ROM Hack Cross Treasures Open Translation

[ferofax]

@valiarchon: yeah, i recently noticed that some of the descriptions in english actually fits the boxes quite nicely, so it's good that i didn't edit it i guess. too bad though that the translation is pretty much on hold i guess. that kinda took the steam out of me, but i'll still check in to see if the owner starts updating the wiki. i'm currently enjoying the game, and still taking notes, but i'd like to see the wiki get updated first before i go back to cleaning up typos and stuff.

 

[Zarcon]

I'm playing the game with my sister in my free time and my biggest complaint was figuring out where the items I needed dropped.
So...I decided to translate them to the best of my abilities.
Then I translated a few other things.
Not sure if I should post it though since they don't want machine translations. Though I use several sources, a Japanese=>English dictionary, and my own limited knowledge of the language to help.

...just noticed I spelled it "Desert" instead of "Dessert"...whoops.

This is basically all I need to play the game comfortably. I'd translate more menu stuff (Such as equipment bonus and achievement medals) but a lot of it is in .dat files and hex editing everything is such a chore. If there's a tool to help I'd love to get my hands on it.
Heck, 4 of the location names "Any World, Secret Word, Co-op Quest Reward, and Tika's Shop) were in the Arm9 file which was...kind of random.

I'd also be willing to do more image translations if I knew how to extract and insert the images...

 

[Maplemage]

8-bit world? I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS ONE! I quit playing cross treasures at 30F

 

[Zarcon]

8-bit world? I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS ONE! I quit playing cross treasures at 30F

There's two of them actually. Pixel World and Night World (I chose to name Night World 8-bit World to fit the theme)
One is during the day and one during the night.
The stage has 8-bit style textures and the music is bleeps and bloops of a similar nature.
Monsters are still 3D though.
Each dungeon section has 2~4 variations that you can change by talking to Yousei so you missed Pixel World in all likelihood.

 

[ferofax]

I'm playing the game with my sister in my free time and my biggest complaint was figuring out where the items I needed dropped.
So...I decided to translate them to the best of my abilities.
Then I translated a few other things.
Not sure if I should post it though since they don't want machine translations. Though I use several sources, a Japanese=>English dictionary, and my own limited knowledge of the language to help.

...just noticed I spelled it "Desert" instead of "Dessert"...whoops.

This is basically all I need to play the game comfortably. I'd translate more menu stuff (Such as equipment bonus and achievement medals) but a lot of it is in .dat files and hex editing everything is such a chore. If there's a tool to help I'd love to get my hands on it.
Heck, 4 of the location names "Any World, Secret Word, Co-op Quest Reward, and Tika's Shop) were in the Arm9 file which was...kind of random.

I'd also be willing to do more image translations if I knew how to extract and insert the images...

wow, that looks quite nice. I don't mind the menus (i can read them), but if you can translate some stuff and update it on the wiki, i'd gladly help clean up some stuff there too.

oh yeah, i dunno if you've fixed this, but Priest Suit is translated as Freeze Suit (which is weird, because the boots and cap are translated right). well, at least that's how it is in the version i'm using.

 

[Zarcon]

Most of the stuff I've edited are in random files and dats, not sure how to add new pages to the wiki.
I haven't touched the item names/descriptions because those are in a dat file and I don't have a proper tool to edit it. The other dats I've edited were fairly small so I just hex edited my translations in.
Wouldn't mind a second opinion on the world names though, some of them I just romanji'd because I had no idea what they were.

