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DS #2673: Dragon Quest IV (USA)
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SargeSmash said:
You might know of this already, but you can copy your flash card save to the retail card using:
http://www.monroeworld.com/myfaq/index.php...&artlang=en
I've only used it to go from retail to flash but I believe it goes the other way too. (you need wifi to use it)
I wasn't aware that one could go the other way. Haven't tried it, though. I was going to use eepinator, but I haven't used that, either. Appreciate the link.
And I hadn't heard of eepinator, after a quick search the general opinion seems to be that it suits your needs better. Good to know.
Anyway, a guide by sturmen includes how to restore the save with Rudolph's tool, I realise my first link didn't:
http://www.gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=94197
Anyway, a guide by sturmen includes how to restore the save with Rudolph's tool, I realise my first link didn't:
http://www.gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=94197
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That sucks that's in there. SE learned to not put it in the beginning of the game where everybody would talk about the issue, like the "thanks for playing" screen. Now it's going to take forever to get this fixed, because most people won't even make it that far in the game.three14 said:
SargeSmash said:
Statements like "You can only save at a church in town" and "No options to increase text speed" aren't opinions at all. They are simply false statements. There is a world of difference. An opinion is valid in a discussion, but an outright LIE isn't.
cupajoe38 said:That sucks that's in there. SE learned to not put it in the beginning of the game where everybody would talk about the issue, like the "thanks for playing" screen. Now it's going to take forever to get this fixed, because most people won't even make it that far in the game.three14 said:
Yea. it sucks bad. I am praying that someone can prove me wrong on this one. I put nearly a week into the EUR release only to discover this bullshit. Maybe an AR code will fix it? Who knows.
have been playing the Europe release and this game is an absolute treat for JRPG fans. I prefer this game over chrono trigger and Final Fantasy IV actually. Hopefully I won't run into any anti piracy issues on my ds xtreme. If so, I will just buy the game, I probably will anyways. (Dragon Quest VIII was one of the very few games I paid money for on my ps2)
Also note that, at least in the Japanese version, you can manually control all of your party members in chatper 5, unlike the NES version. That makes battles much easier and reduces the amount of level grinding required as you don't have to rely on the crappy AI anymore. Hopefully manual control in chapter 5 wasn't removed from the US/EU versions.
If any differences come up between Eur and US version, please post immediately!
(oh, and DQ IV is a classic. Not a single person mentioned the chapter system that dives into each characters brief history before bringing them to the Chosen One. Way ahead of its time for the NES)
Playing the Eur, and I haven't got to Zenithia yet. Hopefully there's a hole in the clouds. I'm usin' a CycloDS. (BTW Torneko or whoever makes a killing at the monster battles at the Casino with save states! All the battles are predetermined!)
Good Stuff!
(oh, and DQ IV is a classic. Not a single person mentioned the chapter system that dives into each characters brief history before bringing them to the Chosen One. Way ahead of its time for the NES)
Playing the Eur, and I haven't got to Zenithia yet. Hopefully there's a hole in the clouds. I'm usin' a CycloDS. (BTW Torneko or whoever makes a killing at the monster battles at the Casino with save states! All the battles are predetermined!)
Good Stuff!
zepline said:
You can still manually control all party members in your line-up (except for special characters) in Chapter 5 so don't worry. Basically, press Y, then go to Misc > Tactics and set them to "Follow Orders".
anyone know if party talk is still gone from the (U) version? I know it was remove from the (E) version and that it was present in the (J) version of the game
why the DQ hate argh....
first if there's no DQ there wont be console rpgs as we know it.
in CT the 2 of the 3 person responsible for DQ were pirated by Square and added to its team Trigger to make that great RPG you experienced from it. Look at Cross it didnt even get 1/3 of its Trigger greatness even with its great graphics at that time.
dont get me wrong but in JPN DQ 1 and DQ 2 came out before FF1 now dont go comparing DQ1 from FF1 since they probably pirated DQ2 rpg ideas for FF.
even its DQ3 job system have you compared the of FFII(J) and FFIII(J) that system was pirated too.
in DQIV it is the first or probably the only game where you dont get to see or play the main hero at the beginning of the game until you first seen all your party members(this was change in DQIVDS with prol.)
FF made its breakthrough in IV thru ATB and onwards but still in my eyes they are a mere copycat who tries to makes new changes and adds eyecandy CGIs so that it will sell better.
