Covid-19 vaccine

[Lacius]

Rioting and looting over the death of a drug addict who OD is wrong, but when push comes to shove when a government tries to act tyrannical and tries to either become a communist (or Fascist) nation and try to disregard basic human rights, tensions will predictably flare and sometimes it'll comes to blows if the situation calls for it.

Take that as you will I just thought it was interesting what's going on in France right now, it could spread to the US, but who knows.

• "Systemic police violence against people of color = no permissable vandalism in response"
• "Availability of a voluntary vaccine, in the middle of a deadly pandemic, that has been demonstrated to be safe and effective = permissable vandalism in response"

Your priorities are clear.

And for the record, I'm not arguing vandalism is permissible in either case.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

• "Systemic police violence against people of color = no permissable vandalism in response"
• "Availability of a voluntary vaccine, in the middle of a deadly pandemic, that has been demonstrated to be safe and effective = permissable vandalism in response"

Your priorities are clear.

And for the record, I'm not arguing vandalism is permissible in either case.

Ok so just twist what I said and turn it into a way to make it look like I'm some evil and diabolical madman and you're the righteous one in your own little world, gotcha.

 

[Lacius]

Ok so just twist what I said and turn it into a way to make it look like I'm some evil and diabolical madman and you're the righteous one in your own little world, gotcha.

I didn't twist anything. You condemned vandalism that occurred during BLM protests, but you rationalized vandalism by anti-vaxxers in France.

You also said to "take it as I will." I guess you've changed your mind.

 

[ghjfdtg]

As i understand it france wants to force it but only for nurses and similar jobs. On one side i can understand it but on the other it only fuels the anti-vax fire.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

I didn't twist anything. You condemned vandalism that occurred during BLM protests, but you rationalized vandalism by anti-vaxxers in France.

You also said to "take it as I will." I guess you've changed your mind.

I know. I can still point out you have a twisted mind though.

 

[Lacius]

As i understand it france wants to force it but only for nurses and similar jobs. On one side i can understand it but on the other it only fuels the anti-vax fire.

As I understand it, various things require getting vaccinated (and rightfully so), but nobody is being forced to get vaccinated, especially "by threat of force."

I know. I can still point out you have a twisted mind though.

1. Do you have any evidence of that?
2. People who are on the right side of an argument generally don't need to resort to personal attacks. Next time, instead of saying "you have a twisted mind," say something like, "Your position is twisted, here is why, and here is evidence backing up my claim."

 

[ghjfdtg]

As I understand it, various things require getting vaccinated (and rightfully so), but nobody is being forced to get vaccinated, especially "by threat of force."

Yes, but people who refuse get fired basically.

 

[Lacius]

Yes, but people who refuse get fired basically.

Specifically with regard to healthcare positions, like in hospitals or nursing homes, that may be appropriate.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

As I understand it, various things require getting vaccinated (and rightfully so), but nobody is being forced to get vaccinated, especially "by threat of force."

1. Do you have any evidence of that?
2. People who are on the right side of an argument generally don't need to resort to personal attacks. Next time, instead of saying "you have a twisted mind," say something like, "Your position is twisted, here is why, and here is evidence backing up my claim."

I just calls it how I sees it, like based on your previous posts here on this site.

 

[Lacius]

I just calls it how I sees it, like based on your previous posts here on this site.

You need to actually explain how I was wrong if you're going to argue I was wrong. Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

With mask mandates and lockdowns being the likelihood again in the near future, the only people remaining to blame are the unvaccinated. The vaccinated are not the ones continuing to spread this, so who's left to blame? Doesn't take a genius. So when we're all forced to sit the fuck at home again and do nothing for god knows how fucking long this time... you anti-vaxxers can blame YOURSELVES. Thanks. Thanks tons, for the lockdowns becoming a very real possibility again. Because of your own ignorance and selfishness, we're all going to suffer. AGAIN. Thanks. Clap clap.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

With mask mandates and lockdowns being the likelihood again in the near future, the only people remaining to blame are the unvaccinated. The vaccinated are not the ones continuing to spread this, so who's left to blame? Doesn't take a genius. So when we're all forced to sit the fuck at home again and do nothing for god knows how fucking long this time... you anti-vaxxers can blame YOURSELVES. Thanks. Thanks tons, for the lockdowns becoming a very real possibility again. Because of your own ignorance and selfishness, we're all going to suffer. AGAIN. Thanks. Clap clap.