data/bg/BGList.csv
ほんまるじょう => Honmaru Castle
かねまるじょう => Kanemaru Castle
わくわくこうざん => Excite Mountain (Waku Waku Kouzan. Waku Waku is onomatopoeia for excitement I believe? I originally did Excitement Mountain but it gets cut off as Excitement Mount)
デビルケイブ => Devil Cave
もりのいせき => Forest Ruins
てんくうのいせき => Sky Ruins
コスモワールド => Cosmo World (Kosumo Warudo. I feel like making this Cosmic World since it feels better?)
ブラックホール => Black Hole
もえもえかざん => Moe Moe Volcano (...yea, I have no idea how to translate Moe Moe...)
もうどくのぬま => Moudoku Swamp
ナイトキャッスル => Knight Castle
まおうのしろ => Devil Castle
ひみつとしょかん => Secret Library
まほうとしょかん => Magic Library
おかしのいえ => Candy House
こんがりハウス => Kongari House (This is a reskin of Candy house so I'm sure the name is similarly themed...I'm just not sure what Kongari is.)
ヘンテコくうかん => Weird Zone
アベコベくうかん => Inverse Zone
ロボファクトリー => Robot Factory
ネットフィールド => Net Field
ダークネスト => Dark Nest
しにがみのいえ => House of Death
おうけのはかば => Royal Graveyard
さびたろうごく => Sabitarougoku (No idea what this is)
アイスワールド => Ice World
しょうにゅうどう => Shoun Yuudou (No idea)
ドットフィールド => Pixel Field (Dotto Furirudo. It's 8-bit themed so I called it Pixel Field.)
ヨルノセカイ => Night World (Yoru no Sekai. It's Pixel Field at night basically. I'm almost positive I'm translating Yoru wrong. Considering naming this 8-Bit World to match the theme.)
おおきなねっこ => Big Nanekko (Ooki Nanekko? Ooki Na Nekko? Not sure.)
しんぴのたき => Mystery Waterfall (Originally Mysterious Waterfall...gets cut off though.)
ぐつぐつマグマ => Sizzling Magma (Gutsu Gutsu Maguma. Gutsu Gutsu is onomatopoeia for sizzling I believe?)
きょうさんのほり => Support Canal (Not entirely sure here)
すんだみずたまり => Sunda Mizu Tamari (Nooooooooooo idea.)
いのちのたいぼく => Life Tree
たそがれこおり => Twilight Ice
クリスタルランド => Crystal Land
まおうのへや => Devil Room
まおうのへや => Devil Room (Yea, there's two entries for this...no idea why.)

But yea, once again, if whoever's inserting the wiki translations has a handy tool for those dat files I'd love to get my hands on them.

[EDIT]

Oh right, one more.
おためしテスト => Test Trial (This is probably all kinds of wrong.)

 

[Shinintendo]

Seriously I hope you put all Zarcon translation in the next patch XD he did great work after all!

 

[ferofax]

Most of the stuff I've edited are in random files and dats, not sure how to add new pages to the wiki.
I haven't touched the item names/descriptions because those are in a dat file and I don't have a proper tool to edit it. The other dats I've edited were fairly small so I just hex edited my translations in.
Wouldn't mind a second opinion on the world names though, some of them I just romanji'd because I had no idea what they were.

data/bg/BGList.csv
??????? => Honmaru Castle
??????? => Kanemaru Castle
???????? => Excite Mountain (Waku Waku Kouzan. Waku Waku is onomatopoeia for excitement I believe? I originally did Excitement Mountain but it gets cut off as Excitement Mount)
?????? => Devil Cave
?????? => Forest Ruins
???????? => Sky Ruins
??????? => Cosmo World (Kosumo Warudo. I feel like making this Cosmic World since it feels better?)
??????? => Black Hole
??????? => Moe Moe Volcano (...yea, I have no idea how to translate Moe Moe...)
??????? => Moudoku Swamp
???????? => Knight Castle
?????? => Devil Castle
???????? => Secret Library
???????? => Magic Library
?????? => Candy House
??????? => Kongari House (This is a reskin of Candy house so I'm sure the name is similarly themed...I'm just not sure what Kongari is.)
???????? => Weird Zone
???????? => Inverse Zone
???????? => Robot Factory
???????? => Net Field
?????? => Dark Nest
??????? => House of Death
??????? => Royal Graveyard
??????? => Sabitarougoku (No idea what this is)
??????? => Ice World
???????? => Shoun Yuudou (No idea)
???????? => Pixel Field (Dotto Furirudo. It's 8-bit themed so I called it Pixel Field.)
?????? => Night World (Yoru no Sekai. It's Pixel Field at night basically. I'm almost positive I'm translating Yoru wrong. Considering naming this 8-Bit World to match the theme.)
??????? => Big Nanekko (Ooki Nanekko? Ooki Na Nekko? Not sure.)
?????? => Mystery Waterfall (Originally Mysterious Waterfall...gets cut off though.)
??????? => Sizzling Magma (Gutsu Gutsu Maguma. Gutsu Gutsu is onomatopoeia for sizzling I believe?)
???????? => Support Canal (Not entirely sure here)
???????? => Sunda Mizu Tamari (Nooooooooooo idea.)
???????? => Life Tree
??????? => Twilight Ice
???????? => Crystal Land
?????? => Devil Room
?????? => Devil Room (Yea, there's two entries for this...no idea why.)

