Hacking Crap, easy to use channel creator

[damedus]

I gota say great program for having my favorite games right on the menu. I normaly use wiiflow but it seems theres no option to foward to wiiflow in crap. My games are on a fat32 partition that i use for uloader (just for vc/ww games cause triforce wont run injected wads and will freeze all my vc games after the clasic controler menu) so im using the only fat32 loader i have in the list.

Now is it posible to have a fat32 loader that dosent show the loader loading the game( id rather have a black screen with loading or a black screen than see the menu of the loader booting the game.

second I used to have a chanel for tales of symphonia when i used to have wbfs HD that woudnt obiusly work with fat32, I tried making 1 in crap but when i go to install the wad i keep getting install error, all the other wad chanels i made work fine and installed fine its just this 1 that wont install, could there be a specific reason to this?

 

[WiiCrazy]

ah, that simple?

EDIT:
Do i need something extra in PPC?
When i Make, it says

ld.exe: cannot find -lz
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Seems like a bad installation of devkitpro.

I gota say great program for having my favorite games right on the menu. I normaly use wiiflow but it seems theres no option to foward to wiiflow in crap. My games are on a fat32 partition that i use for uloader (just for vc/ww games cause triforce wont run injected wads and will freeze all my vc games after the clasic controler menu) so im using the only fat32 loader i have in the list.

About wiiflow, yes there is no support because wiiflow doesn't support direct game launching.

Now is it posible to have a fat32 loader that dosent show the loader loading the game( id rather have a black screen with loading or a black screen than see the menu of the loader booting the game.

Well there is one such loader, configurable usb loader. Loading screens and stuff is not a feature of Crap's loaders but the actual loaders' (in case of forwarders) Cfg. for example has an argument to turn on or off the splash screen.

QUOTE(damedus @ Aug 7 2010, 09:59 AM)

second I used to have a chanel for tales of symphonia when i used to have wbfs HD that woudnt obiusly work with fat32, I tried making 1 in crap but when i go to install the wad i keep getting install error, all the other wad chanels i made work fine and installed fine its just this 1 that wont install, could there be a specific reason to this?

That might be an issue of ciosXrev19 or above not on base 38... Try selecting a different cios when installing the channel, like hermes cios (222,223) or 36 if you have it trucha patched.

 

[damedus]

Well there is one such loader, configurable usb loader. Loading screens and stuff is not a feature of Crap's loaders but the actual loaders' (in case of forwarders) Cfg. for example has an argument to turn on or off the splash screen.


That might be an issue of ciosXrev19 or above not on base 38... Try selecting a different cios when installing the channel, like hermes cios (222,223) or 36 if you have it trucha patched.

so I can use CFG usb loader to run fat32 .wbfs files (this is how i have my games for wiiflow) by simply having CFG Usb Loader on my hardrive (i supose USB0:apps/CFG Usb Loader/boot.dol and crating chanels in crap using its fowarder? and I just set the 222iosr5(so my fat32 hd games work (in wiiflow using 249rev17 or 250 rev 20 gives a usb error only 222 works)) in the appitself aswell as the no spash screen and it should load the chanel crap made with no spash screen and just hop from chanel>black load screen>wii game?

ill try installing it with 222rev5, before i coudnt install or mount my usb hd on wad manager 1.4 or 1.5 so i had to get 1.7 but when i was using 1.4 and 1.5 249 would give me that error on all and 222 would work, but in 1.7 24 isnt giving me errors just with this chanel only rest installed via 249 ill give it a go in any case

 

[WiiCrazy]

Well there is one such loader, configurable usb loader. Loading screens and stuff is not a feature of Crap's loaders but the actual loaders' (in case of forwarders) Cfg. for example has an argument to turn on or off the splash screen.


That might be an issue of ciosXrev19 or above not on base 38... Try selecting a different cios when installing the channel, like hermes cios (222,223) or 36 if you have it trucha patched.


so I can use CFG usb loader to run fat32 .wbfs files (this is how i have my games for wiiflow) by simply having CFG Usb Loader on my hardrive (i supose USB0:apps/CFG Usb Loader/boot.dol and crating chanels in crap using its fowarder? and I just set the 222iosr5(so my fat32 hd games work (in wiiflow using 249rev17 or 250 rev 20 gives a usb error only 222 works)) in the appitself aswell as the no spash screen and it should load the chanel crap made with no spash screen and just hop from chanel>black load screen>wii game?

ill try installing it with 222rev5, before i coudnt install or mount my usb hd on wad manager 1.4 or 1.5 so i had to get 1.7 but when i was using 1.4 and 1.5 249 would give me that error on all and 222 would work, but in 1.7 24 isnt giving me errors just with this chanel only rest installed via 249 ill give it a go in any case


Yes you can use Cfg with Fat32,
Cfg is not compatible with 222 rev5 afaik. You need to install either ciosXrev19 (or rev20) or Hermes v4 to use your FAT32 drive.

As for the paths, you can use one from below either on your sd card or on your FAT32 formatted HDD.

