I'm on the verge of dropping out of high school. Any ideas from both sides?

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Why should I drop out? Why should I stay?

I want to work in IT, either as an employee or by myself, while streaming as a hobby. Any thoughts?
Stay in school !
do it now while you can doing it as an adult sucks.,
 

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One has a piece of paper. (Certification)

The rest is really up to you.
 
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idk if it would help to work with it, i mean idk how this college thing works, i just want to work with animation
About half year ago, while browsing Facebook, I came across with propaganda about going and receiving Scholarships for Art Schools in Canada.
The only requisites were:
-Being able to speak English.
-Having Highschool Diploma
-Having Passport.

I can't remember if they gave you money for the entire duration of your Scholarship.
They teach Animation for Games, Cartoons, Anime, Fine Art Painting, Character Designer for anything, Comic, Videogames, etc. etc. etc.

So, yes you could go to Canada.
 

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would you like some fries with that sir?

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On a serious note. I have to pay 10's of thousands each year to send my 3 kids to school and yet you have it for free and you're just going to throw it away. If you want to have a future and a good paying job, you better stay in school.
 

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"I want to work in IT"

Ok what part of IT?

Coding?

Are you good at it? if so what languages can you do?

IT Security, networking, help desk?

I need more info.

Also in my experience all you really need is experience and certs to help fill any holes in your knowledge you might have.
 

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About half year ago, while browsing Facebook, I came across with propaganda about going and receiving Scholarships for Art Schools in Canada.
The only requisites were:
-Being able to speak English.
-Having Highschool Diploma
-Having Passport.

I can't remember if they gave you money for the entire duration of your Scholarship.
They teach Animation for Games, Cartoons, Anime, Fine Art Painting, Character Designer for anything, Comic, Videogames, etc. etc. etc.

So, yes you could go to Canada.
passport is very expensive dude XD
also they would give an apartment, money for bills and food and such?????
 

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Hey smileyhead!

I have worked in the IT industry for the past nine years (now age 31). I'm going to give you an idea of my experience in the IT industry and hopefully you'll be able to make an informed decision for yourself about whether to stick with school or not.

I graduated high school, barely made it through. I excelled at schooling when I was actually there but as soon as I got a drivers license I would skip class so much that I almost didn't graduate. After high school I went to community college for a year and then to a University but never finished my degree (at the time I was trying to be a pharmacist).

I played a LOT of WoW and sorta put life on the back-burner. After a while I decided that I wanted to get a job and start making some money but didn't know what to do. I was sitting on Ventrilo (the discord of my day) one night and was chatting with a guy that had his A+ certification and he suggested that I look in to the IT industry since I was always good with computers. I tried to find a job in IT but it took quite to get my first job in the industry given my lack of credentials/experience. I finally found a job as an entry level help desk support rep that was a contract to hire job. If you're not familiar with that type of employment, a staffing agency works with the company in question and does requiting for them. You don't actually work for the company you report to, you work for the staffing agency that hired you. After the contract term (usually anywhere from 3-12 months), the company has the option to hire you on as a permanent employee.

After my six month contract was up, the company laid me off because of financial troubles (this was during the recession in 2008). They ended up calling me back and hiring me on permanently a few months later but when that happened it sorta crushed me. I couldn't help but wonder if I made a mistake going in to the IT industry. As I was looking around for other jobs I started to realize that a LOT of the IT jobs out there (and even more so now in 2017) are contractor positions. You work for some sort of staffing agency that likely gets $20/hour for the work you do and pays you $15/hour (not exact numbers but the ratio is likely accurate). In addition to that a good number of those jobs don't have any sort of health insurance benefits associated with them either. I worked there for a few years and attempted to move up in the company but would get passed up for promotions for folks with 2 or 4 year degrees. After a few years of working there and building up my resume with experience and certifications, I was able to land a job that paid well and had good benefits (health insurance, 401k, tuition reimbursement, vacation time etc) working directly for the company. It was a long road to get there but it worked out in the end. I have been taking advantage of the tuition reimbursement program and am only a few classes away from having an IT degree.

I know plenty of guys that are in the industry that never graduated high school that have done well. Some lie about having graduated, some just really worked their asses off to prove themselves. The moral of my story is that in my opinion, the IT industry is very difficult to navigate with an education let alone not having a high school diploma. A lot of IT jobs that can be done remotely like help desk support are getting outsourced to the Philippines, India and Mexico which makes the competition that much more fierce for a solid job in IT that isn't through a staffing agency. You'll find yourself not getting calls back because they hired some noob with no experience but has a degree.

Ultimately to answer you question, I would be really curious about why you want to drop out of high school to begin with. If you can stick it out, I would suggest you do. If you went out and got an A+ certification today, you would have to retake the exam a few years from now to retain that certification. As cliche as it sounds, nobody can take an education from you whether its a high school diploma or a doctorate.

I know I didn't exactly answer your question but hopefully that gives you a better idea of what you can expect working in the IT industry without an education. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Good luck!
 

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Why should I drop out? Why should I stay?

I want to work in IT, either as an employee or by myself, while streaming as a hobby. Any thoughts?
Don't be such a tard, actually dropping out of high school would make you a tard. Education is the path to enlightenment.
 
