 4.2 is out.

[tijntje_7]

Anyone know if it fixes the 3G and makes it an actual Phone again, rather then an expensive brick!

I can't really help you with getting it supported again, but I can help you let it perform (slightly? :/) better
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224341
Though, if you jailbreak it. You could look up some guides to enable wallpapers (they're disabled on the 3g right?) multitasking and more.
This is ridiciously easy, I have done it myself with my iPod touch 2g it's just editing a .plist file from
Multitasking disabled
to Multitasking enabled

That's seriously all, though I'm not gonna write you a guide

Look it up, enable 'feature' jailbroken iphone 3g
There are also cydia apps which do this automatically for you.
But... This is not hard


I have also done the launchdeamons speed up thingy. It works, and DOES make it faster.
Also, if you don't mind a kinda ugly springboard (and less customization) You could enable safe mode.
It's the mode you get when you're iDevice crashes, with the sad iPhone.
You won't lose ANYTHING, since it's just temporary. It's a tap of a finger (pun

) to change it back to normal. (well, actually two)
Assuming you got SBSettings. Swipe your finger at the up bar thingy (time and stuff) And open sbsettings like you normally would. Press the 'Power' Button, and select 'safe mode'

This safe mode, gives you an actual difference in performance.

Good luck, and I hope I helped

You can ask me if something's unclear ^^



(yes this is also for any other iDevice)

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

Anyone know if it fixes the 3G and makes it an actual Phone again, rather then an expensive brick!

I have also done the launchdeamons speed up thingy. It works, and DOES make it faster.

launchdeamons???

FASTER?...

make my piece of shit iPod Touch 2G faster!?

DO TELL.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

You're incorrect in your assumption that its as simple as making it compatible. The 2G/3G, 3GS, and iPhone 4 all differ in the varying chipsets that comprise the device, which require different optimizations and drivers with every release. This translates to increased development time and costs, which Apple decided (as most manufacturer's in this field do) wasn't worth it and would provide an additional detriment to selling new units.

And once again, Apple is far better in this regard than most handset manufacturers. Look at the Motorola CLIQ for example. It's scarcely a year old, released with an outdated version of android, and took a year to get a 9 month old update. Be lucky the device got updates for as long as it did.

Hmm. Apple know perfectly well that their rabid 'fanbase' will do anything to buy the latest iDevice, so that's really the only thing they think of. If it weren't like this, they would offer more support for their older devices, as that would then make them look better (because everyone would then say "Hey, you know, I got an iDevice from Apple last year and they've been providing updates for it ever since, you should get one, too!"). The optimisations needed to be made for the various chipsets are really nothing special and can be done in no time - especially when you've got an entire team of people working on them.

At least it got the update, which is something I'm not seeing in this case.

tl;dr: Apple really are fiends herpaderp.

 

[ThePowerOutage]

Launchdeamons are scripts that are run every time the device starts.
By removing them you speed up the boot
Anyway, if you find your iPods too slow, why don't you just overclock it?

 

[BORTZ]

Dude the locate idevice sounds nice and handy let me tell you.

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

Launchdeamons are scripts that are run every time the device starts.
By removing them you speed up the boot
Anyway, if you find your iPods too slow, why don't you just overclock it?

what does launchdeamons actually DO?...it has to to something important

and overclocking it will shorten the life

 

[Urza]

You're incorrect in your assumption that its as simple as making it compatible. The 2G/3G, 3GS, and iPhone 4 all differ in the varying chipsets that comprise the device, which require different optimizations and drivers with every release. This translates to increased development time and costs, which Apple decided (as most manufacturer's in this field do) wasn't worth it and would provide an additional detriment to selling new units.

And once again, Apple is far better in this regard than most handset manufacturers. Look at the Motorola CLIQ for example. It's scarcely a year old, released with an outdated version of android, and took a year to get a 9 month old update. Be lucky the device got updates for as long as it did.Hmm. Apple know perfectly well that their rabid 'fanbase' will do anything to buy the latest iDevice, so that's really the only thing they think of. If it weren't like this, they would offer more support for their older devices, as that would then make them look better (because everyone would then say "Hey, you know, I got an iDevice from Apple last year and they've been providing updates for it ever since, you should get one, too!"). The optimisations needed to be made for the various chipsets are really nothing special and can be done in no time - especially when you've got an entire team of people working on them.
That's pretty much all false. Updating chipset drivers for three separate devices in every OS update is no small task, and Apple has far less people on the development team than most of their competitors. Every feature they add has to be thoroughly tested against every device, further optimized, potentially removed, restarting the entire cycle. It further promotes fragmentation, which is hugely detrimental for the platform as a whole. You seem to have no concept of what software development of a major platform actually entails.

In addition I will mention yet again, Apple provides updates for their devices far longer than the average. If you're going to chastise, you really have to chastise the entire industry (however to follow your advice is simply bad business).

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QUOTE(ThePowerOutage @ Nov 22 2010, 03:38 PM)

Launchdeamons are scripts that are run every time the device starts.
By removing them you speed up the boot
Anyway, if you find your iPods too slow, why don't you just overclock it?

what does launchdeamons actually DO?...it has to to something important

and overclocking it will shorten the life

Daemons are background processes, that are started when you boot your device. They are responsible for everything from audio playback to wireless connectivity. Certain daemons (for example the ones responsible for logging and error reporting) can be removed without any negative effects.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

That's pretty much all false. Updating chipset drivers for three separate devices in every OS update is no small task, and Apple has far less people on the development team than most of their competitors. Every feature they add has to be thoroughly tested against every device, further optimized, potentially removed, restarting the entire cycle. It further promotes fragmentation, which is hugely detrimental for the platform as a whole. You seem to have no concept of what software development of a major platform actually entails.

I didn't mean to say they should add every single update for every single iDevice, but an update every once in a while is a nice thing. And I wouldn't call Apple's development team 'small', either. It isn't as large as that of other companies, but still.

 

[Urza]

That's pretty much all false. Updating chipset drivers for three separate devices in every OS update is no small task, and Apple has far less people on the development team than most of their competitors. Every feature they add has to be thoroughly tested against every device, further optimized, potentially removed, restarting the entire cycle. It further promotes fragmentation, which is hugely detrimental for the platform as a whole. You seem to have no concept of what software development of a major platform actually entails.

I didn't mean to say they should add every single update for every single iDevice, but an update every once in a while is a nice thing. And I wouldn't call Apple's development team 'small', either. It isn't as large as that of other companies, but still.

It's incredibly small considering how widespread and robust the platform is. Apple's design and development teams operate more closely to that of a startup rather than the established computing giant that they are. Jobs finds the best minds he can and focuses them into smaller teams, which in the case of Apple has had the benefit of producing very intuitive and well=designed products, but also limits the number of expendable man-hours.

 

[metamaster]

Finally...
Wonder how long it will take until the untethered jailbreak is released.

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

my god....I've started a flamewar with this Apple phasing out 2G support....

but since AirPrint is in 4.2 it would have been a matter of time before some pissed off iPod Touch 2G owner would mention it.

 

[Urza]

my god....I've started a flamewar with this Apple phasing out 2G support....

This is not really a flame war.

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

my god....I've started a flamewar with this Apple phasing out 2G support....

This is not really a flame war.

I should more like say...heated discussion

 

[Gh0sti]

there will hopefully be a .plist edititing to add airprint for us 2G users no worries till someone finds it updating and waiting for a jailbreak now