But yea, once again, if whoever's inserting the wiki translations has a handy tool for those dat files I'd love to get my hands on them.

[EDIT]

Oh right, one more.
??????? => Test Trial (This is probably all kinds of wrong.)

yeah, it's too bad the wiki's pretty much abandoned for all intents and purposes, so i dunno how you'd go about doing this.

I actually have no issues with Romaji translations (although of course, people generally would have a hard time getting acquainted with gibberish-sounding names). If it fits the bill (and the screen), it's good enough for me, so there's no need to nitpick on stuff so much. I do have some comments, but your guess is probably much better than mine.

I think Honmaru and Kanemaru are nicknames of sorts? so it's pretty much OK to romanize this. Moe moe, lol

i think that works just as well. If they're applying it to a volcano, it's probably a literal pun that amounts to something like "hawt volcano" or something. again, your guess is better than mine. ??????? is Big Nekko (or big cat, i think, but that's neko, so...). ???? is pretty much the prefix version of ????. Mystery Waterfall can be shortened to Mystery Falls, but if it fits, it's fine.

anyways, if you've already applied most of these, do post it here. I'd love to get my grubby hands on those if you don't mind.

 

[Zarcon]

It's rough and dirty and there's still a few bits of common dialogue in Japanese.
I'll translate them first and then post a patch...is what I'd like to say, but I may end up putting it off since I don't need to understand those as much.

Just need to figure out how to make a patch out of this mess...

 

[ferofax]

It's rough and dirty and there's still a few bits of common dialogue in Japanese.
I'll translate them first and then post a patch...is what I'd like to say, but I may end up putting it off since I don't need to understand those as much.

Just need to figure out how to make a patch out of this mess...

well, i do hope you get around to putting something out. story scripts would probably just be icing on the cake, but i think for the most part, its the locations, item/equip names and skills that need translating, as items and equips are important to anyone who wants to make the most of this game's awesome forging/upgrading system.

oh yeah, sucks that when you change worlds, you throw out the previous layout of your current world even if you return to it. i'm currently stuck with a quest i got from Saffron that requires me to farm items from another world (the desert one, the one with that Drill Marine as boss) when i previously changed worlds, and i don't wanna lose Saffron's location on my current world (not sure if they get reshuffled or if they stay on the same floor; i think they get reshuffled though).

 

[Zarcon]

It's not in me to release things unless I'm happy with it so...I'm going to translate these random equipment bonuses first.
I'll post/edit here whenever I hit something I'm unsure of.

The first being...
????????#insnumber#??????
seichousokudo#insnumber#?appu??
Seichou Sokudo #? Up
I think this is would be...
+#% Experience Rate

Man, I'm awful at this.
??????#insnumber#????????
Dame-ji #insnumber#% hanekaesu??
Damage #% Hane Kaesu!
I think this is damage reflection?
Reflect #% Damage
Maybe?

A bit over halfway done now.
????????#insnumber#??????
idousupi?do?#insnumber#?appu??
Idou Speed # Up
Idou is moving or movement so maybe...
+# Movement Speed
...maybe?

Okay, finished translating everything other than those listed above...and this one last one.
#insnumber#??????????????
#insnumber#dame?jiotamanimukouka??
#insnumber# Damage Otamanimukouka??
...
No idea.

Huh, so it was my ring that was giving me poison and paralyze...

[EDIT]

Well, I'm trying to translate the achievements now since they provide stat/misc bonuses when you complete a line of them.
Just need to figure out how to hex edit in a line break since the text overflows otherwise...

[EDIT2]

Ah screw it, I'll just pad with spaces.
I think it uses 0A to line break, but if I pad with 00 before that point things break.
Padding with spaces seems to work, but I'm sure I'm making a hacker out there somewhere cry.