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So why are you wanting do drop out of high school?
Is it too easy? Is it too hard? Social issues/bullying? I'm still technically in high school so I'm not going to be too much of a help in this conversation, but I will say that depending on what state you live in (I dunno about other countries) and what situation your in (such as social issues or school not being too much of a challenge for you) you could sign up for the dual enrollment program like I have. State pays for it and you get to take college courses that count as credits towards both high school and college. Basically you take a tougher version of your typical one year highschool class, condense it down to one semester and only have to go limited days of the week. It's a lot of pressure but it's a fun challenge to take, and a really good way to already have some of your college classes done before your officially in college if you decide to do so. Plus if you decide to go to college then depending on state laws you can go for that Hope scholarship money by doing well on the SAT (just took mine today).
 

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Idk how A levels equivalate to high school in America but since I'm currently doing them I would like to advise you somethings.

Firstly studying isn't that hard actually it only is if you think it is, unless you have any other issues as stated above like bullying or if school is taking a toll on your health. Not that I think that school system isn't totally in shambles but still I'd recommend staying in school rather than leaving. The highschool diploma is a big achievement that think all those years of Boring homework brought you, you nay never know if you are able to achieve something ever again in life so. Also be glad you are having it easy, because In my and many other Asian countries grades are life if you don't have Above A plus you cannot even think of getting into college and job on Gcse or A level subjects are not Available here in my location. Also you have to give SAT and score above 1450 to get admitted into subpar colleges.
 
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College debt, *sigh* I wish I had seen this post eight years ago. I never would have gone to college, but alas, it's far too late, maybe I should just fake my death to get out of paying off my stupid loan. Loans are evil, so if FAFSA, Fedloan, they all suck.
Faking death is expensive to do properly (you have that and a full new identity to sort out). Why not go where they can't get you; plenty of people living the good life in Europe.

Personally I am happier and happier I had UK style student loans and fees of a decade or so ago -- less than £15k I think for all the years, income linked (I earn less than something like £18K a year I don't pay), interest is inflation basically and repayments if I ever bother to earn enough are still pretty minimal.

Me too, leading to school in a few minutes.
But anyway, I just want your opinion as a teacher:
So, I've always studied by myself, everything, math, chemistry, physics, English, Spanish, French, etc. etc. etc.
And I believe that ANY school system is bullshit and leads to time and money loss.
And by personal experience, can say that most people quits studying for some problems, those either be Bullying or any other, like Monetary problems or Health Problems. The thing is, that Socially is usually accepted to study based on those systems. Which I have no plans to keep accepting them nor encouraging them.
My question to you is:
I've planned pretty much all the life of my kids, I still don't have any, but I really want TO school them at home.
Teach them everything, from Kindergarden to Highschool and even College studies.
So, do you recommend me to take that path with my kids?
And if you think I shouldn't, why not?

I believe, that Home School will aid them to learn better and faster than attending school every single day for 20+ years.

I would strongly consider not, or at least only augmenting whatever they get in a more conventional setup.
1) It is a lot of effort. If it is what you want to dedicate your life to doing then so be it but I would want to live my own life too. I like learning things but realistically you are not going to get your kid to the point where you are both learning things together before many years have passed, much less if you also decide to space them out a bit.
2) As good as you are there may be someone better.
3) School does teach more than what is in lessons. A big one being the ability to socialise and deal with other people.
4) To do it well is quite expensive. To kit out even a modest lab and workshop takes quite a bit. I go through phases of books and practical learning but kids spend far more time wanting practical. Or if you prefer would you have preferred to read about elephant toothpaste or see a mess get made?

Now if you can put together your own setup with a few friends this can change quite quickly.
 

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Don't drop high school if you want to work in IT. IT require learning all the time and that will not good look for employers if you don't have diploma. If helpdesk, networking, I guess high school papers is enough. For coding often college graduated too and good memory for fast learning new tech skills.
 
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Why should I drop out? Why should I stay?

I want to work in IT, either as an employee or by myself, while streaming as a hobby. Any thoughts?

There will always be pros and cons for both sides of the argument, but regardless, you won't get anywhere if you don't work hard. This is the case if you have a degree or not.

While dropping out doesn't mean you'll not get a good job and staying doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get something, in the end, it all boils down to how hard you're willing to work to get what you want. If you want to work in IT, I would suggest researching the field that you want to join. See what skills you need. Are these something you can get outside of school, or would school be the best place?

Never go in blind, always evaluate and make an informed decision.

Whatever you choose, good luck :)
 

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Don't drop out of high school. If it would've been higher education you could've done whatever you felt like, but high school is usually "mandatory".
Also, IT is one of the biggest branches of work right now, and they can pick and choose amongst those who apply and they won't choose the high school dropout.
 
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You can always take online courses...
The only thing with online courses is that you have to have insane self motivation. Lots of people go into it thinking, oh that's easy stuff, but if you have the slightest urge to procrastinate, you can really screw yourself over.

High school, as terrible as it is, tends to be very important. You could get a GED, but it's still looked down upon as compared to a HS diploma. Just stick with it, it might be tough, it might seem like its useless, but I think especially if you want an IT job, you're gonna be happier in the long run if you don't drop out.
 
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