Quietly following on the heels of the injunction ruling against Yuzu emulator that resulted in its removal and ceased development, popular Nintendo 3DS emulator Citra is following suit. Yuzu's parent company, Tropic Haze LLC, is also the owner of the development team for Citra 3DS emulator, and because of the recent ruling, Citra has also met the same fate. As of current writing, Citra has been removed from download on its official website, and the Citra GitHub repository has been taken down as well.

An official statement from Bunnei, a representative for both Citra and Yuzu, was posted on the Discord channel for Yuzu, saying that they never intended to allow piracy to impact Nintendo, and that playing games on "unauthorized hardware" is harmful, so development on both emulators will cease as of today. Citra's Discord server has also locked itself down, following the announcement.

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[Ligeia]

God this generation is so entitled. Mad because Nintendo shut down an emulator, for a device that's still being sold.

I hear people moan about game preservation. Want to preserve all these games? Go out and f*cking by them.

This emulator was used for 99.9% to pirate stuff, and they were making money from it.

But the games run horrible on the Switch? Please, I played Superman 64 back in the day, sure you can survive a few drops in frames.

Prices are too high? Those on Ps5 or even higher, be glad.

Playing games isn't a fundamental right, so don't act like it's one. You take the games that are available as they are. Don't like it? Move on.


Honestly, what's wrong with your brain if you even twist it like Nintendo is the bad guy in this situation?

Oh yeah, and before people say I'm sucking up to a company and all those fifth grade insults: I haven't bought a Nintendo game in years. I also used emulation or used my hacked switch. So yeah, too bad the emulator is gone, but I'm not putting blame where it doesn't belong.

Gosh, so much corporate ass-licking in one single post... Once again I don't wanna write an essay but just ask yourself where that "entitlement" comes from, and maybe you'll have a clue.

 

[Tri-Z]

Bummer, I hoped Yuzu developers would fight all way to US Supreme Court to have their judges to issue the ruling on emulators.

Nintendo's attack on emulators could lead to severe consequence, such as dangerous cyberattack on all of Nintendo's infrastructure like happened to Sony in 2011.

I’m sure if Nintendo lost if they had to pay back lawyer and court costs to who they went after then maybe more would fight back if had a good chance to win. Cause if Nintendo doesn’t have to cover those costs then it’s a win for them no matter what especially with them having more funds at their disposal. I’m sure they maybe they can use it as a tax write off too. I bet with that princess peach game coming out soon has to do with Nintendo’s timing on attacking Yuzu.

 

[BeniBel]

Gosh, so much corporate ass-licking in one single post... Once again I don't wanna write an essay but just ask yourself where that "entitlement" comes from, and maybe you'll have a clue.

Sweet summer child. The fact that you think that is corporate ass-licking says a lot about your mindset. Get a grip on reality. Don't like Nintendo? Don't use their products, don't even pirate them.

 

[Ilikegbastuff]

Dang, I was really hoping to give citra a try one of these days, but I guess I won't be able to.

 

[BeniBel]

Dang, I was really hoping to give citra a try one of these days, but I guess I won't be able to.

You can still find it, just google it. Most likely a fork will be created from it.

 

[Ligeia]

Dang, I was really hoping to give citra a try one of these days, but I guess I won't be able to.

I think you'll still be able to find it quite easily.

 

[Naendow]

Dang, I was really hoping to give citra a try one of these days, but I guess I won't be able to.

It is not like you can find the source code and even compiled binaries pretty much everywhere now.

 

[linuxares]

It is not like you can find the source code and even compiled binaries pretty much everywhere now.

That's true.

But Citra is dead. Panda3DS is my new friend.

 

[Mudb0y]

Honestly, what's wrong with your brain if you even twist it like Nintendo is the bad guy in this situation?
but I'm not putting blame where it doesn't belong.

Thing is, sure, lots of people might've used it for piracy, but it's not like the emulator gave you all the decryption keys you needed and a rom downloader built-in out of the box, along with saying "Oh yeah he's this leaked unreleased version of TOTK that someone leaked and you can just click download in our emulator to play it!" I feel like many people, including me, take issue with how Nintendo used piracy as an argument where it really doesn't apply. It's like Rockstar suing Bill Gates because he created Windows, a platform on which someone else released a keygen for GTA V that people use to pirate their game. It's an idiotic argument and I hate the fact it worked.

 

[retrospect]

Wasn't the last update to Citra around 6 years ago?

If so it doesn't seem like this news is going to have any effect on anything, except maybe giving someone else the idea to pick up development.

 

[Mudb0y]

Wasn't the last update to Citra around 6 years ago?

If so it doesn't seem like this news is going to have any effect on anything, except maybe giving someone else the idea to pick up development.

Nope, I have a nightly build from literally 2 days ago installed currently.

 

[BeniBel]

Thing is, sure, lots of people might've used it for piracy, but it's not like the emulator gave you all the decryption keys you needed and a rom downloader built-in out of the box, along with saying "Oh yeah he's this leaked unreleased version of TOTK that someone leaked and you can just click download in our emulator to play it!" I feel like many people, including me, take issue with how Nintendo used piracy as an argument where it really doesn't apply. It's like Rockstar suing Bill Gates because he created Windows, a platform on which someone else released a keygen for GTA V that people use to pirate their game. It's an idiotic argument and I hate the fact it worked.

