Hacking Curiosity Regarding DS-Xtreme and Pokemon Diamond

[D3R3LIC7]

How does Pokemon Diamond save on the DS-X? I'm so puzzled.

I save in game, and of course I restart the NDS so the EEPROM stuff can be saved. However, even if I delete the .sav file (deleting manually by connecting DS-X to comp and deleting), I can still continue when I restart the game...? Can somebody explain.

I've also been trying to use modified save files, but I have failed at every attempt

lol.

Anybody care to explain or discuss?

 

[Regiiko]

Are hidden files viewable? o.o

iono, maybe pokemon hacks and saves to its own rom or something (not possible, i think)

 

[OSW]

Maybe you're imagining things?

 

[D3R3LIC7]

No I'm not.

 

[HBK]

How does Pokemon Diamond save on the DS-X? I'm so puzzled.

I save in game, and of course I restart the NDS so the EEPROM stuff can be saved. However, even if I delete the .sav file (deleting manually by connecting DS-X to comp and deleting), I can still continue when I restart the game...? Can somebody explain.

I've also been trying to use modified save files, but I have failed at every attemptÂ

lol.

Anybody care to explain or discuss?

Pokemon is exclusive, at least for the DS-X. Why? Because it saves internally. What this means is, it acts as if it were in an actual legit retail cart (and you if extracted the .sav file from that cart, the game progress would still be there!). This is exactly what the DS-X does.

Now, you failed at every attempt to use the modified save files because you didn't rename the .sav and .nds file! For example, if you have a lgc-pkmd.nds file, you can't use a modified lgc-pkmd.sav because it will still recognize the old save. You have to rename the .nds to something like Pokemon Diamond (U).nds and the save file to the same name as the .nds!

So both will go like this

Pokemon Diamond (U).nds
Pokemon Diamond (U).sav

Only then it will work. I've tested this.

 

[D3R3LIC7]

So are you saying that when I add in a new save, I should make a new name for that file as well as the ROM itself?

Do I just rename the ROM or do I have to actually replace it with another copy?

Oh and do you know how I can convert R4 saves to DS-Xtreme saves?
The converter at LINK does not create a compatible save file for me (a 256KB instead of a much smaller size such as 2-50KB).

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Update:

Currently I am saved in a Pokemon Center. I went onto my computer and replaced the .sav with a save file of me when I was outside, and I made sure that the .nds and .sav files were the same. When I loaded the ROM, I still continued the game from when I was in the Pokemon Center rather than outside... I am so confused. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I even renamed the files. The ROM and .sav of when I was inside the Pokemon Center were named Pokemon Diamond.nds and Pokemon Diamond .sav. When I replaced the save file with a save file of me outside, I renamed the ROM and the .sav file to Pokemon Diamonda.nds and Pokemon Diamonda.sav. Still I cannot change the save...

 

[Shuny]

Have you tried to empty your recycle bin ?

(I don't know why I say this

)

 

[Gr4v3]

what I think what happens. You save your pokemon game. Then you shut off the ds. Plug the ds-xtreme in the computer and delete the save.
Next time you boot the ds-xtreme it saves the eeprom (wich is the pokemon save)
Now when you load pokemon it just starts where you saved last.

To prevent this you need to boot up the ds-xtreme and let it save the eeprom. Then without loading pokemon shut off the ds and plug the ds-xtreme in the computer. Then delete your save file. When you next time load pokemon you start with a clean game.


edit: hmm. after rereading the first post it seems he allready tried this...

 

[fli_guy84]

Try running other roms and run the Pokemon again.

Again, the DS-X accepts 256KB RAW saves and then automatically compress the save files.

 

[Shuny]

I had the same problem and I just fixed the fuck !

Copy your original savegame somewhere in your harddrive
Enter pokemon with any save (doesn't matter)
At the title screen, press UP + SELECT + B
Reply yes. Your data will be deleted (+- 2mins !)
Turn off your DS, turn it on, go to DSX app menu and turn the DS off.
Delete the Pokemon savegame in Windows
Put your savegame with the same name as rom in the DS-X

And that's ok ! I'm so happy !

 

[hortondummy]

Shuny, you're my freakin' hero! Thank you for this and your wonderful savegames converter!

 

[D3R3LIC7]

I had the same problem and I just fixed the fuck !

Copy your original savegame somewhere in your harddrive
Enter pokemon with any save (doesn't matter)
At the title screen, press UP + SELECT + B
Reply yes. Your data will be deleted (+- 2mins !)
Turn off your DS, turn it on, go to DSX app menu and turn the DS off.
Delete the Pokemon savegame in Windows
Put your savegame with the same name as rom in the DS-X

And that's ok ! I'm so happy !

AMAZING... Thank you so much

 

[Shuny]

Shuny, you're my freakin' hero! Thank you for this and your wonderful savegames converter!

I had the same problem and I just fixed the fuck !

Copy your original savegame somewhere in your harddrive
Enter pokemon with any save (doesn't matter)
At the title screen, press UP + SELECT + B
Reply yes. Your data will be deleted (+- 2mins !)
Turn off your DS, turn it on, go to DSX app menu and turn the DS off.
Delete the Pokemon savegame in Windows
Put your savegame with the same name as rom in the DS-X

And that's ok ! I'm so happy !

AMAZING... Thank you so much

No problem

Glad to see it worked

 

[OSW]

heh, random!

So are you saying that when I add in a new save, I should make a new name for that file as well as the ROM itself?

Do I just rename the ROM or do I have to actually replace it with another copy?

Oh and do you know how I can convert R4 saves to DS-Xtreme saves?
The converter at LINK does not create a compatible save file for me (a 256KB instead of a much smaller size such as 2-50KB).

=============
Update:

Currently I am saved in a Pokemon Center. I went onto my computer and replaced the .sav with a save file of me when I was outside, and I made sure that the .nds and .sav files were the same. When I loaded the ROM, I still continued the game from when I was in the Pokemon Center rather than outside... I am so confused. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I even renamed the files. The ROM and .sav of when I was inside the Pokemon Center were named Pokemon Diamond.nds and Pokemon Diamond .sav. When I replaced the save file with a save file of me outside, I renamed the ROM and the .sav file to Pokemon Diamonda.nds and Pokemon Diamonda.sav. Still I cannot change the save...Â

sorry i just thought it was funny that you left a space before the .sav, because that would mess up the save. but i'm sure you just made a typing error in that post.


anyways glad to hear its wokring fine.

 

[ziot]

I recently bought a ds-x and i've been trying to find out how to import / export the .sav files from the legit cartridges. There are a couple homebrew apps like Eepinator and Rein which can export the roms to gba sdram (slot 2) but I don't have this. There are also problems with the ds-x and eepinator when you want to extract the save game to the flash cart (ds-x will freeze when you try to put the ds-x back in).

Anyone have any insight on if it is possible to do this without a slot 2 for the ds-x?

Sorry if this has been answered a million times, I honestly have searched and looked around and I have yet to find a working method.

:\/

 

[ziot]

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