CODE

/apps/usbloader/boot.dol
/apps/usbloader_cfg/boot.dol
/apps/usb_loader/boot.dol
/apps/usb-loader/boot.dol

ps : In case of storing the loader on fat32 formatted usb hdd you need to tweak your config.txt, device setting should be usb..
like this :
device=usb

 

[damedus]

Yes you can use Cfg with Fat32,
Cfg is not compatible with 222 rev5 afaik. You need to install either ciosXrev19 (or rev20) or Hermes v4 to use your FAT32 drive.

As for the paths, you can use one from below either on your sd card or on your FAT32 formatted HDD.

/apps/usbloader/boot.dol
/apps/usbloader_cfg/boot.dol
/apps/usb_loader/boot.dol
/apps/usb-loader/boot.dol

ps : In case of storing the loader on fat32 formatted usb hdd you need to tweak your config.txt, device setting should be usb..
like this :
device=usb

Ok good i have rev 20 on 250 and rev 17 on249 neither of them would launch games on wiiflow (i get a USB:-1 error and get sent back to wiiflow) thats why i asked for 222 as wiiflow was using it flawlessly I was thinking rev 17 and 20 had no fat32 usb suport.

on the other problem i tried using all ciosx and hermes i have and under 1.4 and 1.5 all return usbhd not found under 1.7 only 249 and 250 fnd the hd and both give the installing ticket error so i got my sd card out and tried installing it from sd but same issue 1.4,1.5 and 1.7 using all cios all same ticket error. only happens when i try to create a chanel for tales of symphonia using fatloader im gona make one using cfg loader and see if it will install it if it does ill just swap all my chanels to cfg loader (I kinda wana get rid of SD use cause i have my boot2 bootmi in there and if i have it plugged in i have to go all the way into the wii to push reset and without it on it loads right into sismenu 4.2, i just have bootmi for nand backup it kinda anoys me when it boots directly to it without having to do anything on it.) Im remodeling my homethater room and having the wii on usb only mode would be awsome means i can hide the wii itself and turn it on from my wiimotes.

It seems my wii had kept part of the info from the old wad i was able to unistall the wad (even tho it was already uninstalled) with a error at the contents delete but the title.dat gave a Ok! then i just installed the newly created cfg-no intro chan i made for it and its working goes as i wanted chanel>black screen>wii game seems like it takes 5 or 6 secs more than with the fat loader but it could be since u dont see any loaders its just an sence thing dosent bother me it roughly takes 22 secs from runing the chan to the wii game screen on a plus side the new chanels made take 7 blocks oposed to the 16 it took before in the long run it adds to quite a few blocks saved.

Note: im using uloader for my WW/VC is there ANY posible way crap can make a chanel for those (for example i could make a iso to foward ww games from wiiflow to triforce, not sure if i can make iso fowarders for usb loaders for uloader ww/vc as it uses its own method of installing them. Just wondering if its posible to make a iso fowarder for cfgloader to run uloader intalled ww games and then use crap to make a chanel that boots cfgloader runing that iso fowarder. Hope you can understand what i want to acomplish, I just want to have my wii wares on the wii chanels as normal but instead of taking 200 to 900 each taking 7 blocks each and having the actual game on my fat 32 drive wich has them installed via uloader(triforce was giving me black screens on all my vc games ww games ran fine tho and also dint like injected games) altho if its posible to use crap to make a chan of a iso fowarder in cgf loader i can just make iso fowarders for triforce installed ww games and just go old fashioned and run uloader for VC ones.

 

[hetfield]

i use both CFG-249 and CFG-222 on NTFS and WBFS partition with ios249rev19[57] installed.

No problems what-so-ever, so fat32 will work fine as well

The existing CFG forwarders also work fine, for that there are 2 versions, 1 for sd and 1 for usb.
They simply forward to sd:\apps\usbloader_cfg or usb:\apps\usbloader_cfg

 

[jelmew]

Another question. What is the difference between configurable forwarder or conf. usb. loader direct?

 

[infernodemon2005]

i'm pretty sure this may have been already asked, but when using the cfg fowarder does crap use your existing cfg settings from config.txt and the global options for games such as occarina cheats or do I have to manually add those as extra paramiters?

 

[XFlak]

the config forwarder will use w/e is in your config.txt unless you add extra parameters in CRAP to over-ride some or all of the config.txt settings

 

[infernodemon2005]

thanks for clearing that up for me

 

[jonceramic]

Sorry if this has been covered but is there a MAC OS X version / alternative?

A Mono version is planned yet I haven't started yet... dunno if alternatives exist though.

Just for grins, I tried in Mono in MacOSX. CrazyInstaller mostly seems to work (I have no idea what it's for, though! lol).

But, Crap.exe does not.

I tried on VMWare Fusion running Windows XP. I've installed both .Net 2 and 4. I have the file that supposed to be in the Shared folder. Yet, I keep getting this error.

"This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem."

Any idea WiiCrazy or anyone else why it won't work? (I apologize - I did not read all 5x pages to see if this was a common issue.)

Thanks,

Jon

 

[jonceramic]

Sorry if this has been covered but is there a MAC OS X version / alternative?

A Mono version is planned yet I haven't started yet... dunno if alternatives exist though.

