Hacking FakeDetector & FakeRecovery_v1.16a

[Mikef]

The fakedetector is saying that my cart is fake even though I got it months before the first fakes and have been running the 1.16 firmware for a while now. I'd say that it doesn't detect the older carts accurately.

What chip did it say your TTDS has?

BTW when it says 'True' that means it's real.

 

[david432111]

Oh, ok. I thought true meant that it was fake.

 

[Mikef]

It's confusing.
True means it's Real (or unknown).
Fake means it's Fake.

 

[kobykaan]

ok additional discovery with another TTDS fake that was brought to me today to fix or try fix .....

testing the card (obvious fake signs on the board GOLD DOT )

Turning my ds lite on the card wasnt even recognised by the ds no matter how may times it was reinserted or restarted!

tested in PHAT ds still the same!

DEAD CARD

so a bit of messing about and testing followed ...

load TTDS FAKE TESTER on M3 REAL card swap to busted not recognized TTDS card result NOT EVEN DETECTED!

load TTDS RECOVERY swap to none working card again not recognized

same situation with second recovery release TTDS FLASH WRITER not recognized

then a brainwave struck me ...load recovery program swap in a REAL TTDS card and swap immediately after it was detected to fake card in the hope it would just flash the broken card on the fly ..result message ERASE ERROR ...

not going well here .....

so carried on testing trying to get busted card to even boot no result ..

second brainwave hit me load fake recovery software to mem card load REAL TTDS card then swap to busted card before loading the recovery program from the TTDS menu ...


nothing .... it just hung for a while and did nothing no loading progress bar just the loading dots on the left of the loading bar ....

so ..... turned the ds off with the busted card in there and turned it back on immediately ... and HEY PRESTO the familiar TTDS logo ... and it booted! whooooooooooooot!

ran the recovery restored the 1.15 non bricker kernel and it fully works again now

 

[Bri]

Can someone try this version out and confirm whether or not it's 1.16 and whether or not it will kill a fake? It's supposed to have the fake-killer code disabled.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zmzydmwmnjz

See this thread for more info: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=125946

-Bri

 

[aimansss95]

do you think mine is fake?? well i already dwnld the latest firmware and doesn;t have any problem with it....i don't know wether it's hv a fake-killer or not

 

[Bri]

If you can open yours up, you can check to see if it's a fake by comparing it to the ones here: http://www.ndstt.com/anti_fake.html

If you can't open it up, you can try running the FakeDetector program on it here: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=4086

Either way, you should be safe if you run this firmware: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=2872

-Bri

 

[aimansss95]

thanks a lot!! the safest is the 3rd option right??

 

[Bri]

Yes, just use this firmware and you should be safe whether your DSTT is real or fake: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=2872

If your DSTT isn't working and you suspect that it's been destroyed by the fake-killer firmware, you need to determine if it's fake and then run the FakeRecovery program on it (it's in the same archive as the FakeDetector program linked to above). After you recover a destroyed fake, put the "safe" firmware on it so it doesn't get destroyed again.

-Bri

 

[aimansss95]

um...i just copy it into my micro sd and ran it when i opened my ds right?? man i'm scared

 

[kobykaan]

If you can open yours up, you can check to see if it's a fake by comparing it to the ones here: http://www.ndstt.com/anti_fake.html

If you can't open it up, you can try running the FakeDetector program on it here: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=4086

Either way, you should be safe if you run this firmware: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=2872

-Bri

testing it now

edit SO FAR SO GOOD!

no issues as yet ...fake killer usually kicks in at about 2nd or 4th reboot this as survived 10 or more...

It loads 2838 which 1.16 is supposed to fix !? (not even sure what the issue was with 2838? don't read JAP lol)

 

[aimansss95]

kobykaan!! what's the result?

edit - testing it now!! wish me luck guys

 

[aimansss95]

well mine say it's true...but there's something odd about it...i watch the vid from dstt and what it shows (true and fake) are different from the one that bri gave... the vid shows a rather...colourful true or fake..is it the same

 

[Bri]

If you can open yours up, you can check to see if it's a fake by comparing it to the ones here: http://www.ndstt.com/anti_fake.html

If you can't open it up, you can try running the FakeDetector program on it here: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=4086

Either way, you should be safe if you run this firmware: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=2872

-Bri


testing it now

edit SO FAR SO GOOD!

no issues as yet ...fake killer usually kicks in at about 2nd or 4th reboot this as survived 10 or more...

