Dislike button

[Jiehfeng]

That's a pretty silly reason to want a dislike button.

And silliness is the key to making people immune to offense. I'm not here to argue for my reasons and whether my reasons are silly, because I completely agree, it's a silly reason, and a silly reason I believe will fulfill my wants. I don't care so much about it anyway, just sharing what I think. I gave a silly reason, and that makes me a silly person, and I agree, so no need to quote and call me silly.

BUT I'M ON ENGERT'S SIDE! THIS IS SPARTAH!!!!

 

[zoogie]

I think a healthy compromise is in order to correct some of the bad blood in this thread.

My proposal: an "Acknowledgement" button. It's neither gushy, buttkissy, or spammy like a "Like" and it's not vindictive, trolly, or passive-aggressive like a "Dislike". It's the perfect compromise that is guaranteed to leave everybody blissfully unemotional.

 

[Jiehfeng]

I think a healthy compromise is in order to correct some of the bad blood in this thread.

My proposal: an "Acknowledgement" button. It's neither gushy, buttkissy, or spammy like a "Like" and it's not vindictive, trolly, or passive-aggressive like a "Dislike". It's the perfect compromise that is guaranteed to leave everybody blissfully unemotional.

This guy knows what's up.

 

[Cyan]

the like button stops people going "+1 i agree" and posts like that.

The like button is originally intended to make helpful posts stand out from the rest.
Giving noobs a better view of who's more reputable/what posts contain useful information.

I also think we don't really need it, but with facebook trend, people want to "like" everything and tell they agree with anyone.
We started to have "+1" and "+1111111111" posts everywhere.
since we added the like button option, these posts are now history.

The like button/count could have been used to show how reputable and knowledgeable someone is, but people tend to like idiocy more than interesting information.
We can't base a reputation system on something like that.

I usually use it as a "thank you" or a "good to see it worked".
For example someone ask for help, I provide a guide, and the user reply that everything worked as intended. I don't always need to reply to a "thank you it worked", but I like to show that user that I read his thank message.
edit: An example just came 2 seconds ago.

Maybe a "thank you" button would be better than a "like" button for a reputation/knowledge count, but users will unfortunately still abuse it.

Edit : maybe another idea to rate the knowledge and usefulness of a user on the forum:
instead of liking posts, we could anonymously rate (pos/neut/neg) a user himself. only one note could be given per user.
but again, troll users will like other troll users, and that's not representative to the knowledge. it would allow bashing and negatively bullying a user for no reason.
but maybe with enough vote, the balance would be right.
but a system where we can set negative instead of positive note is always a bad system.

edit2:
another proposition :
rating user with multiple subject, instead of just "like/dislike/neutral". something like :
character : Fun [ • • ◘ • • ] Serious
participation : user [ • • • • ◘ ] helper
hacking : Newbie [ • • • • ◘ ] Techie
etc. (developer, or section specific 3DS hacking, WiiU hacking, anything else)

this way it's not "bad user" but "normal user who post more in eof" or "developer helping others" etc.
a single vote shouldn't display "100%", at least few votes would be needed before displaying the level publicly to prevent trolls and dup accounts to self-vote.

 

[Jiehfeng]

I also think we don't really need it, but with facebook trend, people want to "like" everything and tell they agree with anyone.
We started to have "+1" and "+1111111111" posts everywhere.
since we added the like button option, these posts are now history.

The like button/count could have been used to show how reputable and knowledgeable someone is, but people tend to like idiocy more than interesting information.
We can't base a reputation system on something like that.

I usually use it as a "thank you" or a "good to see it worked".
For example someone ask for help, I provide a guide, and the user reply that everything worked as intended. I don't always need to reply to a "thank you it worked", but I like to show that user that I read his thank message.


Maybe a "thank you" button would be better than a "like" button for a reputation/knowledge count, but users will unfortunately still abuse it.

Then mate, I propose to change the word like to thanks. That might reduce the like whores a tad bit down. It's more professional and professional posts of projects can be thanked upon using the like button which is renamed as thanks. So out of the like whores, at least a few would feel eerie to say thanks, cause that's not what they want to express. And then if the like whores break out and keep posting bullshit, ban them. Isn't that a bit genius?

 

[zoogie]

On second thought, a "Notice" button might be more appealing than an Acknowledgement.
It has a classy Japanese feel and is sure to impress our many legions of weaboos.

"Senpai noticed my post today! Squee!!"

 

[dimmidice]

Or we can just keep the like button and people who have an issue with it could get over it.

 

[Jiehfeng]

On second thought, a "Notice" button might be more appealing than an Acknowledgement.
It has a classy Japanese feel and is sure to impress our many legions of weaboos.

"Senpai noticed my post today! Squee!!"

Yes! The japanese are very calm people. I have heard they're not allowed to complement employees, and still they're calm people. So a Notice thing from the japanese can also work.

Or we can just keep the like button and people who have an issue with it could get over it.

Here's someone who hates change.

 

[dimmidice]

Yes! The japanese are very calm people. I have heard they're not allowed to complement employees, and still they're calm people. So a Notice thing from the japanese can also work.



Here's someone who hates change.

Nah, i just hate changes for the sake of change. Whatever the button is called, it's the same button. it's just semantics tbh. It won't change how the button is used at all.

