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lol I read about 20 pages of 997 XD
The previous 997 pages of this thread
lol I read about 20 pages of 997 XD
I hope they will release it within 8 days cuz i want shiny beldum in pokemon omega ruby!
2014-12-05 12:51 Electronic Information added by sender @ SHEN ZHEN
2014-12-05 12:58 Electronic Information confirmed by sender @ SHEN ZHEN
2014-12-05 19:48 Scanned by Espeed Post @ SHEN ZHEN
2014-12-05 23:03 Being processed by Espeed Post @ SHEN ZHEN
2014-12-06 15:00 Handed over to Swiss Post @ SINGAPORE
2014-12-09 00:00 Départ @ CH
2014-12-09 10:52 ITM_EXP_10 Mailed @ Asendia Asia
2014-12-09 10:52 ITM_EXP_20 Arrival at border point of origin country @ Asendia Asia
2014-12-09 10:52 ITM_EXP_60 Departure from border point of origin country @ Asendia Asia
2015-01-06 13:54 ITM_EXP_170 Arrival at border point of destination country @ FRCDGA
997 pages , W E A R E G E T T I N G T H E R E B O Y S
After MORE THAN 1 MONTH, something new finally appeared in my parcel tracking!
I guess i need to show you the real power of Groudon.Omega Ruby is no match for Alpha Sapphire.
followed your ideau could buy it and then sell it through ebay. Since its limited. you could ask for higher prices? and make a bit of profit out of it
For the ppl (like me) who imported a N3DS because of Gateway support, the Ambassador Model launching this month in Europe and the constant delay of this GW update is making me wonder if it was worthwhile the effort.
I mean i remember the store that sold me the original 3DS at launch had the consoles in the supplier stock for over 3 months before release date, so it wouldn't surprise me if those Ambassador models are 9.0—9.2 models.
Your lucky it doesn't need a new firmware for this one if it comes out on time then .I hope they will release it within 8 days cuz i want shiny beldum in pokemon omega ruby!
what ambassador model for EU?
Confirmed by whom? The Gateway team has not released anything specific about how they will be doing their exploit, so I would go so far as to say it is not confirmed. There has long been speculation that the MiiPlaza thing is probably just about the only way such an exploit could be brought about. This makes sense and it does mean that it's very likely that it will be the basic gist of it if not verbatim. However, it's still speculation plain and simple. We don't know that's the way they're doing it or that it's the only way possible to exploit the system at this point. Imagine, just for instance, if they found a way to sign code and put something on the memory card that forces it to accept the Gateway cartridge (just a for-instance off the top of my head, there are probably better examples one could think up especially with more info about how these things work.) I want to be clear, I'm not necessarily saying that's even possible, it's just an example that there might be ways that haven't even been considered so far. The fact of the matter is, he just took the Ninjahax instructions and modified them to MiiPlaza and that's it. IF we use the MiiPlaza method, then yes, his guide will be correct kind of by default. But if it turns out there actually was some other way people haven't been considering then suddenly it's meaningless...
It just bothers me with all this stuff because I'm seeing so much assumption and speculation with little or no basis backing it. I mean, it makes sense to say that the MiiPlaza has the most potential for this sort of exploit, but at the same time, we shouldn't assume it is the exploit, only that it is the most likely candidate from what we currently know.
I guess the real point here is just how extreme they were willing to go to take advantage of their users. Applying the limitation in the first place was utterly meaningless as far as compatibility or etc goes -- it was solely to force people to have to buy new carts as they hit the limitation. It just bothers me that they essentially made their entire business model around directly and intentionally screwing people over. I don't claim the Gateway team is perfect by a long shot (though we'll have to disagree on the bricking thing. It's not clear if that was actually intentional from what I've read as it sounds like it has more to do with the clone carts using some conflicting code among other things, which is always a danger when one tries to rip off the undocumented closed works of another.) All I personally say is that between the two, Gateway at least tries to offer some value and Sky3DS was in business from the beginning to rip people off.
When the first, highly unstable,CFWwas out - i.e., when you could use it, and all of it's functionality (most relevantly in this case, install .CIA's) without ever needing to buy any GW hardware (i.e. when they were forced to by their competition).
Prior to GW supporting DevMenu, you would've had to buy one (1) GW-kit (or at the very least GW Red Cart) per console you wanted to use it on - but now that it supports DevMenu, you only need one (1) cart all-in-all, as you can just install .CIA's to all but one of your consoles, and use the red cart with that one (or not at all, if you'd prefer).