FFV and FFVI now if only DQ V and DQVI came out in SNES era we will see how it fares from those 2.
Chrono Trigger still the best RPG of its era why? its because the combined elements from DQ and FF are in there (its a combination of ideas from DQ and FF) even its character designs were made by Toriyama.
so now before go hating DQ think about it. If it werent for that game we wont be having console RPGs.
first if there's no DQ there wont be console rpgs as we know it.
in CT the 2 of the 3 person responsible for DQ were pirated by Square and added to its team Trigger to make that great RPG you experienced from it. Look at Cross it didnt even get 1/3 of its Trigger greatness even with its great graphics at that time.
dont get me wrong but in JPN DQ 1 and DQ 2 came out before FF1 now dont go comparing DQ1 from FF1 since they probably pirated DQ2 rpg ideas for FF.
even its DQ3 job system have you compared the of FFII(J) and FFIII(J) that system was pirated too.
in DQIV it is the first or probably the only game where you dont get to see or play the main hero at the beginning of the game until you first seen all your party members(this was change in DQIVDS with prol.)
FF made its breakthrough in IV thru ATB and onwards but still in my eyes they are a mere copycat who tries to makes new changes and adds eyecandy CGIs so that it will sell better.
FFV and FFVI now if only DQ V and DQVI came out in SNES era we will see how it fares from those 2.
Chrono Trigger still the best RPG of its era why? its because the combined elements from DQ and FF are in there (its a combination of ideas from DQ and FF) even its character designs were made by Toriyama.
so now before go hating DQ think about it. If it werent for that game we wont be having console RPGs.
Mmm DQ, Dairy Queen.
Back on topic, I'll try it out but I think I'd rather play the other recently released DQ. It has a different vibe around it, probably because of the different look.
Back on topic, I'll try it out but I think I'd rather play the other recently released DQ. It has a different vibe around it, probably because of the different look.
War Destroyer said:
I assume that the save state (rts) files are not compatible between the EU and US versions, right?
As for differences, they both trim to 107,252kb so I doubt there are very many, though I wouldn't trust using an EU save state on the US version.
Yeah, I have. The question is, have _you_ played the game? Because you seem fond of running your mouth prior to checking your facts.Supert5 said:
Otherwise you would know that:
1) the speed setting affects _battle_ message scroll rates, not dialog.
2) the quick save is just that: a quick save which then forces you to power off the DS. This is not even close to the same thing as a revised saving system where you could save in the overworld, or anything short of having to return to a town in order to do it
3) So what's your point? It's still the same antiquated inventory system where items are non stackable and a leaf somehow takes up as much space as a suit of armor
4) What does total play time have to do with anything I previously said?
Just thought I'd mention that eepinator worked great for putting my savegame from the European version on the American cart. Just need to convert the save file from 512K to 64K (RAW format).
As for the inventory system, it's still better than it was. If anyone remembers at all, there was no bag in the original. Now you can effectively carry anything you want, rather than throwing it into storage. Not only that, but you have more slots in each characters inventory as well (I believe it's 12 now, it used to be only 8).
It's also not like the dialog scrolls by slowly. There are other games that have this problem, like Suikoden, where you have a text speed adjustment but even the fastest speed is too slow, and quickly advancing text with the X button could accidentally have you make a dialogue choice you didn't want to make.
As far as saving is concerned, I am reminded of the last area of Final Fantasy 3, which requires you to invest upwards of two hours without ANY save points, including not having one before the final boss, which fully has the ability to kick your butt if you haven't leveled up.
Again, small flaws like this are not even close to a dealbreaker for me. It's a great old-school RPG, in my book.
As for the inventory system, it's still better than it was. If anyone remembers at all, there was no bag in the original. Now you can effectively carry anything you want, rather than throwing it into storage. Not only that, but you have more slots in each characters inventory as well (I believe it's 12 now, it used to be only 8).
It's also not like the dialog scrolls by slowly. There are other games that have this problem, like Suikoden, where you have a text speed adjustment but even the fastest speed is too slow, and quickly advancing text with the X button could accidentally have you make a dialogue choice you didn't want to make.
As far as saving is concerned, I am reminded of the last area of Final Fantasy 3, which requires you to invest upwards of two hours without ANY save points, including not having one before the final boss, which fully has the ability to kick your butt if you haven't leveled up.
Again, small flaws like this are not even close to a dealbreaker for me. It's a great old-school RPG, in my book.
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