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For my 3ds games installation my set up has always been copying cia files from my computer to the sd card, then insert the sd card to my 3ds and open fbi on my 3ds to install the cia, I wonder if there's a simpler way to install cia without using fbi on 3ds? Maybe a program on the computer to extract the files from cia and then I can simply copy the extracted files to the sd card and then insert it to my 3ds and play right away?
I mean it saves a lot of time because I don't have to copy the cia to the 3ds and then install it using fbi which takes a long time too and doubles my storage memory with this method.
Any tools on the pc to directly install via on the sd card? Thanks
 
The only other way I know of installing CIA's without FBI is by using some custom build of Luma that allows you to install CIA's through Rosalina's menu
 
mikefor20 said:
Yes but it eliminates having to have twice the space on your SD, you don't have to touch the SD and has far less wear and tear on the SD.

As close to directly installing a CIA file as it gets.
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Yes but the OP's thread title asked for specifically without FBI and you mentioned a program that requires FBI. I know what Boop does.
 
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For my 3ds games installation my set up has always been copying cia files from my computer to the sd card, then insert the sd card to my 3ds and open fbi on my 3ds to install the cia, I wonder if there's a simpler way to install cia without using fbi on 3ds? Maybe a program on the computer to extract the files from cia and then I can simply copy the extracted files to the sd card and then insert it to my 3ds and play right away?
I mean it saves a lot of time because I don't have to copy the cia to the 3ds and then install it using fbi which takes a long time too and doubles my storage memory with this method.
Any tools on the pc to directly install via on the sd card? Thanks
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KunoichiZ said:
Yes but the OP's thread title asked for specifically without FBI and you mentioned a program that requires FBI. I know what Boop does.
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It's good to want things, what he want's doesn't exist.

Besides, look at the post.

"Maybe a program on the computer to extract the files from cia and then I can simply copy the extracted files to the sd card and then insert it to my 3ds and play right away?
I mean it saves a lot of time because I don't have to copy the cia to the 3ds and then install it using fbi which takes a long time too and doubles my storage memory with this method.
Any tools on the pc to directly install via on the sd card?"

With Boop he gets the desired results. No double space needed. Installs to SD. It still uses FBI but it eliminates the things he is complaining about , well some of them. Still on WiFi but it's a good suggestion. If you know what Boop does then you know it eliminates some of the things the OP doesn't care for. Are you being constructive? Do you have a better idea? I don't see one. Sure happy to chime in aren't you? Next time don't bother.

Boop is the best option for ME. Op might like it too. Whoever doesn't, I don't care :) OP, Boop is as close as it gets to directly installing a .CIA and only writing it to the SD once. There is no PC side solution like we had on the Wii.
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is the wear and tear really that significant on the sd card? I've had my SanDisk 64gb for over a year now and installed over 50 games using the regular method of moving cia and install with fbi, my sd card is still working flawlessly, so what's the average lifetime of sd card when used with 3ds?
 
Vitaminer said:
is the wear and tear really that significant on the sd card? I've had my SanDisk 64gb for over a year now and installed over 50 games using the regular method of moving cia and install with fbi, my sd card is still working flawlessly, so what's the average lifetime of sd card when used with 3ds?
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Define significant, I don't know the amount of read writes in your cards lifetime or if the frequency the 3DS uses them is large or not in the first place. Things like EMU Nands will stress the SD. I will say that IF you copy a CIA to the SD and install with FBI you are writing a significant amount more than if you install over the WiFi and write to the SD once. Twice the writing,erasing and space. That's significantly more. Is it an issue? I have had 3 SD cards die on me in the last few years. One was in one of my 3DS consoles as well. 2 in phones. I would rather limit the wear and tear if I can. Just because.
 
mikefor20 said:
Define significant, I don't know the amount of read writes in your cards lifetime or if the frequency the 3DS uses them is large or not in the first place. Things like EMU Nands will stress the SD. I will say that IF you copy a CIA to the SD and install with FBI you are writing a significant amount more than if you install over the WiFi and write to the SD once. Twice the writing,erasing and space. That's significantly more. Is it an issue? I have had 3 SD cards die on me in the last few years. One was in one of my 3DS consoles as well. 2 in phones. I would rather limit the wear and tear if I can. Just because.
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Not only that, about 30% of the time when I get my hands on a 3ds game, it's not even .cia format, it's in encrypted .3ds format, that means I have to move it to that D9game folder and decrypt it on my 3ds (read and write to the sd card) and then move back to my computer and moving back again, creating lots of read/write to the sd card, but thank God that the sd cards are not too expensive
 
Vitaminer said:
Not only that, about 30% of the time when I get my hands on a 3ds game, it's not even .cia format, it's in encrypted .3ds format, that means I have to move it to that D9game folder and decrypt it on my 3ds (read and write to the sd card) and then move back to my computer and moving back again, creating lots of read/write to the sd card, but thank God that the sd cards are not too expensive
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Unless you are running it on a Gateway just get the .CIA files..
 
Vitaminer said:
Not only that, about 30% of the time when I get my hands on a 3ds game, it's not even .cia format, it's in encrypted .3ds format, that means I have to move it to that D9game folder and decrypt it on my 3ds (read and write to the sd card) and then move back to my computer and moving back again, creating lots of read/write to the sd card, but thank God that the sd cards are not too expensive
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Why don't you just use freeShop?
 
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Quantumcat said:
Why don't you just use freeShop?
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Freeshop is okay. I think the .3DS/.CIA issue is only there when the game first releases. Just whatever you can find in the beginning. Freeshop doesn't work until the .tik leaks and that's usually after the .cia .3ds drops..
 
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lol I've never tried freeshop and I've heard that I need to hunt for license/keys files and it all seem too complicated to me
 
apparently the OP wants to install the games to the sdcard using the computer. as far as I know this cannot be done by any means at all, as the info required to do this is on the 3ds itself.

it's the same reason you can't just transfer a sdcard to a new 3ds and have the stuff on it work. you need info from that 3ds to perform the install, even with sigpatching.
 
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