Just for grins, I tried in Mono in MacOSX. CrazyInstaller mostly seems to work (I have no idea what it's for, though! lol).

But, Crap.exe does not.

I tried on VMWare Fusion running Windows XP. I've installed both .Net 2 and 4. I have the file that supposed to be in the Shared folder. Yet, I keep getting this error.

"This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem."

Any idea WiiCrazy or anyone else why it won't work? (I apologize - I did not read all 5x pages to see if this was a common issue.)

Thanks,

Jon

It looks like I may have found it here:
http://gbatemp.net/t151174-crap-easy-to-us...tor?&st=120

(Post 134 by WiiCrazy)

Hope to try later!

 

[Fahennessy]

Whenever I try running crap.exe it says:

"The program can't start because libconfig++.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem."

I can't find libconfig++.dll anywhere. The only thing I could find are linux files.

edit: I extracted the rar file again and it's working now. Not entirely sure what happened the first time.

 

[r-win]

I gota say great program for having my favorite games right on the menu. I normaly use wiiflow but it seems theres no option to foward to wiiflow in crap. My games are on a fat32 partition that i use for uloader (just for vc/ww games cause triforce wont run injected wads and will freeze all my vc games after the clasic controler menu) so im using the only fat32 loader i have in the list.

About wiiflow, yes there is no support because wiiflow doesn't support direct game launching.

Since wiiflow rev148 (just committed) it is possible to use it as forwarder. Passing a gameid as argument will launch the game without any interface (except for the Please wait message). You can specify which ios to use by adding ios=. Without this argument, the default ios will be used, or the ios configured for this game.

When using this feature, all configuration settings and game specific settings will be used. So patches, gamehooks, etc. will all be in effect. Wiiflow will also scan all your partitions for the game, in case the game is not on your default partition. The only setting that is ignored is the "return to" setting.

 

[WiiCrazy]

I gota say great program for having my favorite games right on the menu. I normaly use wiiflow but it seems theres no option to foward to wiiflow in crap. My games are on a fat32 partition that i use for uloader (just for vc/ww games cause triforce wont run injected wads and will freeze all my vc games after the clasic controler menu) so im using the only fat32 loader i have in the list.

About wiiflow, yes there is no support because wiiflow doesn't support direct game launching.

Since wiiflow rev148 (just committed) it is possible to use it as forwarder. Passing a gameid as argument will launch the game without any interface (except for the Please wait message). You can specify which ios to use by adding ios=. Without this argument, the default ios will be used, or the ios configured for this game.

When using this feature, all configuration settings and game specific settings will be used. So patches, gamehooks, etc. will all be in effect. Wiiflow will also scan all your partitions for the game, in case the game is not on your default partition. The only setting that is ignored is the "return to" setting.

Vaow, that's great news, now we have something to offer for wiiflow users too. Now I'm in the process of adding support for it as a forwarder in Crap. Thanks!

@r-win : Could you provide me a precompiled dol with that latest commit so I can test the forwarder? (It might be a pain in the neck to create the dev env. for me)

 

[MrGreg]

Thanks for adding direct game loading r-win! I asked Miigotu for this a while back and he said that it would not require much change but was not the direction of Wiiflow. Now that Wiiflow has been changed to support this, do you not have to provide WiiCrazy with a forwarder dol? Mugotu told me that the forwarder dol that the Wiiflow developers use would do the job with minimal changes. WiiCrazy is this not what you would need to implement this in Crap? Thanks guys...

 

[WiiCrazy]

@MrGreg : Well forwarder is a forwarder, yes official wiiflow forwarder can be tweaked to make it work... but I already have one so I prefer bundling my forwarder since it's easier for me to do it... Though either way it's for the end user, it doesn't matter much...

Just now I need a precompiled dol with the latest feature in to test the forwarder I just built.

ps: Anyway, I'll try it tomorrow... just in case anyone of you grabs the latest wiiflow build then you can test the forwarder & crap config I uploaded here : Wiiflow & uLoader forwarder . Just extract it over to your existing Crap 3.3b installation and get the latest build of wiiflow ready on your sd card or on your usb device. (forwarder seeks wiiflow in /apps/wiiflow/boot.dol)

 

[MrGreg]

Hi WiiCrazy,

Thanks for the speedy reply. You can get the latest from either of these FTP sites...

ftp://wiiflow:[email protected]/
ftp://Themes:[email protected]:61221/

Just go to the Wiiflow Latest Rev folder and get the ios flavor that you want.

 

[WiiCrazy]

Hi WiiCrazy,

Thanks for the speedy reply. You can get the latest from either of these FTP sites...

ftp://wiiflow:[email protected]/
ftp://Themes:[email protected]:61221/

Just go to the Wiiflow Latest Rev folder and get the ios flavor that you want.

Thanks for the info! I'll test it..

Oops, what's the standard folders for Wiiflow? Is it /apps/wiiflow or one differentiates between wiiflow_222 & wiiflow_249?

 

[MrGreg]

The standard folders for Wiiflow is apps/Wiiflow. It does not matter which ios flavor that you run...