The difference is, Windows can be used for plenty of different things, while an emulator only has the purpose of mimicking a device. They can say Yuzu wasn't created for piracy and such, but even the creators know that that's exactly what it was created for.

One could argue you could create your own backups, but that's the thing: that also isn't legal. Game licences do not allow creating copies.

But what was the final nail in the coffin, the reason why Nintendo acted: they made a profit on it all.

 

[wartutor]

This is the worst thing I've seen all day. My parents broke my 3DS because I was being impatient on Wii WADs and wanted to take my 3ds to my car the other day and it led to my parents breaking my 3DS. I'm so mad right now. Here's the story:

This story is fucking hilarious. You would be sleeping in a bare room without anything and no privilages for a long time if you was my child. Not to mention the ass whipping you would of got on the spot. Self entitled little brat. Grow up.

 

[Mudb0y]

The difference is, Windows can be used for plenty of different things, while an emulator only has the purpose of mimicking a device. They can say Yuzu wasn't created for piracy and such, but even the creators know that that's exactly what it was created for.

One could argue you could create your own backups, but that's the thing: that also isn't legal. Game licences do not allow creating copies.

But what was the final nail in the coffin, the reason why Nintendo acted: they made a profit on it all.

As far as I'm aware though it is actually legal to make backups, you just can't distribute them, but you can make them for your own personal use, same as with any other media.

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This story is fucking hilarious. You would be sleeping in a bare room without anything and no privilages for a long time if you was my child. Not to mention the ass whipping you would of got on the spot. Self entitled little brat. Grow up.

TBH I find it hard to take this seriously, it looks like a troll pasta through and through. If it was actually serious though, I've been friends with kids like this and honestly it's rarely the kids fault, it's just that if you raize your children with no trust you build between your self and the child, what the fuck do you expect to happen later. In most cases like this, I would blame the parents, especially because there was no grounds for smashing that 3DS at all. Sure, take it away if you must, but smashing it was unnecessary.

 

[Deleted member 466238]

God this generation is so entitled. Mad because Nintendo shut down an emulator, for a device that's still being sold.

I'm mad and more concerned about the 3DS emulator shutting down, personally.

 

[J-Will]

This story is fucking hilarious. You would be sleeping in a bare room without anything and no privilages for a long time if you was my child. Not to mention the ass whipping you would of got on the spot. Self entitled little brat. Grow up.

I ain't a brat. I'm just trying to get my behavior right without this 3DS. That's all. Also I'm getting a Japanese Black 3DS model this week too if I manage to do well in school.

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I'm mad and more concerned about the 3DS emulator shutting down, personally.

Yeah, very sad that Nintendo had to shutdown Citra even though Nintendo doesn't care about the 3DS anymore.

 

[BeniBel]

As far as I'm aware though it is actually legal to make backups, you just can't distribute them, but you can make them for your own personal use, same as with any other media.

It's one of those things people believe, but isn't really true. Without going too much in detail: the law often quoted for creating backups applies to computer software, not video games. That law also stated that you can create a backup for archival purposes, but not one that you can use however you please. I also believe, though not sure, that backups have to be created in the same way (so disc to disc, not disc to hdd). And offcourse, modifying them (cracking copy protection) is not covered by that law.

But more important: when you buy a game, you actually buy just the disk/cartridge and a license to use it. Many games often show a whole list to which you have to agree on, before playing, or has links to the user agreement. Those agreements often state that you cannot create copies/backups.

Offcourse, laws are different at some places, but in general it's safe to asume you are in fact not allowed to create a backup.

 

[Mudb0y]

It's one of those things people believe, but isn't really true. Without going too much in detail: the law often quoted for creating backups applies to computer software, not video games. That law also stated that you can create a backup for archival purposes, but not one that you can use however you please. I also believe, though not sure, that backups have to be created in the same way (so disc to disc, not disc to hdd). And offcourse, modifying them (cracking copy protection) is not covered by that law.

But more important: when you buy a game, you actually buy just the disk/cartridge and a license to use it. Many games often show a whole list to which you have to agree on, before playing, or has links to the user agreement. Those agreements often state that you cannot create copies/backups.

Offcourse, laws are different at some places, but in general it's safe to asume you are in fact not allowed to create a backup.

That's fair, I'm not really knowledgeable on this so just quoting what I've heard, but agreeing to the TOS is a fair point, often these sort of terms will put a shit ton of stuff you can't do with whatever product that you won't even look at because you'll just hit agree. I don't necessarily agree with this but perhaps it is how it works in terms of the law.

 

[Marc_LFD]

Ah yes, I must apologize, I'm no hero, It takes a whole lot of courage to play games for free and defy the company that makes them.
In the name of preservation, of course

You're entitled to defend Nintendo all you want, but emulation is ultimately how we'll be able to play old games because the consoles or cartridges/discs will eventually rot.

Besides, emulation has the bonus feature of making improvements to the picture quality whereas the original console you'll get that composite picture quality.

I grew up in the 90's though I'll tell you I don't want to play old games with blurry video quality. Just no.

 

[J-Will]

Luckily I still have Citra installed on my computer (Both Canary and Nightly) So my 3DS emulation is not done for me yet.