 

[ferofax]

It's not in me to release things unless I'm happy with it so...I'm going to translate these random equipment bonuses first.
I'll post/edit here whenever I hit something I'm unsure of.

The first being...
????????#insnumber#??????
seichousokudo#insnumber#?appu??
Seichou Sokudo #? Up
I think this is would be...
+#% Experience Rate

Man, I'm awful at this.
??????#insnumber#????????
Dame-ji #insnumber#% hanekaesu??
Damage #% Hane Kaesu!
I think this is damage reflection?
Reflect #% Damage
Maybe?

A bit over halfway done now.
????????#insnumber#??????
idousupi?do?#insnumber#?appu??
Idou Speed # Up
Idou is moving or movement so maybe...
+# Movement Speed
...maybe?

Okay, finished translating everything other than those listed above...and this one last one.
#insnumber#??????????????
#insnumber#dame?jiotamanimukouka??
#insnumber# Damage Otamanimukouka??
...
No idea.

Huh, so it was my ring that was giving me poison and paralyze...

[EDIT]

Well, I'm trying to translate the achievements now since they provide stat/misc bonuses when you complete a line of them.
Just need to figure out how to hex edit in a line break since the text overflows otherwise...

[EDIT2]

Ah screw it, I'll just pad with spaces.
I think it uses 0A to line break, but if I pad with 00 before that point things break.
Padding with spaces seems to work, but I'm sure I'm making a hacker out there somewhere cry.

again, a couple of comments.

???????????????
(n) growth promotant

closest thing i could find, so i think it's good enough.

???????????
(v5s) to reject; to bounce back

yep, it's damage reflection (think Thorns Aura, Diablo II). I think there's an eyewear with 40% of this? anyways, maybe you should do:
+#% Damage Reflect (keep the format)

??????? is Move Speed (i think). so yeah, that one should work.

CODE???????
(adj-na,n,adj-no) invalid; no effect; unavailable; illegal; (P)

this one i know from experience. any damage received that is less than the amount shown is sometimes ignored (sometimes because i'm not quite sure if it blocks EVERY damage type, or if it's chance-based, or if it maybe has a cooldown, which would explain why some damage go through even though it's within the blockable value). IIRC, sometimes i get hit and it comes up zero, which means it was less than what your equipment can block, but sometimes i see damage that's well within this value but somehow goes through. maybe +# Damage Block? i can't really call it immunity though, since i can't seem to make it work 100% of the time (maybe it is chance-based).

as for those technical aspects, if it works, it's fine.

just keep posting if you're unsure about stuff (or just want a second opinion).

 

[DarthNemesis]

I think it uses 0A to line break, but if I pad with 00 before that point things break.

Why would you need to pad before the line break? You can move the line break up, just pad with 00 after the entire block of text.

 

[Izual Urashima]

Amazing work thus far, guys.

I'm not able to help you at all on that, but you have my full support. Keep the good work !

 

[Zarcon]

-second opinion-Alrighty, I was leaning towards those translations, but with a second opinion I'll commit them.
My translation is kind of unofficial to the project anyway.
Think instead of Damage Block I'll do Damage Evade since it makes a bit more sense with the % chance and classes with no shield.
Plus I'm pretty sure the Thief has a passive skill that does the same, I'll have to look it up.

QUOTE(Zarcon @ May 29 2010, 01:50 PM) I think it uses 0A to line break, but if I pad with 00 before that point things break.

Why would you need to pad before the line break? You can move the line break up, just pad with 00 after the entire block of text.

I...have no idea why I didn't think of that, thanks. Seems to work okay, gotta go back and adjust my menu help text. So much padding with spaces, haha.

[EDIT]

Time for more second opinions!

???????
Tsukemonomedaru
Tsukemono Medal
...
Pickles Medal?
...
What?
...
Maybe
Tsuke Mono Medal?
Still no idea.

#insnumber#?????
????????
#insnumber#dame?jio
?gekideataeru
# Damage 1 Gekideataeru

#insnumber#????????
????????
#insnumber#shuruinobosuo
?funde?taosu
# kinds of bosses defeated
But what the heck is 2 funde? Is that time? 2 minutes maybe?
# kinds of bosses defeated under 2 minutes
I need to shorten the crap out of that if that's what it is.
...
I'm fairly confident it's under 2 minutes now.
Since it's a boss medal I can shorten it to
# kinds defeated under 2 minutes.

