1. chartube12

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    this game was currently the companies only stable source of in_come. without the cash from disney they had to shut and layoff every last employee. even the founder is now broke
     
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    This has always been the case, as of lately. Countless great AAA titles had little or no profit while many indie games or small gaming projects got a lot of money. The only way for a multi-million dollars game to make enough money to satisfy everyone is by making money off other things, such as DLCs, preorders, or even in-game currencies. Every year more and more gamers wait for a considerable discount before purchasing anything while making fun of people for buying something day-one or preordering or even playing some games like Call of Duty or football games. Or games where the fandom has been extra cringey.
     
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    Started the game after I read this. What is the problem actualy. I have no trouble playing the game.
     
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    am I the only one who just knew this game today? :rofl2:
     
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    anhminh Pirate since 2010
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    Who would have guess the next video gaming crash started by EA. :D

    You just looking at the surface of indie world. Below every Minecraft or Flappy Bird are hundreds of dead games that no one bother to look at and many dreams that die along with it.
     
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  6. Memoir

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    Anyone claiming that players deserve refunds are baffling. There's a chance the servers of any given game could shut down at any point. Whether it's in a few weeks, months or years. The only instance I can see of warranted refunds are if the game shuts down within a year of public release. Any longer and its a risk the player should know by reading the EULA.. But hey... Who has the time?
     
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    Guess this is a perfect example of why people should read the rules and user agreement first before they play the game. Developers often made a statement like "no refund" or "we can shutdown this game anytime we want" things there. So, if there really is such a statement, then people should think twice before actually spending real money on the game. Only spend your money if you're willing to take the risk. Unfortunately though, i believe that at least 99.999999% of gamers in this world never really bothered to read the user agreement completely, and just immediately scroll to the bottom and click 'i agree'. Many of them didn't realized that the user agreement part is considered the same as any official document for business, which you had to read every single detail before you signed them. And now that there's a problem, they just whining and complaining? What use for that, really?
     
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    This why you dont buy digital, servers and licences will be obsolete in time.
     
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    As this is a F2P MMO buying a physical copy would be less than useless in this situation.
     
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    This game?

    You don't need to. Once you've played one Free to Play game, you've played them all.

    It goes like this: You pay, you win.
     
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    Noctosphere Adoptive father of my kitty named Zelda
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    true
     
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    I have played free games where paying only provides you with another skin, your choice of character or another weapon that is similar enough to the others to not be overpowered or so radically different as to allow another mode of play whilst not overpowering your team.

    At the same time I do see an awful lot of games where paying gives you a serious advantage and that is not good.
     
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    Never heard of them, so I don't really care...
     
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    She's Gwen Stacy from an alternate Earth. "Spider-Gwen". Seriously way too many Spider characters in Marvel Comics.... :rolleyes:
     
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    Precisely. You're pointing out the good games. Unfortunately there's only a handful of those, if that.

    The vast majority of games within the Free to Play model, rely on big spenders and bought advantages.

    However a common misconception that I see scattered around the internet, is that some people believe these games do this to survive. No. That is incorrect. It is not to survive. These games do this for one simple reason:

    Get as much money out of it, before the FREE players get bored of getting nowhere and leave the game. Without the FREE players as prey to conquer for the big spenders, the game will die in a very short time span.


    The good F2P games (as you pointed out) are well balanced and you cannot Pay to Win. You can only buy cosmetics or other items that do not mess with the ranking system and your overall performance. Yet, they live-on. Those are the true F2P games, that survive and do not try to scam people out of as much money as possible before abandoning them.
     
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    i agree
    even those like PVZ2, you can earn virtual money to move forward by watching ads
    if you want to go somewhere watching ads, you to watch like 1 hour of ads straight
     
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    Back in the days of Nokia, there is one chinese game that make everything free after spending two dollars.
     
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    Indeed.

    We usually tend to forget that games are businesses first and foremost. No one is going to lift a finger, certainly not to make an entire game, if they do not think they have a reasonable chance of filling their pockets.

    There's nothing wrong with that. You should get paid for your hard work and innovation. However there is a limit to this, and if nothing else, there are plenty of ethical reasons to not go ahead with certain actions within a F2P game's lifetime.

    The story is always the same:

    People talking about this brand new amazing Free to Play game, where everything is well balanced, purchases are incredibly cheap, don't affect gameplay too much, and little grinding.

    Once the game has acquired a solid player-base, updates will follow. What are these updates? You guessed it. These so called "updates" serve only one purpose. To increase the prices on everything, de-balance the gameplay, and take every possible action to ensure you will have to keep paying more and more, if you want to keep playing and WINNING with your level 78 Knight.

    This is where the downfall begins. But before the downfall begins, hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent. Once everyone catches on to it, people leave, the big spenders have no more prey, and they leave the game as well. The game is now officially dead.

    Next step? Rinse and repeat.

    Create the next revolutionary game that is unlike everything else until now, well balanced, everything is cheap and....oh....

    You get the picture.

    Welcome to the free to scam model.
     
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  20. willebug

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    No idea. My son plays/played the game a bit but I never really paid any attention. I'm sure they crammed as much stuff in there as possible. There were all kinds of character bundles you could buy for the game.
     
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