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[Jakob95]

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?

 

[BobTheJoeBob]

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?

Source please.
Honestly, I don't know much about the whole Palestine, Israel situation as it is. I just don't like it when people like you claim everything to be fake because it doesn't fit with your opinion, that's called ignorance.

 

[Jakob95]

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?

Source please.
Honestly, I don't know much about the whole Palestine, Israel situation as it is. I just don't like it when people like you claim everything to be fake because it doesn't fit with your opinion, that's called ignorance.

You need a source of the 6 day war? Is the school system in UK that poor? Go Google search that I have no time for discussing something you should have known about.

And go please to http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/24/world/pa...at-un.html?_r=1 and watch the dam video of both Netanyahus speech and Abbass speech. That should knock some sense into all of you.

 

[Panzer Tacticer]

Time for the PLO to get over it eh.

Massively out numbered in 48 they still won (the Israelis). They totally owned the arabs in 67, and in 73, even when the arabs got it right, they still dropped the ball in the end and lost.

It's time the PLO accepted that are no different than Scots, or the Metis, or the Soux, or the Ainu, or the Zulus, or you know, lots of other people that got defeated and or absorbed in the long history of humanity kicking someone else's butt over some land.

I don't care if the PLO ever get so much as a handful of dirt out of the Israelis.

And no, I have no cultural, or ethnic, or religious connections with either group.

 

[BobTheJoeBob]

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?
Source please.
Honestly, I don't know much about the whole Palestine, Israel situation as it is. I just don't like it when people like you claim everything to be fake because it doesn't fit with your opinion, that's called ignorance.

You need a source of the 6 day war? Is the school system in UK that poor? Go Google search that I have no time for discussing something you should have known about.

And go please to http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/24/world/pa...at-un.html?_r=1 and watch the dam video of both Netanyahus speech and Abbass speech. That should knock some sense into all of you.

Actually, I was referring to these parts:

QUOTE(Jakob95 @ Sep 23 2011, 11:21 PM)

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?

But it's cool, you can continue being a dick about it.

And I'm not watching a 40 minute speech at midnight.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

The Palestinians want to wipe out the whole jewish race and take all of Israel to them selves.

Come on.

It is Palestinian land, and it was stolen from them.

Call it what it is: colonization.

There would be more sympathy for Israel if not for the fact that Israel itself is an act of colonization.

The Palestinians are entitled to fight for their own land.

 

[The_Dragons_Mast]

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?

From where did you get this stuff???? I am not sure how edited the news you get but I am sure there wasn't any thousands dieing from Israel in the war few years ago. Sure Palestanians did some attacks but the death count was far less than even a hundread & Israel made the sky rain bombs over palestine killing way more civilians than terrorists. As for Abass he is just an idiot that is put without most palestinians acceptance & is just full of BS.

Oh & I hope this is enough source for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_War

 

[emigre]

The Palestinians want to wipe out the whole jewish race and take all of Israel to them selves.

Come on.

It is Palestinian land, and it was stolen from them.

Call it what it is: colonization.

There would be more sympathy for Israel if not for the fact that Israel itself is an act of colonization.

The Palestinians are entitled to fight for their own land.

Just have to add us Brits were pretty damn essential in that, Parliament even reconsigned the 1947 partition was unacceptable to both sides.

In B4 I get called anti-Semitic.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

@ Jakob95

I signed the petition if only for the reason that you are spreading propaganda around these boards; not to mention the irrelevant information and smoke screens.


Give it a rest, and take your propaganda elsewhere.

 

[kevan]

We might as well stop arguing, either sign it or don't.

 

[Jakob95]

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?
Source please.
Honestly, I don't know much about the whole Palestine, Israel situation as it is. I just don't like it when people like you claim everything to be fake because it doesn't fit with your opinion, that's called ignorance.

You need a source of the 6 day war? Is the school system in UK that poor? Go Google search that I have no time for discussing something you should have known about.

And go please to http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/24/world/pa...at-un.html?_r=1 and watch the dam video of both Netanyahus speech and Abbass speech. That should knock some sense into all of you.

Both of those things that I said are in the discussed in the video.
Actually, I was referring to these parts:

QUOTE(Jakob95 @ Sep 23 2011, 11:21 PM)

You guys probably already forgot about all the wars that happened in Israel such as the 6-day war, and all the others were the Arabs started first. All they want is war. Just last year there was a terrorist attack in Israel killing thousands you don't see that in the media anytime right? Did you even hear Abassas speech? No jew is allowed to live on the Palestinian Territory and if they do they will be sentenced to death. Do you see Israel doing this?

But it's cool, you can continue being a dick about it.

And I'm not watching a 40 minute speech at midnight.

 

[Jakob95]

The Palestinians want to wipe out the whole jewish race and take all of Israel to them selves.