I don't know that this is really comparable though. Integrating devmenu into Gateway's systems isn't necessarily as simple as you might think. I wouldn't really say it was an intentional limitation or even trying to hold back or anything to squeeze out more profit so much as them just lagging behind the scene perhaps out of necessity, perhaps just out of being slow (and we've definitely established beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Gateway team will win no awards for speed here.) More importantly, I would argue that devmenu is just on a radically different scale. Sky3DS disabling adding any new ROMs after an arbitrarily pre-set (and quite low) limit originally essentially applied a severe functionality limit solely for the sake of gaining more profit. Devmenu, by comparison, is not even on the same scale. It allows the use of things like installing CIAs and not really a whole lot else that the average user can really do anything with (I guess the play coin thing might be kind of nice for those few games where they have some use, but even then it's ridiculously simple to get your play coin count up higher than you know what to do with just by taking a ride somewhere with the system in hand or pocket -- apparently just the vibrations of a moving vehicle are sufficient to raise the counter in my experience with no actual walking needed. And of course one can just shake the system for a while.) So that's physically disabling itself versus a bonus feature. Not really comparable to me at least. (Sorry, I just stick to the apples to apples, oranges to oranges philosophy. If you were using this in reverse and arguing Sky3DS was bad because of something they've done that isn't comparable I would still have to go against it as it just isn't a valid comparison.)
Here's the thing: nothing else actually makes any sense. A lot of people are waiting to buy Gateway cartridges until the update is released. Some are threatening to sell theirs (and remember, even if that does mean there was one original sale, them selling it to someone else used means that instead of two sales you have one because the used sale is $0.00 to the hardware makers. So they don't want used sales, they want people to want to buy their product.) They've also stated on their own website even that they don't really officially have FB, Twitter, and etc and that any e-mail not directly coming from them to you should be assumed to be fake. If they really were trying to convince people of this stuff, they'd be releasing more updates right on their website stating "almost there, get ready" or etc. Instead it's just one update saying "thanks for your patience, we're still working on it, but it's just around the corner." Nothing specific, no statements of before Christmas or before the end of the week or any of that. (Actually, I'm beginning to think that even if the e-mails weren't fake it might be a disparity between people who actually handle the e-mail aspect of things and the team doing the development. If they aren't actually the same people, I wouldn't be shocked if the ones handling the e-mails were indeed saying things that weren't necessarily 100% correct based on the team stating that it's almost done or whatever.)
Aren't you breaking your own supposition then? All of the "heavily written to imply" statements except for only the one are from the e-mails we assume here are false. The only "heavily implied" statement from Gateway we can actually prove is true is the one on their website stating only "just around the corner" (which you have to admit is a bit of a stretch to say actually is directly stating it will be out, say, by the end of the week" or whatever. It's true it implies it will be soon, but the implication is so loose and left open that I don't think anyone really actually can rightly assume from "just around the corner" that they are explicitly stating or implying that it's really that soon...)
Alright, here's where we're just going to have to agree to disagree I guess. To me and everyone I know, this is just too vague to really mean we should be assuming anything so specific as "by the weekend" or "on January 2nd" or all of these other assumptions going around. "Just around the corner" simply implies to me and everyone I personally know "it's really close" which, in other words, isn't really saying anything. No one I know would draw any conclusions from that. Now, we could argue that many people would draw such conclusions -- such is human nature I suppose -- but if we stop and think about this for a moment, isn't it more likely that they would feel -- as myself and all I know do -- that this isn't a statement which would lead people to assume anything too specific? It's certainly not, as you frequently imply, very carefully written to specifically fool people. It's just a simply vague statement, nothing more. At this point I'm going to have to say you're reading a bit too much into this...
Anyway, at this point I'm starting to disagree with you after all. Your definition of "fanboyism" is rather beginning to appear to be "anyone currently in favor of them over a competitor." Fanboyism is more along the lines of, for instance, the Apple fanatics who will line up at the Apple store the night before a release day with the assumption everything Apple makes is automatically good rather than actually shopping around and looking at alternatives (and I've found that if one actually researches there is always a cheaper product with more features.) In fact, in this case, most fanboyism generally gravitates towards Sky3DS. It's a simple case of "oh, it works with the latest!" and etc where the marketing and hype fool them into rushing into spending more for a product that offers less in actual features -- that or just plain being too much in a hurry. The fact of the matter is, none of the products here are perfect and they never will be, but, unless you're going so far as to say that the Gateway team is outright lying (which would ultimately be shooting themselves in the foot and guaranteeing that they go out of business -- I don't think any of these first-party groups are that shortsighted, though I could see argument for some of the third party groups that make clones perhaps making shortsighted quick money grabs) the fact is, it's the product that doesn't fits the bill of the non-fanboy product (more features, lower price, less marketing, etc.)
I guess i need to show you the real power of Groudon.