Homebrew DSi Homebrew Channel (IDEA)

[TrolleyDave]

Well is there anyone here who has a DSi, Phantom Hourglass and an SD card so they can.. I don't know.. TRY IT before saying it's fake?

It doesn't need to be tried to see that it's a fake.

!) There's no DS program in the zip file attached to the YouTube video.
2) There's no save file to transfer over to the Zelda cart which contains code to access the SD card slot.
3) In DS mode the DSi has no access to the DSi hardware, so what he's claiming isn't physically possible.
4) The file inside the zip is a PSP homebrew game, unless someone has cleverly written a PSP emulator for the DS it won't run.

Do you know how a save exploit works? I have a better chance of winning every state lottery in the world on the same evening then there's a chance that somehow a bug in the Zelda code when talking to one person in the game allows access to hardware that hadn't actually been created at the time, specally one that allows PSP code to run. It's like saying transferring an Amiga game to your 360 memory and loading up Dead Rising and speaking to a character in the game will allow backups to be played on the 360.

Edit : Have you looked at the other videos he's posted on YouTube?

 

[Sarvesh50]

Well is there anyone here who has a DSi, Phantom Hourglass and an SD card so they can.. I don't know.. TRY IT before saying it's fake?

If that noob was copying a sav file than its fake think good the ds stores it sav in ???? jes the cartridge why should an ds sav game be asaved on a dsi???
Maybe that dsi sav games will be saved on the dsi but the change is 50|50 why? well you did see what happend to the wii right ...

 

[Kingfield]

........ those who said brute-forcing a 128 bit encryption.... is anyone here with a computing background at all?

If we got ALL the computers in the world RIGHT NOW to do NOTHING but brute force this single 128 bit key it would still take at least a thousand years to break it (if we're lucky)!!!! Until a quantum computer has been invented, I suggest you guys try something else. Hilarious.

retard. I suggest you check your sources, because they are WAY off.

Way off in which sense? I hope you mean that it would take a lot longer time than a thousand years... because when I say a thousand years I really mean we're lucky like winning the lottery. Otherwise, I suggest you log off and move to another forum that welcomes retards. A computer that is able to handle a million key attempts a second would take significantly longer than the age of the universe to crack a 128 bit encryption (obviously depends on your encryption algorithm, we should assume it is coded properly, not by idiots).

EDIT: I think some of you are confused with cracking a 128 bit wireless network and cracking a 128 bit encryption key. They are worlds apart.

I think you don't realize how many computers there are in the world, as well as the speed of some of the supercomputers around the world.

 

[darkriku2000]

........ those who said brute-forcing a 128 bit encryption.... is anyone here with a computing background at all?

If we got ALL the computers in the world RIGHT NOW to do NOTHING but brute force this single 128 bit key it would still take at least a thousand years to break it (if we're lucky)!!!! Until a quantum computer has been invented, I suggest you guys try something else. Hilarious.

retard. I suggest you check your sources, because they are WAY off.

Way off in which sense? I hope you mean that it would take a lot longer time than a thousand years... because when I say a thousand years I really mean we're lucky like winning the lottery. Otherwise, I suggest you log off and move to another forum that welcomes retards. A computer that is able to handle a million key attempts a second would take significantly longer than the age of the universe to crack a 128 bit encryption (obviously depends on your encryption algorithm, we should assume it is coded properly, not by idiots).

EDIT: I think some of you are confused with cracking a 128 bit wireless network and cracking a 128 bit encryption key. They are worlds apart.

I think you don't realize how many computers there are in the world, as well as the speed of some of the supercomputers around the world.

Well, I doubt that anybody on this website has a super computer (they might, you never know), anyways, while the chances of finding the common key via the brute forcer are VERY HIGHLY improbable, it's still (slightly) better than doing nothing

 

[helmon1]

........ those who said brute-forcing a 128 bit encryption.... is anyone here with a computing background at all?

