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Nothing to do with being hardcore mate. Some of us just find it to be fun
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I'm sure loads of people get drunk and play video games and you wouldn't think twice about it.

Guitar her is much more fun when drunk.
 

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Believe it or not there's actually safe ways of using illegal substances.

maybe...
but it messes with your brain, and while I dont care if you take the risk of using drugs for your own well-being.

you increase the risk of hurting someone else. through whatever, drug-driving etc. or possible long-term mental issues.



think about that the next time you are raving abou why drugs so good.

I'm not raving that drugs are good. They can be good, bad or horrible.

Just remember that most the information you receive about drugs is distorted/manipulated by the anti-drug parties. They'll do anything they can to stop people from using drugs even if they have to lie about effects they may have on you.

I'd never drug drive and I know plenty of people who drink drive, which is an extremely stupid thing to do. Putting other people's lives at risk is not something I take lightly.

Using drugs over the years have probably increased my overall well-being more than hurting it. It sounds insane but it's true. I've had no negative mental or physical health effects apart from shitty lungs because of smoking tobacco, which is one of the stupidest things I've ever gotten into - and it's legal!

Mental illness isn't caused by drugs unless you have a history of it in your family. In that case it's known to 'trigger' a dormant condition. You can also have drug induced psychosis if you go overboard but I've always been extremely careful with that sort of thing.

Lots of people use drugs (including alcohol) recklessly but I'm fairly actively involved in 'harm reduction' where we try and give people truthful information and safe practices to decrease the harm that can be caused by drugs. We go to raves and concerts where there's a fair bit of drug use and do pill testing where people give us a little scraping of their ecstasy pills and do a marquis reagent test on it. This can help determine if the pill has MDMA which is the standard 'safe' ingredient in E pills or we can also see if there's been other chemicals added to it that may be harmful. Drug suppliers often add cheaper ingredients which is almost always the cause of death when you see a story in the paper saying 'man dies because of ecstasy pill'. MDMA - which is what is supposed to be in pills is actually quite safe. It has about the same level of toxicity as aspirin for instance.

I could go on for ages about this type of thing because I'm very interested in pharmacology but I'll start to bore you guys and this thread really isn't the best place anyway
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but it messes with your brain, and while I dont care if you take the risk of using drugs for your own well-being.
you increase the risk of hurting someone else. through whatever, drug-driving etc. or possible long-term mental issues.
think about that the next time you are raving about why drugs so good.

The problem is the reason why people use various substances. Like anything else, weed or recreational opiates can be just that, recreation, or they can become a dangerous addiction, all depending on your real reason to take them.

There is such a thing as a gambling addiction, a shopping addiction, a web addiction, gaming addiction in general, MMORPG addiction in particular, a text messaging addiction; eating disorders, TV addiction, porn addiction, anything. While some people do these things for fun, some people use those things to escape real life (that's why they're called escapist activities), to avoid facing problems they have, don't admit they have, or don't even realize they have. So they occupy their mind and senses with some random activity, or drink, or drugs, to literally take their mind off things.

That leads to real addiction.

All the other problems stem from there. Get addicted to anything and you'll hurt both yourself and those around you. And (most) drugs don't lead to mental problems (except for depression that you get when you realize you're addicted to drugs and your life is a ruin, but that's something different). Those problems were always there, lurking, and it was probably those problems that led you overboard with drugs or other "occupations" and get yourself addicted, not the other way around.

The point is, you can't demonize just drugs or alcohol for creating addictions, because you can get addicted to many things, and mess up your life, and ruin your health, and hurt those around you, and the real problem lies in your head.
 

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Save the morality for the AA meeting. O_O The man just wanted to know what to play when being high as the sky and stoned as a monkey.
That got answered on the first page. Now in case you haven't noticed, both cubin' and I are defending recreational drugs. Is that really "morality"?
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I think it's funny. A guy asks what game to play when, and the thread turned into Taxi Cab Confessions.
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My guess would be something in a different language....
 