It loads 2838 which 1.16 is supposed to fix !? (not even sure what the issue was with 2838? don't read JAP lol)


I wanted you to test this one: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zmzydmwmnjz

Not the one I linked to in the post you quoted (that's just the "safe" version of 1.15).

I wanted you to confirm that (1) it's 1.16 (it should say so on the screen), and (2) that it won't kill a fake (it's supposed to have the fake-killer code disabled).

QUOTE(aimansss95 @ Dec 29 2008, 01:00 PM)

well mine say it's true...but there's something odd about it...i watch the vid from dstt and what it shows (true and fake) are different from the one that bri gave... the vid shows a rather...colourful true or fake..is it the same

No, that's not the same software that's on the video. That's some homebrew that someone wrote to detect fakes (the one in the video on the ndstt website is some software that the DSTT team wrote to demonstrate their fake-killer code).

-Bri

 

[aimansss95]

it's still the same right?? well i'm glad mine said that it's true

 

[Bri]

It's probably real if FakeDetector said that it is, although that program has given false positives if it can't read the flash cart or doesn't recognize it.

Your best bet is to open it up and take a look inside. If you can't tell, post a picture of the insides here and we'll help you determine if it's real. You can sometimes tell without opening up the flash cart. Take a look at this post: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?s=&showto...t&p=1584543

-Bri

 

[kobykaan]

If you can open yours up, you can check to see if it's a fake by comparing it to the ones here: http://www.ndstt.com/anti_fake.html

If you can't open it up, you can try running the FakeDetector program on it here: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=4086

Either way, you should be safe if you run this firmware: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=2872

-Bri


testing it now

edit SO FAR SO GOOD!

no issues as yet ...fake killer usually kicks in at about 2nd or 4th reboot this as survived 10 or more...

It loads 2838 which 1.16 is supposed to fix !? (not even sure what the issue was with 2838? don't read JAP lol)


I wanted you to test this one: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zmzydmwmnjz

Not the one I linked to in the post you quoted (that's just the "safe" version of 1.15).

I wanted you to confirm that (1) it's 1.16 (it should say so on the screen), and (2) that it won't kill a fake (it's supposed to have the fake-killer code disabled).

QUOTE(aimansss95 @ Dec 29 2008, 01:00 PM)

well mine say it's true...but there's something odd about it...i watch the vid from dstt and what it shows (true and fake) are different from the one that bri gave... the vid shows a rather...colourful true or fake..is it the same

No, that's not the same software that's on the video. That's some homebrew that someone wrote to detect fakes (the one in the video on the ndstt website is some software that the DSTT team wrote to demonstrate their fake-killer code).

-Bri

I did Bri I used the 1.16 from the mediafire link you posted it says 1.16 on the screen (wiki0055.zip)

see the rest of my edited post for my test results it seems to be ok so far

 

[Bri]

Cool, thanks kobykaan. If you don't run into any problems with it, I'll post it to the download area.

By the way, any idea what this does: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?w2tjjoyj2gz

More information is available on the following thread, but I still can't figure out what it's supposed to do (and my DSTT isn't in working condition): http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=125946

-Bri

 

[kobykaan]

Cool, thanks kobykaan. If you don't run into any problems with it, I'll post it to the download area.

By the way, any idea what this does: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?w2tjjoyj2gz

More information is available on the following thread, but I still can't figure out what it's supposed to do (and my DSTT isn't in working condition): http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=125946

-Bri

its version 3 of the flash recovery nds file Bri (although still needs the .bin file from the first release) it recovers more chips apparently they used at least 30 - 40 different types of chips in the variants of clones !? ... their codes are listed on the other thread v3 recovery program recovers all those variants so far

can you not recover yer TTDS using another slot 1 ds card just remember you need the TTDS.BIN file in the root along with the DSTTFLASHWRITER.nds v3 release ...

executing the nds file on another card prompts you to switch cards to the killed fake ....

once its swapped you press A and it re writes the fakes internal memory with the original data from the bin (its loaded temporary to ds memory) so you can use 1.15 again or the newly discovered 1.16 none killer kernel

 

[Bri]

So I have the following files:

FakeRecovery.nds
DsttFlashWriter.nds
DsttFlashWriter.nds (v2)
DsttFlashWriter.nds (v3)

Are these all different versions of the same application?

-Bri