If we got ALL the computers in the world RIGHT NOW to do NOTHING but brute force this single 128 bit key it would still take at least a thousand years to break it (if we're lucky)!!!! Until a quantum computer has been invented, I suggest you guys try something else. Hilarious.

retard. I suggest you check your sources, because they are WAY off.

Way off in which sense? I hope you mean that it would take a lot longer time than a thousand years... because when I say a thousand years I really mean we're lucky like winning the lottery. Otherwise, I suggest you log off and move to another forum that welcomes retards. A computer that is able to handle a million key attempts a second would take significantly longer than the age of the universe to crack a 128 bit encryption (obviously depends on your encryption algorithm, we should assume it is coded properly, not by idiots).

EDIT: I think some of you are confused with cracking a 128 bit wireless network and cracking a 128 bit encryption key. They are worlds apart.

I think you don't realize how many computers there are in the world, as well as the speed of some of the supercomputers around the world.

I think you are the one who has no idea. You should really try to get some understanding into encryption and possible mathematics before you talk anymore. There is no way in hell that all the computers in the world (including supercomputers, cpus on all electrical appliances) TODAY can even attempt to break a 128 bit encryption key in less than a few thousand years and that's if we're extremely lucky.

Here's a simply calculation:
Taking this as the fastest supercomputer: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/...ter-ibm-sequoia
That's 20 quadrillion calculations per second. That's 20*(10^15) per second!

The number of combinations in a 128 bit encryption key: 2^128

Let's say we have 1 BILLION of these supercomputers. Are you happy with that figure? One BILLION supercomputers that's 1 supercomputer for every 7 people on earth, roughly.

Assuming one calculation on the super computer is able to attempt one key combination and verify that attempt. Now let's calculate.

(2^128)/((20^16)*(10^9)) = 1.7*10^13 seconds
Translated into years: 539514

Assuming we have a BILLION of these supercomputers at the moment it will still take us about half a million years. Now go back to where ever you came from and next time if you have no idea about something, don't say anything. Thank you.

Edit: I was actually way off target. It would take probably a lot more than a thousands to break even with extreme luck.

 

[Uruha]

anything happened since ive been gone?!?!?

 

[Spartan A24]

anything happened since ive been gone?!?!?

Just some people arguing over trivial, meaningless things on the internet. Nothing new here.

 

[MissingNo._]

And yet we still talk on this topic about stuff that doesn't even really have to do with the DSi Homebrew Channel even when the DSi Common Key has not been found yet.

 

[houseonfire]

........ those who said brute-forcing a 128 bit encryption.... is anyone here with a computing background at all?

If we got ALL the computers in the world RIGHT NOW to do NOTHING but brute force this single 128 bit key it would still take at least a thousand years to break it (if we're lucky)!!!! Until a quantum computer has been invented, I suggest you guys try something else. Hilarious.

retard. I suggest you check your sources, because they are WAY off.

Way off in which sense? I hope you mean that it would take a lot longer time than a thousand years... because when I say a thousand years I really mean we're lucky like winning the lottery. Otherwise, I suggest you log off and move to another forum that welcomes retards. A computer that is able to handle a million key attempts a second would take significantly longer than the age of the universe to crack a 128 bit encryption (obviously depends on your encryption algorithm, we should assume it is coded properly, not by idiots).

EDIT: I think some of you are confused with cracking a 128 bit wireless network and cracking a 128 bit encryption key. They are worlds apart.

I think you don't realize how many computers there are in the world, as well as the speed of some of the supercomputers around the world.

I think you are the one who has no idea. You should really try to get some understanding into encryption and possible mathematics before you talk anymore. There is no way in hell that all the computers in the world (including supercomputers, cpus on all electrical appliances) TODAY can even attempt to break a 128 bit encryption key in less than a few thousand years and that's if we're extremely lucky.

Here's a simply calculation:
Taking this as the fastest supercomputer: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/...ter-ibm-sequoia
That's 20 quadrillion calculations per second. That's 20*(10^15) per second!

