Hacking Hykem's 5.5 iosu Exploit

[davetheshrew]

How is loadiine not piracy ?

much like emulators arent, they dont hold the games.

 

[Aroth]

2. Loadiine also isn't piracy.

The ONLY purpose Loadiine serves is to load backups of games and since it is illegal in most countries to even make a backup, that means Loadiine is synonymous with piracy.

 

[lonemoonHD]

Look, HE isnt taking part in the piracy aspect of this, at all, much like smea did with 3ds. Is the 3ds wide open now? methinks yes, and its still not on smea's hands. Hykem doesn't want to be liable. So yeah.

He wouldn't be liable for anything. What he's doing now is basically: "Hey! I know my exploit is your destiny, but sorry! You can't use it yet because I encrypted it five times over and now it's hard to do anything! I'm sorry, I just couldn't risk this turning into Pirate Bay! "

 

[kaotik2k]

much like emulators arent, they dont hold the games.

Maybe you should look a Nintendo's legal page regarding emulators and roms https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp

Didn't @Hykem mention about bootrom or boot something when he delayed the release of IOSU exploit at one time?

Without EMUNAND, it's very much less hyped.

Can someone ask @Hykem about this when he's back here or if having contact with @Hykem in the inner circle?

Yes he said yesterday he will still explore this but for now he is releasing the exploit as it is. he said it in one of these threads yesterday, if you look on his profile and latest posts you will find it.

 

[tivu100]

No Boot2 access afaik. Not even a BootROM key that I know about, either.

Didn't @Hykem mention about bootrom or boot something when he delayed the release of IOSU exploit at one time?

Without EMUNAND, it's very much less hyped.

Can someone ask @Hykem about this when he's back here or if having contact with @Hykem in the inner circle?

 

[lonemoonHD]

The ONLY purpose Loadiine serves is to load backups of games and since it is illegal in most countries to even make a backup, that means Loadiine is synonymous with piracy.

Cemu does virtually the same thing as Loadiine; runs games. We do not see that as piracy?

 

[loco365]

Thanks. Now tell Hykem he can't play god.

And this is why devs are reluctant to release anything - they see users here as greedy and privileged. I personally don't mind @Hykem delaying the release to slow down/prevent piracy.

Trust me, I've seen people talk about GBAtemp users in this way. It's kinda sad.

 

[Aroth]

I didnt mention the not finding mcp bug, couldnt be fucked with the raging dickheads saying Im two people and fake blah.

Just to play devil's advocate here, your join date was in the last month, so I can't exactly fault them for assuming you were another troll. That said it seems to me like you are the real deal at this point so *shrug*

He wouldn't be liable for anything. What he's doing now is basically: "Hey! I know my exploit is your destiny, but sorry! You can't use it yet because I encrypted it five times over and now it's hard to do anything! I'm sorry, I just couldn't risk this turning into Pirate Bay! "

I kinda agree here. I understand the desire for devs to do what they can to distance themselves from piracy and the appearance of having supported or enabled it (especially after geohot) but the more they work to prevent it by doing things like obfuscation, the harder it becomes to make use of the exploit for homebrew at all. It seems smea found a nice balance for this on the 3DS, but will hykem be able to provide the same here?

 

[lonemoonHD]

Didn't @Hykem mention about bootrom or boot something when he delayed the release of IOSU exploit at one time?

Without EMUNAND, it's very much less hyped.

Can someone ask @Hykem about this when he's back here or if having contact with @Hykem in the inner circle?

He mentioned a bug in the MPC module, or something, that could hijack code execution and result in early IOSU access and a direct boot into an exploitable environment.

 

[Aroth]

Yes he said yesterday he will still explore this but for now he is releasing the exploit as it is. he said it in one of these threads yesterday, if you look on his profile and latest posts you will find it.

Hykem has not posted since Monday morning (three days ago), so yeah...

 

[kaotik2k]

Cemu does virtually the same thing as Loadiine; runs games. We do not see that as piracy?

CEMU is piracy

Hykem has not posted since Monday morning (three days ago), so yeah...

Sorry I honestly remember reading the post. Maybe I read it in IRC or somebody else quoted him on here. You don't have to believe me just wait for Hykem.

 

[lonemoonHD]

And this is why devs are reluctant to release anything - they see users here as greedy and privileged. I personally don't mind @Hykem delaying the release to slow down/prevent piracy.

That's because when you release something, you intend for others to use it. What is the point of an exploit that grants you the entire console but can't do jack shit unless it's reverse-engineered?

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CEMU is piracy

That was not directed at you. Sorry.

 

[Aroth]

Cemu does virtually the same thing as Loadiine; runs games. We do not see that as piracy?

It is. Whether you load the game from an official disc or you load from a backup it is still considered piracy.

If you are loading from a retail disc you are still committing copyright infringement by using what amounts to an unauthorized reproduction of a copyrighted hardware platform.

If you are loading backups its copyright infringement by making/using an unauthorized reproduction of copyrighted material (the game itself).

 

[Panic.exe]

yes, bottom line.

Lol, Inb4 shitstorm. xD

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I thought higher meant worth more when compared to USD, which it hasn't been for years now. My bad.
You'll be getting a lot more money if you convert USD to CDN while crossing the border compared to CDN -> USD.

This is what I meant

 

[Antonio Ricardo]

Emunand is not piracy, it's cool @Hykem say about this if is possible soon through IOSU or not. @oPolo said we need boot1, so one dev say one thing and other dev said other thing..lol
@SonyUSA can you say this for him?
I remember he said about create a method like Emunand and he knows that is the most important thing on wiiu scene.
I want play my original games online, free region and homebrews without update firmware, spoof firmware is very limited now we have IOSU.

 

[lonemoonHD]

It is. Whether you load the game from an official disc or you load from a backup it is still considered piracy.

If you are loading from a retail disc you are still committing copyright infringement by using what amounts to an unauthorized reproduction of a copyrighted hardware platform.

If you are loading backups its copyright infringement by making/using unauthorized reproduction of copyrighted material (the game itself).

Yet clearly there is such a large audience for it, it's obvious why as softmodders, we're annoyed with this.

 

[loco365]

That's because when you release something, you intend for others to you use it. What is the point of an exploit that grants you the entire console but can't do jack shit unless it's reverse-engineered?

This isn't just some useless exploit. This can potentially allow for unsigned code to run, which means that homebrew can become a thing. It grants you the whole console, yes, therefore it doesn't do jack shit.

Just because you have access to the whole console doesn't mean that the sole purpose of it should only be piracy.

 

[kaotik2k]

So I'm interested. If we cant run backups or emulators because they are piracy what is everybody hoping to achieve with this exploit ?

 

[lonemoonHD]

This isn't just some useless exploit. This can potentially allow for unsigned code to run, which means that homebrew can become a thing. It grants you the whole console, yes, therefore it doesn't do jack shit.

Just because you have access to the whole console doesn't mean that the sole purpose of it should only be piracy.

Yes, my words were poorly formulated there, I admit. But I'm not just one person who wants to play some backups, they're dozens of them. Besides, Homebrew already IS a thing. Still need something more than Pong to modify RAM though. :/