???????
keruberomedaru
Kerubero Medal
...
I can't make out the first word.

[EDIT]

Oh, Kerberos otherwise known as Cerberus.
Thanks thedicemaster.

[EDIT]

One more.

????????
kairyuumedaru
Kairyuu Medal

This is a boss achievement medal, the boss is the drill nosed fish thing.

 

[ferofax]

Alrighty, I was leaning towards those translations, but with a second opinion I'll commit them.
My translation is kind of unofficial to the project anyway.
Think instead of Damage Block I'll do Damage Evade since it makes a bit more sense with the % chance and classes with no shield.
Plus I'm pretty sure the Thief has a passive skill that does the same, I'll have to look it up.
again, i'm not sure if this is chance-based, so it might be a bit premature to do Damage Evade. your call though. i did notice that when it does activate, damage pops up as a red zero (0). and i don't remember seeing any MISS combat messages, so...

Time for more second opinions!

???????
Tsukemonomedaru
Tsukemono Medal
...
Pickles Medal?
...
What?
...
Maybe
Tsuke Mono Medal?
Still no idea.
lol, i'm looking at the medal description, and it does sound a lot like pickling stuff to me

although i don't know if it's included in the food stuff... ???? also means "to make an entry", so maybe it has something to do with item entries? but the requirement is only 5 (of what?), and i'm still at zero so... sorry, also clueless here, haha.

#insnumber#?????
????????
#insnumber#dame?jio
?gekideataeru 
# Damage 1 Gekideataeru

is this a quest objective? it sounds to me like this is one of those "Deal # damage in one hit" (1geki or ichigeki de ataeru, "in one hit")

#insnumber#????????
????????
#insnumber#shuruinobosuo
?funde?taosu 
# kinds of bosses defeated 
But what the heck is 2 funde? Is that time? 2 minutes maybe?
# kinds of bosses defeated under 2 minutes
I need to shorten the crap out of that if that's what it is.
...
I'm fairly confident it's under 2 minutes now.
Since it's a boss medal I can shorten it to
# kinds defeated under 2 minutes.
:D

Yep, it's pretty much what you think it is. "2 funde" is actually nifun de (2?????), which is "in 2 minutes).
maybe # type(s) defeated in 2 minutes, so that the first defeat doesn't look awkward (1 types, lol). and you don't actually need to say "under". since there's a time limit, it's fairly safe to say that most people won't assume it's literal and that you just need to do it within the time limit.

CODE

One more.

????????
kairyuumedaru
Kairyuu Medal

This is a boss achievement medal, the boss is the drill nosed fish thing.

Kairyuu sounds like Sea Dragon to me (??), although obviously that Drill Marine isn't a dragon. anyways, it's just a medal name, so they could probably name it anything. but yeah, sounds like Sea Dragon to me.


oh yeah, my medallion page looks blank, even though i've passed some of those requisites already. what gives? is it maybe the patch, or are there other requisites that i don't know about? Attack Medal requires 250 damage in one hit, but i've already got 406 damage under Best Record (below the requirement). hmm... :/

 

[Zarcon]

again, i'm not sure if this is chance-based, so it might be a bit premature to do Damage Evade. your call though. i did notice that when it does activate, damage pops up as a red zero (0). and i don't remember seeing any MISS combat messages, so...Yea, that's why I said I'd check with the Thief skills first. If the Thief has a skill that does the same then I'll name it Damage Evade.

lol, i'm looking at the medal description, and it does sound a lot like pickling stuff to me

although i don't know if it's included in the food stuff... ???? also means "to make an entry", so maybe it has something to do with item entries? but the requirement is only 5 (of what?), and i'm still at zero so... sorry, also clueless here, haha.I'm at 0 as well and there's already a cooking medal. Weird one this is.

is this a quest objective? it sounds to me like this is one of those "Deal # damage in one hit" (1geki or ichigeki de ataeru, "in one hit")This is a requirement for the Attack Medal. I thought so, but the gold medal requirement is 2500 damage so I thought it might be something else.

