Hardware How powerful IS the 3DS exactly?

[Fear Zoa]

3ds....powerful enough to make my fellow tempers waste their time on a stupid internet argument.....

I rest my case

It's Ridge Racer!

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RAAAAAAAAAACERRRRRRRRRRRR

*chirp* *chirp*

I need to watch that again

 

[heartgold]

Push out too quickly. That what happens when a game is rushed.

It was an ps1 port with slightly added features, right?

 

[DiscostewSM]

um... Urza What are you doing?

His account might have been compromised? Or maybe just a bad day. I know I had one the other day when some jerk and his friend in their car prevented me from merging onto the freeway, all the while both giving me the bird like they owned the road.

 

[Urza]

um... Urza What are you doing?

His account might have been compromised? Or maybe just a bad day. I know I had one the other day when some jerk and his friend in their car prevented me from merging onto the freeway, all the while both giving me the bird like they owned the road.

I am above such things.

Back to your rice fields, peasant!

 

[DiscostewSM]

um... Urza What are you doing?

His account might have been compromised? Or maybe just a bad day. I know I had one the other day when some jerk and his friend in their car prevented me from merging onto the freeway, all the while both giving me the bird like they owned the road.

I am above such things.

Back to your rice fields, peasant!

Ah! Now we see the violence inherited in the system!
Come and see the violence inherited in the system!
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

 

[Fear Zoa]

um... Urza What are you doing?

His account might have been compromised? Or maybe just a bad day. I know I had one the other day when some jerk and his friend in their car prevented me from merging onto the freeway, all the while both giving me the bird like they owned the road.

I am above such things.

Back to your rice fields, peasant!

But....but.....this isn't the EoF....you can't do that here..........anywhere but here......

In all seriousness I rather have this off topic nonsense then bickering.....

 

[Urza]

um... Urza What are you doing?

His account might have been compromised? Or maybe just a bad day. I know I had one the other day when some jerk and his friend in their car prevented me from merging onto the freeway, all the while both giving me the bird like they owned the road.

I am above such things.

Back to your rice fields, peasant!

Ah! Now we see the violence inherited in the system!
Come and see the violence inherited in the system!
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

 

[Fear Zoa]

This thread is beyond repair....

inb4lock

 

[Rydian]

While a game system may have been in development for a long time, the tech specs (and I'm not just talking clock speed of the processor and RAM amount) change, so you can't really develop for it until a certain point (though I suppose porting is a possibility these days).

 

[heartgold]

Back on topic, How powerful is the 3DS exactly?

We don't know, hell it could be very under powered(less cpu cycles) but the advance shaders and what the GPU can do make it's graphics look on par with the wii and above.

 

[KingVamp]

It was an ps1 port with slightly added features, right?

idn really know.

 

[Urza]

Back to your rice fields, peasant!

Considering the crops in your land carry diseases (and you are well aware), I'm going to have to call you a sick and twisted human being for not burning the corpses. Those things just pile up and make it very hard to get to work.

 

[Fear Zoa]

I suspect square enix will make a pretty graphics intensive game....I remember being surprised by the kingdom hearts games they made on the ds

 

[Rydian]

Back on topic, How powerful is the 3DS exactly?

We don't know, hell it could be very under powered(less cpu cycles) but the advance shaders and what the GPU can do make it's graphics look on par with the wii and above.

That's either a good or a bad thing. If the focus was on shaders and such, then the graphics can be made to look great as soon as development really ramps up, but the emulation capability will be cut.

 

[heartgold]

Back on topic, How powerful is the 3DS exactly?

We don't know, hell it could be very under powered(less cpu cycles) but the advance shaders and what the GPU can do make it's graphics look on par with the wii and above.

That's either a good or a bad thing. If the focus was on shaders and such, then the graphics can be made to look great as soon as development really ramps up, but the emulation capability will be cut.

Yup, Nintendo probably just made the cut with the CPU just enough for smooth gameplay and what it can handle at a time. Wouldn't be surprised to see CPU clocked around 400-600 backed up with their dedicated GPU built into the chip which the DS lacked to up the visuals.

 

[KidIce]

Ah! Now we see the violence inherited in the system!
Come and see the violence inherited in the system!
Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

Such butchery. It's "inherent".

 

[granville]

PROTIP: NOTHING IS USED AT IT'S FULL POTENTIAL AT LAUNCH

I know but still. COMPARING RIDGE RACER PSP TO RIDGE RACER 3DS, why is the 3DS visually less impressive and suffers from performance problems.