Come on.

It is Palestinian land, and it was stolen from them.

Call it what it is: colonization.

There would be more sympathy for Israel if not for the fact that Israel itself is an act of colonization.

The Palestinians are entitled to fight for their own land.

First thing first. How did they steal the land if they declared war on Israel first and then Israel one and got the land. Does that mean now Russia has to give up the land they still have that was German land? A part of Germany is still in Russias hands. Or does the United States have to give up there their land back to the British since it was Britians land first? And that whole part was actually Israel 4000 years ago.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

It is not arguing.

It is just drawing attention to the fact the one particular member is overwhelming this thread with irrelevant information that has nothing to do with the colonization of Palestine.


I am just trying to bring some balance into this thread, and introduce the fact that Israel itself was an act of conquest.

 

[kevan]

I guess we can't just drop it then

 

[L-Lawliet]

Zionists believe that the land of Israel was given to them by God (so they take it from palestinians), Muslims believe that if you're land is being threatened then you can retaliate. It's not a great combination.

 

[Jakob95]

It is not arguing.

It is just drawing attention to the fact the one particular member is overwhelming this thread with irrelevant information that has nothing to do with the colonization of Palestine.


I am just trying to bring some balance into this thread, and introduce the fact that Israel itself was an act of conquest.
You are just being ignorant and you know it. Its pretty obvious that Abassas wants the land to bring in weapons into the country. If he that wasn't his goal then he could have negotiated with Israel but he doesn't want to do that. Peace will never happen in that area, this way. This is just leading to a war and the Arab Spring will turn into the Uranium Winter(nuclear war)

QUOTE(L-Lawliet @ Sep 23 2011, 08:03 PM) Zionists believe that the land of Israel was given to them by God (so they take it from palestinians), Muslims believe that if you're land is being threatened then you can retaliate. It's not a great combination.

They are threatening the land of Israel. If you look at it they never want to have any peace agreements, and you hear numerous times how Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants the destruction of Israel.

 

[L-Lawliet]

It is not arguing.

It is just drawing attention to the fact the one particular member is overwhelming this thread with irrelevant information that has nothing to do with the colonization of Palestine.


I am just trying to bring some balance into this thread, and introduce the fact that Israel itself was an act of conquest.
You are just being ignorant and you know it. Its pretty obvious that Abassas wants the land to bring in weapons into the country. If he that wasn't his goal then he could have negotiated with Israel but he doesn't want to do that. Peace will never happen in that area, this way. This is just leading to a war and the Arab Spring will turn into the Uranium Winter(nuclear war)

QUOTE(L-Lawliet @ Sep 23 2011, 08:03 PM) Zionists believe that the land of Israel was given to them by God (so they take it from palestinians), Muslims believe that if you're land is being threatened then you can retaliate. It's not a great combination.

They are threatening the land of Israel. If you look at it they never want to have any peace agreements, and you hear numerous times how Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants the destruction of Israel.

I'm not sure what Ahmadinejad has to do with Palestine. He's Iranian. There have been numerous peace agreements that fell through. Yitzhak Rabin came extremely close to ending the fighting before he got assassinated, by an orthodox jew who didn't agree with him.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

Anyway,

It is obvious that a certain poster in this thread has a little too much invested in the ideological debate.

As an impartial observer, who is neither Jewish nor Muslim, I don't feel the need to troll this thread with smoke screens and fuzzy arguments.


Let them fight it out on the battle field... ... ...onwards and upwards, and on with my day!

 

[Jakob95]

Anyway,

It is obvious that a certain poster in this thread has a little too much invested in the ideological debate.

As an impartial observer, who is neither Jewish nor Muslim, I don't feel the need to troll this thread with smoke screens and fuzzy arguments.


Let them fight it out on the battle field... ... ...onwards and upwards, and on with my day!

Yeah you are right. No point of this topic at all. All of the opinions of the people that posted here are nothing, since no one here could really change anything anyways it doesn't matter what you think since you don't make the choices here. Let the "big man" do there jobs.

 

[KingdomBlade]

Anyway,

It is obvious that a certain poster in this thread has a little too much invested in the ideological debate.

As an impartial observer, who is neither Jewish nor Muslim, I don't feel the need to troll this thread with smoke screens and fuzzy arguments.


Let them fight it out on the battle field... ... ...onwards and upwards, and on with my day!

Yeah you are right. No point of this topic at all. All of the opinions of the people that posted here are nothing, since no one here could really change anything anyways it doesn't matter what you think since you don't make the choices here. Let the "big man" do there jobs.

This is just ridiculous. Opinions may not affect anything in the long run but discussion is acceptable either way.

Y'now Jakob, I think that you'd be a lot more convincing if you didn't seem this goddamn biased and hell-bent that you're opinion is concretely right.