Yep, it's pretty much what you think it is. "2 funde" is actually nifun de (2?????), which is "in 2 minutes).
maybe # type(s) defeated in 2 minutes, so that the first defeat doesn't look awkward (1 types, lol). and you don't actually need to say "under". since there's a time limit, it's fairly safe to say that most people won't assume it's literal and that you just need to do it within the time limit.I was using "kinds" to differentiate a lot of stuff, but "types" sounds much better. Saying "under" instead of "in" still fits and fills out the box better so I'll stick with that.

QUOTE

Kairyuu sounds like Sea Dragon to me (??), although obviously that Drill Marine isn't a dragon. anyways, it's just a medal name, so they could probably name it anything. but yeah, sounds like Sea Dragon to me.

Figured as much, just thought it was a tad strange having fought the boss.

CODE

oh yeah, my medallion page looks blank, even though i've passed some of those requisites already.ÂÂwhat gives? is it maybe the patch, or are there other requisites that i don't know about? Attack Medal requires 250 damage in one hit, but i've already got 406 damage under Best Record (below the requirement). hmm... :/

You need to visit the King to get awarded. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to translate all the common script that you'd often see.
Go to your boat and select the top option each time to visit the king.

P.S. Ahaha, quote box limit...

 

[ferofax]

i know, that quote box limit annoyed me as well (which is why the code tags).

anyways, thanks for the King tip. i didn't know that. i have however confirmed that at some point, it proves useful to shuffle some sets of floors (1~5, 6~10, etc) for grinding and farming. and on that note, i just got to Ume (that granny NPC) and apparently, that Tsukekomu (????) thingy involves you giving her an item (any item, it seems), then she gives you a number of enemies you have to defeat before going back to her for the "pickled" item (which seems to be an upgrade of the item). i've tried it twice, Solid Wood gave me Miracle Wood (30 enemies) and Magic Leaf gave me Magic Drink (20 enemies). so it seems that "Pickling" here means some sort of item conversion. she pickles the items, lol.

oh yeah, i found her on the Honmarujou (???????) floors (that samurai-themed set). and yeah, that finally got me to 2 on that medal as well.

EDIT: oh yeah, good resource. japanese though. i thought maybe this could help. games.gaym.jp/DS/crotre/

EDIT2: only recently noticed these (dunno why)... Kongari in ??????? means something like "in brown" so maybe it's a brown re-skin? haven't been there though so... ??????? is Moving Sabitaro, which completely escapes me. I get "rusted furnace" from Sabitaro though, but as i haven't been there, i dunno how correct that literal translation is.????????? is actually ???, which is Limestone Cave (hmm, good thing MS-IME suggested that first.

)?finally got ??????? which is ??????, which means "Big Root". ???????? could be ????, which would be "moat of strong acid" or "Acid Canal". ???????? is a combination of "at the end" and "pool (of water)", so it could be "End Basin" or "Pool's End" or "Pool's Edge" or a combination of those. lol, i'm grasping at straws here

these things could use some context confirmation, so i'll keep note of where i can find them to see if the translated names fit.

so that's KongariHouse which could be Brown House(?)
SabitaroUgoku which could be Moving Sabitaro(?)
ShounyuuDou which is Limestone Cave (and here i thought it was a desert for all the sand

)
OokinaNekko which could be Big Root(?)
KyousanNoHori which could be Acid Canal
SundaMizuTamari which could be End Basin or whatever you wanna call something at the end that collects water.

whew, long edit.

 

[macgeek417]

Nice to see that this translation is still being worked on! Maybe tomorrow I will take the new text that has been translated and make a patch - is there anything in the Wiki that isn't in the patch?

 

[ferofax]

it's actually the other way around now... there's a whole lot in the PATCH that Zarcon has that's NOT in the wiki. somebody really has to update the wiki with what's translated so far to make the wiki useful again (so that i'll just have to check and update there as necessary instead of here).

sidenote:

somebody good with translating please translate this blog! i smell something awesome going on here, i just can't grasp it concisely enough to save my skin

http://xn--f9jhud3947e.seesaa.net/article/136114184.html

much much thanks!