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well who ever posts a title "good games to play on acid" really is looking to cause a stir...

and not really looking for good games to play on acid.



honestly...


the next time this guy is on acid.... is he gonna be looking up this thread, putting games on his flashcard and playing them?




...i think not.
 
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Not a lot of stuff is that expensive.
Weed, acid, and other softcore drugs aren't hard to come by.
Some clubs actually give out E.
 

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Seriously, how many of you guys are on drugs? I don't have a huge problem with druggies, but seriously, why do you need some substances that are illegal and expensive just to feel happier for a bit? I don't quite get it.


(disclaimer - I'm not saying drugs are good. They have the potential to cause harm; as does chocolate cake)

It's not that we're on drugs all the time
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. These 'druggies' that you talk about are a very small part of all drug users but they stick out like a sore thumb which is probably why people get confused and think all recreational drug users are like that. It's kinda like calling everyone that's tried alcohol an alcoholic. Most of the drug users I know are normal people, you wouldn't be able to tell they use drugs unless they told you. They hold down steady jobs such as lawyers and doctors (and business executives
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Most recreational drug users don't take drugs to be happier - they use them to have fun and relax for the most part. For someone that isn't experienced in this kind of culture I'd liken it to playing a video game or having a few beers with some mates, it's not like they 'need' to have these substances to feel happy..it's just something fun to do. Other people choose to take drugs for a spiritual experience or to help with meditation etc. Just like in every group of people there's the drug abusers who take things too far and end up relying on drugs for happiness or end up getting addicted and ruining their lives.

Here's an interesting graph I found on the DEA website.

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This graph isn't showing such a big difference because there's so many more users of alcohol and tobacco. It's looking at the averages per 100,000.

Source - The DEADEA

The danger of illegal drugs has always been exaggerated by governments and other groups. I'm not saying they're completely safe or everyone should go out and take them but they're certainly not as evil and destructive as most people think. I think it's important to get correct facts and information so people can make their own educated decisions.

I hope you don't think I'm talking down to you and I certainly don't think I'm 'better' for using drugs occasionally. Just trying to let some people know the actual facts.

These graphs speak for themselves. Focusing on the potential harm of all drugs rather than just the illegal ones is important.

(note: the following graphs are not averages they're cumulative)

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Illegal drugs VS Legal drugs deaths.

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About the cost thing - You can pick up many different substances for around the same price as 4 or 5 beers at a pub or club. So instead of getting drunk on a friday or saturday night some people will go get a bag of weed or a couple hits of LSD or a few pills. It's often cheaper than a night out drinking.
 

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I don't know why I clicked on this topic.... I don't care.

But Cubin'? All those graphs are hogwash. They compare legal versus illegal drug deaths. Of course there are going to be more legal drug deaths. Legal drugs are easier to obtain. If illegal drugs were made legal, you'd see their total statistics rise too.

You need to show graphs that show fatalities by percentage of the user base of the drug in question, rather than the total fatalities. (Made up example: 50% of tobacco users die from tobacco related illnesses) Otherwise, you're just posting graphs that say what you want to say.

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
 

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This one did the averages and it's on the drug enforcement agency's website. Got anything to counter that?

I thought the other ones were also averages but I guess I didn't look closely enough..even if they aren't averages it doesn't make them hogwash.

I'm not posting the graphs because they say what I want to say. They're valid data I'll get the sources for you.

Do you agree that if the data used in these statistics can be verified they're not lies
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Yeah - obviously if more people were using illegal drugs more deaths would be caused by them. My point is that legal drugs can be dangerous as well as illegal ones. How many campaigns that warn against legal drug use have you seen? There's none. As soon as kids start school they get it drilled into them that illegal drugs are bad but no information is given to warn against the use of legal ones. I'm just saying they should warn against ALL drugs..not just the illegal ones.
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Source - http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/...ntox-deaths.htm. The source they use for the raw data is from the Centers for Disease Control.
 

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