It should be obvious- Ubisoft once again rushing out games to coincide with launch. I bought Rayman 3D, developed by them as well. Despite being a fun game and perfectly playable, what we are dealing with is a port of a ~12 year old Dreamcast game with the added addition of an unstable framerate and removal of the original shading/lighting. Also, a lot of glitches with graphics/sound as well. The 3DS is CLEARLY a lot more powerful than DC and capable of producing far superior graphics than DC. The only one at fault and the only reason for the downgrade is Ubisoft. That's the sole reason why their games end up looking worse than *insert technically weaker system than 3DS here*. We're seeing other companies making games that are turning heads everywhere, putting some effort into their work. Yet we've got the lazy Ubisoft doing what they do best- underachieving just to make a quick dirty dollar. Just because a game shows a clear lack of visual effort does not mean that's all the parent system is capable of. If that were the case, our benchmark for visual fidelity on SNES would be Mario World instead of DKC (or Mario RPG). Or in terms of N64, we see Mario 64 as the most technically advanced game instead of Conker. I could go on. The point is, you take the BEST of what a system can do to see what it's made of, not purposefully choose the less impressive games.

On the other end of the spectrum, we've got developers like Capcom. Resident Evil Mercenaries and Revelations are both pushing very advanced visuals. Graphically, you can't deny what they've achieved. Regardless of what you try to claim, the games are pushing effects that just would NOT be possible on the PSP whatsoever. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise is in denial (or blind in some way, sorry). Argue all you like about how pretty the games are to your eyes, but the games are using graphical effects that the PSP cannot support. It's called being realistic. It's a shame that some people can't see past their own pride to realize the obvious.

Another good example of what the 3DS can do is Metal Gear Solid 3D. All we've seen is a rushed tech demo, but we've seen enough to see what the 3DS can do when given proper attention. It is also noteworthy that these are early gen games. It's inevitable that games will look even better later on in life.

The raw processing power remains mostly unknown. All we know about the CPU has always been known and obvious- ARM based. The memory at least is quite speedy, apparently superior to DDR2 memory in terms of speed. The CPU will mostly determine what sort of complex AI and physics can be processed. The system can at least hold its own in terms of visuals though.

 

[heartgold]

It should be obvious- Ubisoft once again rushing out games to coincide with launch. I bought Rayman 3D, developed by them as well. Despite being a fun game and perfectly playable, what we are dealing with is a port of a ~12 year old Dreamcast game with the added addition of an unstable framerate and removal of the original shading/lighting. Also, a lot of glitches with graphics/sound as well. The 3DS is CLEARLY a lot more powerful than DC and capable of producing far superior graphics than DC. The only one at fault and the only reason for the downgrade is Ubisoft. That's the sole reason why their games end up looking worse than *insert technically weaker system than 3DS here*. We're seeing other companies making games that are turning heads everywhere, putting some effort into their work. Yet we've got the lazy Ubisoft doing what they do best- underachieving just to make a quick dirty dollar. Just because a game shows a clear lack of visual effort does not mean that's all the parent system is capable of. If that were the case, our benchmark for visual fidelity on SNES would be Mario World instead of DKC (or Mario RPG). Or in terms of N64, we see Mario 64 as the most technically advanced game instead of Conker. I could go on. The point is, you take the BEST of what a system can do to see what it's made of, not purposefully choose the less impressive games.

On the other end of the spectrum, we've got developers like Capcom. Resident Evil Mercenaries and Revelations are both pushing very advanced visuals. Graphically, you can't deny what they've achieved. Regardless of what you try to claim, the games are pushing effects that just would NOT be possible on the PSP whatsoever. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise is in denial (or blind in some way, sorry). Argue all you like about how pretty the games are to your eyes, but the games are using graphical effects that the PSP cannot support. It's called being realistic. It's a shame that some people can't see past their own pride to realize the obvious.

Another good example of what the 3DS can do is Metal Gear Solid 3D. All we've seen is a rushed tech demo, but we've seen enough to see what the 3DS can do when given proper attention. It is also noteworthy that these are early gen games. It's inevitable that games will look even better later on in life.

The raw processing power remains mostly unknown. All we know about the CPU has always been known and obvious- ARM based. The memory at least is quite speedy, apparently superior to DDR2 memory in terms of speed. The CPU will mostly determine what sort of complex AI and physics can be processed. The system can at least hold its own in terms of visuals though.

I've been trying to say that some pages ago, some people are just....

 

[hksrb25s14]

It's SOOOO Powerful it is used to POWER Chuck Norris's House

lol it's just about Powerful as a Ps2 or below it.
So I can see this thing emulating PS1 games.

 

[Melter]

Why do you need 60 fps instead of 30 fps? The human eye can only perceive about 23-24 fps.

the human eye can perceive up to 60 fps. 24fps refers to movie playback, where framrate is different than in games. Movies are streamed at a CONSTANT 24fps, at an even rate (in terms of movie playback 24 frames per second means a CONSTANT one frame every 41.6 milliseconds, this is NOT the case in games, where a frame is sent to the screen as soon as the GPU finishes processing it, which can create a feeling of lag if the framerate is low)