 

[Jiehfeng]

Nah, i just hate changes for the sake of change. Whatever the button is called, it's the same button. it's just semantics tbh. It won't change how the button is used at all.

Now I wish I had a idiot button...
See, it's so obvious how even a name change would work. Are you saying humans are robots without emotion? When someone see's a button, and it says destruction on it, will he click it? Well if he knew what it did, he would still click it, but there's still a bit of hesitation. That hesitation building up will make him not click it eventually.

But if the button said beauty, he would click it, he liked beauty. SO OBVIOUSLY EVEN A NAME CHANGE HAS A CHANGE OF HOW A BUTTON IS USED. A person who hasn't even been to forums will see a button named something, and that first impression will give him a new purpose which also is change.

 

[LittleFlame]

Why not just keep the site as is and deal with people like OP first ;O;

 

[dimmidice]

Now I wish I had a idiot button...
See, it's so obvious how even a name change would work. Are you saying humans are robots without emotion? When someone see's a button, and it says destruction on it, will he click it? Well if he knew what it did, he would still click it, but there's still a bit of hesitation. That hesitation building up will make him not click it eventually.

But if the button said beauty, he would click it, he liked beauty. SO OBVIOUSLY EVEN A NAME CHANGE HAS A CHANGE OF HOW A BUTTON IS USED. A person who hasn't even been to forums will see a button named something, and that first impression will give him a new purpose which also is change.

If we rename the like button to "Zoogle" or "Thanks" tomorrow people are still going to use it just like they will the like button. Because the button will still function exactly the same way. The name doesn't matter. People here don't use the like button purely as "like". it's like Cyan said. It's also a "Thanks" button, it's also a "I've seen you!" button. it's also a "This guy's right button". it's also a "I agree" button.

 

[LittleFlame]

there's only been one instance i know of the like button being abused and that was margen but we have enough trolls on the site already if we give them more ammo like a dislike button the site'd become a shitstorm

 

[Jiehfeng]

If we rename the like button to "Zoogle" or "Destroy" tomorrow people are still going to use it just like they will the like button. Because the button will still function exactly the same way. The name doesn't matter. People here don't use the like button purely as "like". it's like Cyan said. It's also a "Thanks" button, it's also a "I've seen you!" button. it's also a "This guy's right button". it's also a "I agree" button.

You don't get the point lol... I'm wasting my time here.
But just a hint, Cyan did not say exactly that, he said this: "Maybe a "thank you" button would be better than a "like" button for a reputation/knowledge count". Goodbye thread.

 

[dimmidice]

You don't get the point lol... I'm wasting my time here.
But just a hint, Cyan did not say exactly that, he said this: "Maybe a "thank you" button would be better than a "like" button for a reputation/knowledge count". Goodbye thread.

That's partly what he said. You're ignoring the rest of what he said because it doesn't fit your narrative :/

 

[DinohScene]

I also think we don't really need it, but with facebook trend, people want to "like" everything and tell they agree with anyone.
We started to have "+1" and "+1111111111" posts everywhere.
since we added the like button option, these posts are now history.

The like button/count could have been used to show how reputable and knowledgeable someone is, but people tend to like idiocy more than interesting information.
We can't base a reputation system on something like that.

I usually use it as a "thank you" or a "good to see it worked".
For example someone ask for help, I provide a guide, and the user reply that everything worked as intended. I don't always need to reply to a "thank you it worked", but I like to show that user that I read his thank message.
edit: An example just came 2 seconds ago.

Maybe a "thank you" button would be better than a "like" button for a reputation/knowledge count, but users will unfortunately still abuse it.

Edit : maybe another idea to rate the knowledge and usefulness of a user on the forum:
instead of liking posts, we could anonymously rate (pos/neut/neg) a user himself. only one note could be given per user.
but again, troll users will like other troll users, and that's not representative to the knowledge. it would allow bashing and negatively bullying a user for no reason.
but maybe with enough vote, the balance would be right.
but a system where we can set negative instead of positive note is always a bad system.

I think that the staff should assign something to users who are knowledgeable by their discretion.
That way, users/noobs will likely follow their words first instead of listening to the trolls who immediately hammer on doing a particular thing (A9LH crusade of margen)

Anything that can be done by the normal member userbase will be abused.
Doesn't matter if a user gives everyone a quid for a good rating, there's always atleast one troll that will ruin it.

 

[Engert]

The reason no one gets your point jiefeng is because you're throwing to much LOGIC into this conversation.
Bring it down a notch.
The millennial generation cannot comprehend a world without the like button (which doesn't mean a god damn thing) and they're horrified by the dislike button which is evil.
This prepares them for the real world and it totally aligns their perceptions on how the real world works.

Costello I don't know if you're joking there in your post but if you're not, u might want to start Taking some anti-like medication.

 

[FAST6191]

Please. If you think most of the staff here don't enjoy winding up and laughing at the oversensitives then you have clearly not being paying attention.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

The "Like" button is far more versatile than an "I agree" or "Thank you" as it covers both grounds. As for the disagree button, no. This isn't YouTube or PS3Hax.

 

[dimmidice]

Yeah, using less logic is definitely a great idea. /s