DO NOT SIMPLY COPY AN ENTIRE ARTICLE

Discussion in 'User Submitted News' started by mthrnite, May 9, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
May 9, 2012
  1. mthrnite
    OP

    Former Staff mthrnite So it goes.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    4,523
    Location:
    th' south
    Country:
    United States
    Please summarize in your own words, the essence of the news you are reporting. Please read the stickies in this forum for a guide. Simply copying the entire source article verbatim is lazy, and tantamount to plagiarism.

    [​IMG] Proper USN Template
    [​IMG] Discussion on Plagiarism

    Thank you Urza for bringing this to my attention.
     


  2. Quietlyawesome94

    Member Quietlyawesome94 GBAtemp Maniac

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,146
    Location:
    The Internet
    Country:
    United States
    I myself have been guilty of this a few times. I'll make sure I don't do it again.
     
    5 people like this.
  3. TehSkull

    Member TehSkull Living the life

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2009
    Messages:
    2,700
    Location:
    Louisiana
    Country:
    United States
    One does not simply copy-paste into Mordor.
     
  4. Foxi4

    Reporter Foxi4 On the hunt...

    pip
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2009
    Messages:
    22,705
    Location:
    Gaming Grotto
    Country:
    Poland
    Agreed. If I ever want to read an article as it is with no summary at all, I can just click the "Source" button and read it on the Source site.

    Excerpts are good. Complete copy-pasta is not.
     
  5. prowler

    Member prowler Sony

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2009
    Messages:
    9,473
    Location:
    Ragol
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    before the end of september there will be 10 stickys in the usn
     
    3 people like this.
  6. mthrnite
    OP

    Former Staff mthrnite So it goes.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    4,523
    Location:
    th' south
    Country:
    United States
    Sure it's redundant, but then again, it's redundant!
     
    3 people like this.
  7. Rydian

    Member Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010
    Messages:
    27,883
    Location:
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    Country:
    United States
    Can we get the template sticky fixed up too? With the P code fixed (it's using the old codes), and with the template modified to have the download icon/link as well?
     
  8. mthrnite
    OP

    Former Staff mthrnite So it goes.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    4,523
    Location:
    th' south
    Country:
    United States
    Yes we can.
     
    3 people like this.
  9. Zerosuit connor

    Member Zerosuit connor Baby I'm Back ♥

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Messages:
    1,847
    Location:
    Eorzea
    Country:
    Australia
    I love the word Verbatim
     
  10. Heran Bago

    Member Heran Bago Where do puyo come from?

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2005
    Messages:
    2,846
    Location:
    Foggy California
    Country:
    United States
    Are we allowed to both summarize and quote the article? I ask because I usually don't care what the user has to say and if they don't quote the article I'll just click/read the soure instead.
     
    1 person likes this.
  11. mthrnite
    OP

    Former Staff mthrnite So it goes.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    4,523
    Location:
    th' south
    Country:
    United States
    Absolutely. The problem we're having is that people are quoting the entire article. I think perhaps submitters want to get it up first and thus take no time at all in presentation. In deciding what to prune when faced with duplicate news submissions, I will look for best over first.


    Good to see you btw. :gba:
     
  12. KingVamp

    Member KingVamp Great... AETHER!

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2009
    Messages:
    9,588
    Country:
    United States
    1) I feel sourcing the article is what keep you from Plagiarism.
    2) Do mean do a page copy or a small section when you say didn't copy the entire article?
    3) Summarizing in your own words, could lead to people spinning the news to their bias
    and not give you the whole information.

    Not saying take the lazy and quick route such as making a title and then fixing up the post properly later,but just to keep from messing up the reported
    news.

    Kinda sleepy, so if that doesn't make sense then... :unsure:
     
  13. Rydian

    Member Rydian Resident Furvert™

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010
    Messages:
    27,883
    Location:
    Cave Entrance, Watching Cyan Write Letters
    Country:
    United States
    There's times when you do need to quote a while paragraph (for example to show specific wording), the main issue is when people copy-paste a 5-paragraph article and nothing else makes it into the post.
     
    1 person likes this.
  14. RupeeClock

    Member RupeeClock Colors 3D Snivy!

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    6,307
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    If I ever post a news article, I don't paste the ENTIRE article, I take the most relevant section of it and trim the fat, make sure it is quoted, and then provide a source to the full article with my own editorial at the bottom of the post.

    But I don't do it all that often either. Part of the problem with asking people to write their own USN articles is that they're going to mis-word things, or lack any proper writing skills to convey the significance of something.

    It is NOT plagiarism if you site your source and quote properly. Of course it isn't to Harvard APA Standards but whatever.
     
    1 person likes this.
  15. mthrnite
    OP

    Former Staff mthrnite So it goes.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    4,523
    Location:
    th' south
    Country:
    United States
    Thank you [m]Densetsu[/m] for adding the relevant links to the initial post :wub:

    @[member='RupeeClock'], the way you describe how you do it sounds good to me.

    My issue was merely in the wholesale copy/pasting of the complete source article.
    Plagiarism is a very "hot" word, and I'm not inclined to use it, or define it to everyone's satisfaction. Common sense will absolutely do in this case, and I appreciate everyone's effort who actually does make an effort. We're not not looking for perfection, and even in the extreme cases of the articles that were no more than a copy of the original, we appreciate the gathering of the news, just not it's presentation.

    We're not setting a very high bar, but we are setting a bar.

    To everyone who submits news, thank you for being an asset to our site.
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. RupeeClock

    Member RupeeClock Colors 3D Snivy!

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    6,307
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Of course, news posts should be made to some sort of standard that is actually useful to the reader.
    Allow them to follow up where the article came from, read the full story, actually understand what the hell is going on.

    Copy-pasting the entire article makes you look like a spam-bot with sites that do that just for page-hits.
     
  17. MEGAMANTROTSKY

    Member MEGAMANTROTSKY GBAtemp Fan

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    Messages:
    464
    Country:
    United States
    OP, thank you for the useful guide. Perhaps this too should be stickied...?
     
  18. gloweyjoey

    Member gloweyjoey who??

    Joined:
    May 7, 2010
    Messages:
    842
    Country:
    United States
    I just generally followed the template sticky, which said copy the article into a paragraph tag and then put your source and then whatever you input is was to go under that.

    Looking at it now, its been changed.
     
  19. Gahars

    Member Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,254
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Country:
    United States
    I try to follow the guidelines with all the posts I make. If I'm actually disobeying one of the rules or anything, please feel free to let me know.
     
  20. Another World

    Former Staff Another World Emulate the Planet!

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    10,476
    Location:
    From Where???
    Country:
    Colombia
    if anyone has questions about how to post, how to write up the article, bbcode, etc, don't hesitate to ask us. its why we are here!

    guess you didn't look for a long time. i made changes and added the "no quote policy" on 1/7/2011.

    -another world
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page