The number of combinations in a 128 bit encryption key: 2^128

Let's say we have 1 BILLION of these supercomputers. Are you happy with that figure? One BILLION supercomputers that's 1 supercomputer for every 7 people on earth, roughly.

Assuming one calculation on the super computer is able to attempt one key combination and verify that attempt. Now let's calculate.

(2^128)/((20^16)*(10^9)) = 1.7*10^13 seconds
Translated into years: 539514

Assuming we have a BILLION of these supercomputers at the moment it will still take us about half a million years. Now go back to where ever you came from and next time if you have no idea about something, don't say anything. Thank you.

Edit: I was actually way off target. It would take probably a lot more than a thousands to break even with extreme luck.

That's how long it would take to complete every possible combination.
Now since the bruteforcer we are using is random.. It's highly unlikely that the correct combination will be the last to be found.

 

[helmon1]

That's how long it would take to complete every possible combination.
Now since the bruteforcer we are using is random.. It's highly unlikely that the correct combination will be the last to be found.

houseonfire, you need to learn a bit about probability, statistics and maths. Attempting it in RANDOM ORDER sequences has the same probability of finding it as attempting them IN-ORDER..... it makes no difference.

 

[xDlmaoxD]

helmon1 your the bigger retard for trying to explain it to these idiots that think a youtube hack is real even someone saying "don't say it doesn't work until you try it". Also we have smart people(maybe not here) that can code, no need for the common key, just wait. Let these people keep making themselves look like idiots no need to educate the dumb, like in society the educated advance.

 

[Spartan A24]

@houseonfire
AGGHH!! Pyramid of quotes!!!

 

[houseonfire]

That's how long it would take to complete every possible combination.
Now since the bruteforcer we are using is random.. It's highly unlikely that the correct combination will be the last to be found.

houseonfire, you need to learn a bit about probability, statistics and maths. Attempting it in RANDOM ORDER sequences has the same probability of finding it as attempting them IN-ORDER..... it makes no difference.

That makes no sense.
When its going random, it will randomly check each possible match.
Although its possible for the value to be the last one on the list, the value is more likely to be randomly guessed before the last value is hit on the program that is going in order.

 

[Skyline969]

That makes no sense.
When its going random, it will randomly check each possible match.
Although its possible for the value to be the last one on the list, the value is more likely to be randomly guessed before the last value is hit on the program that is going in order.

Not true. The probability is the same either way. Randomly or sequentially will yield the same results. Who knows - if the value is within the first thousand or two possible outcomes, then a sequential order would be a better choice because a random choice may not get that value for a long time. The same goes for if it's at the end of the list of outcomes. A random choice might hit it sooner than a sequential one, but who's to say it will?

 

[helmon1]

That makes no sense.
When its going random, it will randomly check each possible match.
Although its possible for the value to be the last one on the list, the value is more likely to be randomly guessed before the last value is hit on the program that is going in order.

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage. I give up. I'm using probability theory to tell you that, it does not matter if it it random or sequential, the probability of guessing the key is exactly the same.....and you're using some sort of home-made-so-called-logical-sense to argue with me.

Edit: You can only say ex-post whether using random or sequential is better, that is... only once you have found the actual key combination. Not ex-ante.

 

[Spartan A24]

Did ya'll try "password"? That may be the common key!

 

[darkriku2000]

right password is the perfect string of 2 character combinations ranging from 00 to ff, it's all so obvious now

 

[Spartan A24]

right password is the perfect string of 2 character combinations ranging from 00 to ff, it's all so obvious now

Thats what I figured. That's why they call me teh l33t h4ck3r!!

 

[joshany12]

you do realise what that youtube guy did dont you.... he pressed the power button mid game to go back to the menu. thats why he doesnt show you the whole dsi and why, when nothing is copied to the ds game, it still goes back.

 

[SifJar]

you do realise what that youtube guy did dont you.... he pressed the power button mid game to go back to the menu. thats why he doesnt show you the whole dsi and why, when nothing is copied to the ds game, it still goes back.

i think we established that was fake. he even said so himself IN THE VIDEO.