Um.....these people got vaccinated, got covid, and are spreading the virus it seems. So, do we blame them still even though they got the shots?

 

[Dakitten]

Um.....these people got vaccinated, got covid, and are spreading the virus it seems. So, do we blame them still even though they got the shots?

Does efficacy mean anything to you? Vaccinated folks can still get the virus, but they're both less likely to suffer severe symptoms and less likely to catch it. The fewer people who get it, the fewer vectors there are to continue spreading it. With enough people vaccinated, the virus can ideally die off entirely, before it mutates any further and surpasses efforts to curtail it. MAGIK!

... No but seriously, please try thinking about these things for like, five minutes before you post garbage. Kthnx.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Does efficacy mean anything to you? Vaccinated folks can still get the virus, but they're both less likely to suffer severe symptoms and less likely to catch it. The fewer people who get it, the fewer vectors there are to continue spreading it. With enough people vaccinated, the virus can ideally die off entirely, before it mutates any further and surpasses efforts to curtail it. MAGIK!

... No but seriously, please try thinking about these things for like, five minutes before you post garbage. Kthnx.

But people treat the vaccine as the cure all solution,and get mad when people don't take it since they think it can prevent the virus, which it can to a degree, but you can still get it and...you see how this is confusing. You see why some may not take this vaccine with all the god damn mental gymnastics?

Some people will choose not to get the vaccine. Deal with it. Get over it.

 

[Dakitten]

But people treat the vaccine as the cure all solution,and get mad when people don't take it since they think it can prevent the virus, which it can to a degree, but you can still get it and...you see how this is confusing. You see why some may not take this vaccine with all the god damn mental gymnastics?

Some people will choose not to get the vaccine. Deal with it. Get over it.

The point, ironically, is to get over it, and those who don't get the vaccine are the problem helping to prevent it. Nobody says the vaccine is a miracle cure-all for the situation, but it can be the tool to counter it if everyone got on board. No vaccine is 100% effective and without side effects, but it is obviously the best option going forward.

Everyone who doesn't get it, barring a preexisting medical condition or complication, is endangering everyone else and should be kept away from social functions until the pandemic is handled. Them's the facts. Deal with it. By vaccinating and continuing to wear masks.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

The point, ironically, is to get over it, and those who don't get the vaccine are the problem helping to prevent it. Nobody says the vaccine is a miracle cure-all for the situation, but it can be the tool to counter it if everyone got on board. No vaccine is 100% effective and without side effects, but it is obviously the best option going forward.

Everyone who doesn't get it, barring a preexisting medical condition or complication, is endangering everyone else and should be kept away from social functions until the pandemic is handled. Them's the facts. Deal with it. By vaccinating and continuing to wear masks.

Nope. Don't have to cuz you don't tell me or others what to do :3

 

[Dakitten]

Nope. Don't have to cuz you don't tell me or others what to do :3

Sure, you and others sadly have that right, but don't cry if folk don't want you nearby as a result. You can roll in medical sewage, too, but the point is that you shouldn't if you care about your own health or the health of others.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Sure, you and others sadly have that right, but don't cry if folk don't want you nearby as a result. You can roll in medical sewage, too, but the point is that you shouldn't if you care about your own health or the health of others.

I'm pretty sure I can find like minded people and friends just fine thanks.

 

[Dakitten]

I'm pretty sure I can find like minded people and friends just fine thanks.

I mean, yeah, there's groups for anything. Doesn't make them smart, sensible, or safe... And it's only welcoming until somebody catches a clue~

 

[Xzi]

You can roll in medical sewage

They totally would, too. All you have to do is convince them it would "pwn the libs" somehow, which wouldn't be hard. These are the same people that fall for the 'dihydrogen monoxide' prank every year.